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    Migrating from Siteground, need a good place for my magento site/other magento sites

    Hi all,

    Been browsing your forums all day and decided I should express my unique situation and see what happens. I am not the "technical guy" of my company but I do manage the projects and am relatively informed. Server stuff is a bit over my head. We've been having trouble with SiteGround, mainly because A) My boss doesn't want to work with a company that isn't American and B) His e-mail has been absolute flooded with spam since we switched over to them, which was a hassle in itself.

    Their tutorials are outdated as well, and we all feel that we should be leaving them behind, despite others' good experiences with them. And our transactions/second performance on the Magento measuring metric was abysmal.

    Now, with multiple projects needing to pause in anticipation of a migration, I am faced with finding our new host... But I also am anticipating that we grow the main website into 4-5 websites by year's end. I.E., same inventory, different storefront, different domain name. We have a web developer who should be qualified to deal with the various hurdles in accomplishing that, but I need to be sure our new host can provide us with the necessary space, uptime, bandwidth, etc.

    So, in essence: Who is the best host for Magento websites? My short list thus far is SimpleHelix and FutureHosting, with Aspiration or possibly Arvixe as back-up. Do you think we should do VPS? I'm just hoping some experts can weigh in, as our developer has a lot on his plate, and is also not based in the USA, so my boss won't weigh his opinion very heavily.

    Thanks in advance.

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    You could probably get away with a shared web hosting environment for your websites even with 4-5 domains. I mean you could look into a VPS, but I think you should find a good host which there are many that you can check in the review section of WHT and they would be able to look at your current configuration and tell you what would work best.

    Let us know what you decide, but I recommend checking the reviews here for a good and reliable web host. Always chat with them before sign up to make sure they are what you are looking for.

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    Wise choice ^ ^

    My recommendation is a Fully Managed VPS from WiredTree. Why a VPS and not shared hosting? Well Magento is very resource hungry, and a VPS will make the fat ecommerce (Magento) happy with all the candy and pizza (resources).



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    Quote Originally Posted by HRR1963 View Post
    My recommendation is a Fully Managed VPS from WiredTree. Why a VPS and not shared hosting? Well Magento is very resource hungry, and a VPS will make the fat ecommerce (Magento) happy with all the candy and pizza (resources).
    I agree with this. A VPS would be the best option, since Magento is resource hungry. A shared host could suit for a little while, but when you add the additional web sites and they start getting traffic, you would probably be kicked off by your host, resulting in another pause in productivity with the migration.

    If you're not interested in that, maybe look into a semi-dedicated plan? It's similar to a shared environment, but with less sites on the server and higher CPU/RAM allocations. This is probably the most ideal solution for you, with less stress involved.

    Best of luck with your search!
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    Magento is a resource hog.

    - VPS in one option.
    - But semi-dedicated/enterprise shared hosting is another!

    Stablehost and MDDHosting have $20-25 monthly plans that are like shared accounts on steroids. Those have the higher resources needed by e-commerce sites such as Magento.

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    Thank you for considering us for your Magento Hosting needs.

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    Personally I would not suggest you to go with a VPS for Magento unless it is a high-spec VPS as Magento is a resource hog and a small to medium VPS may not be able to perform as good as a web hosting account which is optimized for Magento.

    Besides that, Magento is a very complex application which most hosting providers are unfamiliar with so you may want to look for a provider who understands the ins and outs of Magento and can provide assistance when you face any issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrison914 View Post
    You could probably get away with a shared web hosting environment for your websites even with 4-5 domains. I mean you could look into a VPS, but I think you should find a good host which there are many that you can check in the review section of WHT and they would be able to look at your current configuration and tell you what would work best.

    Let us know what you decide, but I recommend checking the reviews here for a good and reliable web host. Always chat with them before sign up to make sure they are what you are looking for.

    Let us know if you have any other questions.
    Can you link me to the review section? I've been poking around and can't find it anywhere...

    Also, has anyone had any experience with SimpleHelix or Aspiration? I would consider Aspiration but the lack of a CC option is a bit of a hard-sell for my boss.

