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    New here, question about shared colocation

    I'm new here and i'm wondering is it normal to share colocation space of a full or 1/2 rack at Tier 1 providers?

    I'm trying to find similar posts but no luck, any advise?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalTransit View Post
    I'm new here and i'm wondering is it normal to share colocation space of a full or 1/2 rack at Tier 1 providers?

    I'm trying to find similar posts but no luck, any advise?

    Thanks
    Most people don't "share" rack space, because it doesn't often work out. People often sublet rack space, aka rent it out however.

    Having said that, a tier1 facility by definition he bottom rung on the ladder, just a step up from jamming a server in a closet somewhere.

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    Welcome,

    Are you talking about sharing your 1/2 or full cabinet? Or do you mean that the colo provider puts you in a cabinet and you share the space?

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    Sublet

    Yes, i was referring to subletting.

    I have space that i'm not using and considering to sublet to someone responsible. Have you seen this practice often?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalTransit View Post
    Yes, i was referring to subletting.

    I have space that i'm not using and considering to sublet to someone responsible. Have you seen this practice often?
    Sure colo's resell space all the time, it's not unusual.

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    Yes, I would say reselling is a common practice. I work for a full tier-4 colo company and a number of our customers rent rack space from us and turn around and resell.

    Sharing rack space seems to be going by the wayside. It's cheaper than private space but if you don't need much, it seems consumers go for the private locking 1/8 cabs or go virtual.

    We have one shared row of cabinets in one of our colos and it may as well be private full cabinets. They all have only one or 2 customers in them.

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    sublet

    This is how much i know, thinking Tier 1 is the best.

    Now i know I'm at tier 4 data center.

    Thanks for all the help, i got 1 more crucial question: How do i find a customer? :-)

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    Take this with a grain of salt because it will sound a lot easier than it is. I would start looking for tech groups based in your area and check out some of their events.

    I think one reason people will use their own hardware with private providers is their sensitive data is less accessible. While it may be easier to set up shop with Amazon Web Services (AWS), if you go with colo reseller then the access to your gear/data is limited to a small tech team or yourself most likey.

    You can also always watch for people complaining about their current providers on this forum and offer solutions to them haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalTransit View Post
    This is how much i know, thinking Tier 1 is the best.

    Now i know I'm at tier 4 data center.

    Thanks for all the help, i got 1 more crucial question: How do i find a customer? :-)
    Just wondering, what public Tier 4 data center? There aren't all that many out there, so I'm interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarlZimmer View Post
    Just wondering, what public Tier 4 data center? There aren't all that many out there, so I'm interested.

    +1

    This is the list of Uptime Institute certified DC's

    http://uptimeinstitute.com/TierCerti...n/certMaps.php

    I agree you can operate at Tier 4 without having UTI certify you, but unless you understand the differences and have seen it operationally you shouldn't accept you're in a Tier IV facility.
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    IE

    My data center is not on the list, I'm at digital realty in el segundo. I guess I was wrong about the Tier 4 but then again not many places are. I thought every DC needs to be some tier, but not according to this map.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalTransit View Post
    My data center is not on the list, I'm at digital realty in el segundo. I guess I was wrong about the Tier 4 but then again not many places are. I thought every DC needs to be some tier, but not according to this map.
    Every data center would comply with a Tier, the standards are standards. That map just shows ones that have been certified at a certain level. The thing is, with Tier 4, that is a VERY expensive build, so the added cost to get it certified should be minor, especially considering how big of a selling point that is. if it isn't certified, it then probably isn't Tier 4.

    Now, I also don't understand the infatuation with Tier 4, a Tier 3 facility is good enough for most large corporations, so I don't get why much smaller businesses feel Tier 3 isn't enough. Tier 3 is much more common, much less expensive, and 99% of users will be good with a Tier 3 facility. Even then, Tier 2 provides most of the basics someone is looking for and is probably fine for 80%+ of the market. That is partly why we have a facility at each (though not audited) 350 E Cermak at Tier 3 and 725 S Wells at Tier 2. Tier 2 is cheaper and works better for most people, but there are enough that just need to be at that higher tier.
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    you're at digital in el segundo? i'm at digital in downtown! It surprises me you're not full tier-4. i thought everything with their branding would be. what's you're foot print there?

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