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01-25-2014, 03:04 PM #1Junior Guru Wannabe
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Best Cloud Platform
I've been tasked with finding an appropriate Cloud platform that's both stable and affordable.
May I know what your general thoughts are on what cloud platform to choose?
Cloud Needs: Self healing is always nice. KVM, and XEN Virtulization. Needs to support stand alone Cloud servers and virtual servers. Public and private Cloud, etc.
Any suggestions would be highly appreciated.
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01-25-2014, 04:18 PM #2Streaming Specialist
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I was looking at onapp
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01-25-2014, 05:09 PM #3Junior Guru Wannabe
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With onAPP SAN is not necessary. The starting price of onAPP is just so expensive compared to Plesk.
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01-25-2014, 08:07 PM #4Junior Guru Wannabe
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Plesk = Parallels Cloud . Just in case so that no one is confused to what I'm referring to.
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01-25-2014, 10:34 PM #5Web Hosting Evangelist
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+ 1 for OpenStack is open source.
Each platform has advantages and disadvantages, all depends on what you want. and do not believe there the best.Cybernes Hosting: Hosting Cusco
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01-26-2014, 06:05 PM #6Norwegian polar bear hunter
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in the EU: iwstack.com, they are the best in Cloud hosting in EU.
Un the US and EU: DigtialCoean.com - really good prices, lots of features (less then iwStack, but still).
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01-27-2014, 10:03 AM #7Disabled
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I think the question was more about software management platform?
My vote would go with onapp
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01-27-2014, 01:59 PM #8New Member
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Cloud Hosting
There are a lot of things to think about when choosing a cloud provider. One thing to keep in mind, not all clouds are the same and not all clouds are for everyone. Sure, people are going to have their favorites as well and will chime-in.
What I have noticed is, Scalability, Business Agility, go to market, service delivery, High Availability, are all key factors in choosing a provider. Moving to a Cloud model is not just a buzz word or Cool Tech, its a business decision.
It also does depend on what you are looking for in a Cloud Provider. Pay-as-you-go Public Cloud is often a great choice for the DIY guy who wants to prevision a ready-to-run environment.. Where as a SaaS company may need extra hands and technical abilities/resources to meet the goals of the company.
Choosing a provider can sometimes be a quick trigger pull but I would suggest looking at this from a business standpoint. What are you trying to accomplish in choosing a provider?
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01-27-2014, 02:25 PM #9Junior Guru Wannabe
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There's hypervisors like XEN, VMware, Openstack, there's SAN's, there networking (1G of 10G), there's monitoring, management, billing, security, backup/recovery -- lots to consider.
The best solution for you depends on:
- Is this a new venture or are you migrating existing critical systems to cloud
- Is this for internal use or are you reselling to the public
- How much resources do you plan to use now, in 6 months, 12 months
- What is your expected uptime; do you need HA
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01-30-2014, 01:34 PM #10Junior Guru Wannabe
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I join the opinion of JPowersDD and SecureHostRichard, it depends on your need, you've to ask the good questions...
+1 hypervisor :CloudStack that you could try, opensource too
(we run it with Xen, and offer a free trial period, if any one would give it a try)
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02-03-2014, 06:07 PM #11Junior Guru Wannabe
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- Is this a new venture or are you migrating existing critical systems to cloud
>>> New Venture.
- Is this for internal use or are you reselling to the public
>>> Reselling to the public
- How much resources do you plan to use now, in 6 months, 12 months
>>> I have the servers and equipment and I was hoping for a long time venture.
- What is your expected uptime; do you need HA
>> Since this is supposed to be a cloud infrastructure,I was hoping for a 100% SLA. I mean I could do with 99.9%
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02-03-2014, 08:09 PM #12Junior Guru
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The best platform is what fits your needs. If you are looking more turnkey, I would consider OnAPP. If you want to build from scratch up and add your own tweaks, shoot for Openstack. The best cloud is the one that fits your needs and works best for you.
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02-04-2014, 02:26 PM #13Newbie
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I tested CloudStack by Apache and its really amazing and to my surprise it was stable ... ( I had that feeling xD )
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02-05-2014, 11:38 AM #14WHT Addict
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We're currently testing OnApp and designing hardware for it to use in production which gets really costly. 10Gb switches, NICs, SSD SAN, servers, etc. Just to start it gets into $250k+ range with everything included. OnApp is minimum $500/month as well.
... just saw your response and that this will be public. In that case if you choose OnApp pay for it for the support and integrated storage.
For 100% you need HA with everything, that means internet drops in the DC, routers, switches, NICs in the hosts, hosts themselves, SAN, etc. Your costs go significantly up.
Leaving this in here for others to reference.
But if your cloud can live with 16 cores, they do offer a free version. You can have as many hosts as you'd like aas long as they don;'t go over 16 CPU cores combined, so say 4 hosts with quad core CPU's and maybe 64GB RAM each. You can build your own SAN using various open source software, the free version of Starwind, or even Windows storage services. If this is something to use internally and you're not selling it as a service I think it's a great option.
The advantages of OnApp is that it's popular so there is decent community support for it. It's turn key and you can get it up and running in less than a day.███ Mike Kauspedas - GearHost
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02-06-2014, 05:10 PM #15Junior Guru Wannabe
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Thank you. I can start up the free version, run it in a test environment and see how everything works out. I've been a freelancer for too long... I was thinking it's time to start my own business aside from freelancing. onAPP free svcs would work to start, then as my business grows I can grown with it.
I've almost found the perfect domain for the job..and with your advice I could really get started without spending much.
Of course I would still need to buy the servers because I'm definitely going to collocate instead of renting servers.
Thanks again. onAPP it is.
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02-06-2014, 07:03 PM #16WHT Addict
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Sounds good, if you have any questions I'm watching this thread.
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03-11-2014, 05:01 PM #17Junior Guru
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03-13-2014, 10:20 AM #19Junior Guru
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+1 for onapp. Their pricing model is fair given the support that comes with the package.
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03-13-2014, 10:50 AM #20Temporarily Suspended
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As we know onapp need many config like network config and more than 3 vlan needed as said by onapp support, so i assume its hard for small hosting business who don't have vlan option, mostly colocation users have own switch and vlan's, is there any other option for cloud, simple & powerful?
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03-13-2014, 10:52 AM #21Disabled
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Onapp is indeed a little work to get running, but there are several providers of 'turnkey' onapp solutions. Dell sell onapp 'clouds' that you just install in a colo, and private onapp clouds are also provided by many providers.
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03-13-2014, 12:37 PM #22Web Hosting Master
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The pod idea is the existing dell solution with colo from peer 1? Is the pricing available?
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03-13-2014, 05:23 PM #25Aspiring Evangelist
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