    MDDHosting? StableHost? I am leaning towards Shared Hosting now as it's a bit cheaper... Trying to spend maybe $20-$25/month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    +1 for StableHost. You will be able to grow with them.
    For your needs/budget/technical skills I would avoid a VPS, best bet is an enterprise shared plan with bigger ressources like StableHost offers, in a way it's pretty much a managed VPS.
    Without the privacy of a VPS. As he mentioned before is for magento, he probably is going to receive CCs for offline processing or via gateway, either way if the CCs are entered in his ecommerce, he need to comply with PCI DSS.

    Skip the trouble go with a managed vps, like the one WiredTree offer or any equivalent in another provider.

    VPS are far more secure than a shared hosting with CL or without CL, doesnt matter, VPS is more secure.

    Just wanted to jump and point this out, since the majority is recommending shared hosting. Is not quite a good practice to run ecommerce under shared hosting. Some do it anyway and run their chance. Remember that your potential customers are trusting their personal info when they buy any service/product via your ecommerce system. Always keep that in mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackbunny View Post
    I am leaning towards Shared Hosting now as it's a bit cheaper... Trying to spend maybe $20-$25/month.
    To me, the advice given by @JLHC above seems to be good advice from a Magento specialist (who happens to have a plan that fits your budget).

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    I've never used above mentioned host, just sayin'

  10. I wouldnt say a VPS is more secure than a good shared hosting, specially from top providers.

    Also he says he wants to spend 20-25$ max, a good managed VPS will be alot more than this and ressources will be much lower. 4-5 Magento sites will need at least 2GB (not counting the OS, Apache/nginx, SQL, etc).

    If money wasnt an issue I would even recommend a small managed dedicated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HRR1963 View Post
    Skip the trouble go with a managed vps, like the one WiredTree offer or any equivalent in another provider
    Thanks for the double mention HRR1963!

    Being in the OP's situation is difficult because there is no definitive answer. Regardless of budget or server platform, it's still a game of chance. This may sound obvious but my very best advice I can give you is to reach out to a handful of companies and get to know them. Email them, call them on the phone, request to speak with their Support staff. Listen for queues to see if they are annoyed by your questions. Do they dodge answers? Take days or weeks and don't rush into the decision. Treat a potential hosting company like you are going to be dating them. It sounds funny for me to say these things but when it comes down to it, your business is in their hands. You will need a good business relationship with them if you want to succeed. Your budget may dictate certain options but there are still good choices at any budget level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    If money wasnt an issue I would even recommend a small managed dedicated.
    If money wasn't an issue I would recommend a bad ass managed dedicated system.

    It's amazing some of the numbers we see. People doing millions a year in revenue trying to squeeze their site out on a shared hosting plan. It's just weird. Infrastructure investment and improving the performance of your ecommerce store are two of the best things you can do with your money. If you skimp on either you will pay for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackbunny View Post
    I would consider Aspiration but the lack of a CC option is a bit of a hard-sell for my boss.
    Can you elaborate on this?

    We do accept credit cards directly (powered by Stripe) for quite some time now.
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    For magento website, its always better to purchase own VPS, don't think about shared hosting account because magento websites are heavy resources using websites. Make sure that you are purchasing the VPS with minimum 2GB RAM and 1 CPU , 64 bit OS , so that you can increase the RAM,CPU on your server in future, if you face any performance issue.
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    So money is sort of no longer a huge consideration... We're willing to go up to $60-$70, and expand with a la carte options for RAM, etc.

    So is WiredTree generally considered the best managed VPS solution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackbunny View Post
    So money is sort of no longer a huge consideration... We're willing to go up to $60-$70, and expand with a la carte options for RAM, etc.

    So is WiredTree generally considered the best managed VPS solution?
    IMHO -> yes

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    Aspirationhosting.com has shared magneto hosting for 25 a month. They allow you two fill cores from their dedicated servers. I have a few magneto clients that we moved to them after we stopped hosting magento.
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