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    Managed VPS for 450k pageviews blog?

    Hello, i run three wordpress blogs and 1 phpbb forum, all on the same server. One of the wordpress blog is responsible for 95% of the traffic. I'm currently getting 450k monthly pageviews and growing.

    I'm currently on the shared plan at Hostgator. However my website is going down at peak times (around 130), getting 500 errors, etc. This happens usually for hitting the CPU process limits. I have cache enabled for all sites. Besides, the sites are still growing, so I would start to get even more frequent downtimes.

    The bandwidth compumption is currently around 50GB (I expect it to grow slowly) and the disk usage is 4GB.

    Also, I need a VPS managed since I don't know much about server config on linux. Besides that, sometimes I run into some problems, which I need a good support (doesn't necessarily need to be live). I really like the hostgator support, which sometimes take a while but they always resolve my issues, even editing my htaccess, etc.

    So I would really appreciate some VPS (if it's the best choice) suggestions. I'm on a tight budget and at Hostgator they told me to choose the VPS Level 5 which is $104.95 monthly, an amount I'm not prepared to pay.

    Thank you very much.

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    Future Hosting offers splendid support with managed VPSs, and will even configure the server in a very bespoke way if needed (e.g. Nginx and/or PHP-FPM which are important for high-traffic sites). Performance was pretty good for me too. I think for the price they'll be hard to beat considering the resources you get.

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    I'm currently on the shared plan at Hostgator. However my website is going down at peak times (around 130), getting 500 errors
    this issue can be solved by optimising properly the VPS, but you are on shared hosting and the issue is common.

    Any server specs, preferable location and budget in mind?
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    You should start with a VPS with minimum 2 GB RAM.
    May be Nginx will help you to reduce CPU usage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Williams View Post
    Future Hosting offers splendid support with managed VPSs, and will even configure the server in a very bespoke way if needed (e.g. Nginx and/or PHP-FPM which are important for high-traffic sites). Performance was pretty good for me too. I think for the price they'll be hard to beat considering the resources you get.
    Thank you, Ryan, it seems very good, especially for the price. It's on my list.

    Quote Originally Posted by alex-developer View Post
    this issue can be solved by optimising properly the VPS, but you are on shared hosting and the issue is common.

    Any server specs, preferable location and budget in mind?
    About the server specs I don't know. I was hoping for some enlightment on what I should be aiming for with the stats I mentioned. Budget would be around $50 and location = nearest to Brazil as possible. US is ok.

    Quote Originally Posted by YagHost-Ravi View Post
    You should start with a VPS with minimum 2 GB RAM.
    May be Nginx will help you to reduce CPU usage.
    Thanks! And what about other specs, do you have any idea on what should I look for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucascarder View Post
    Thanks! And what about other specs, do you have any idea on what should I look for?
    cPanel -> Very good to manage server

    Min 2GB memory -> Good for a cPanel VPS

    KVM / XEN is better. But in many cases OpenVZ performs better. But still KVM is recommended.

    SSD Disk -> VPS performs much better.

    Nginx as reverse proxy with Apache -> Lower CPU / memory usage. Very good for high traffic websites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YagHost-Ravi View Post
    cPanel -> Very good to manage server

    Min 2GB memory -> Good for a cPanel VPS

    KVM / XEN is better. But in many cases OpenVZ performs better. But still KVM is recommended.

    SSD Disk -> VPS performs much better.

    Nginx as reverse proxy with Apache -> Lower CPU / memory usage. Very good for high traffic websites.
    Thanks, this is very useful!! And what about the VPS provider, any suggestions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucascarder View Post
    Thanks, this is very useful!! And what about the VPS provider, any suggestions?
    there are lots of good managed vps provider. check vps offer section and short list few providers.
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    About the server specs I don't know. I was hoping for some enlightment on what I should be aiming
    I not sure what HG sets their max resource usage at (RAM) but see where you site(s) are peaking and go from there. as YagHost-Ravi said 2G would be a good start for cpanel. You may get away with 1G if your sites are well optimized

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    Quote Originally Posted by HostingBig View Post
    I not sure what HG sets their max resource usage at (RAM) but see where you site(s) are peaking and go from there. as YagHost-Ravi said 2G would be a good start for cpanel. You may get away with 1G if your sites are well optimized
    Thanks you for the response

    I ask this because from what I see in the logs, I don't use that much RAM. The problems are caused by CPU usage.

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    you can try looking at tmzvps.com and go for 2gb ram pack of managed vps. you should do just fine with that. your ram usage should not be more than 1gb coz if it was then HG would have already kicked you out.

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    Look at knownhost. They run a solid operation and are very well priced

    You should have no problem with your budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaAnime View Post
    Look at knownhost. They run a solid operation and are very well priced

    You should have no problem with your budget.

    Francisco

    Thanks for the mention Francisco.

    Looks like everyone here is pointing you in the right direction but when you do decide where you wish to host at I would perform a full review of your WP settings and plugins as not all plugins are created equal and it very well could be one bad performing plugin causing a lot of the issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanielP View Post
    Thanks for the mention Francisco.

    Looks like everyone here is pointing you in the right direction but when you do decide where you wish to host at I would perform a full review of your WP settings and plugins as not all plugins are created equal and it very well could be one bad performing plugin causing a lot of the issues.
    I'm interested in using KnownHost. From what I've been researching it's the most suited for me. Do you think the VPS-2 would handle my sites alright from the stats i've given? Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucascarder View Post
    I'm interested in using KnownHost. From what I've been researching it's the most suited for me. Do you think the VPS-2 would handle my sites alright from the stats i've given? Thank you.
    Lucas,

    For a WP Site I would advise looking at a SSD offering. WP and it's plugins are very mysql intensive which gains great benefits from the extra boost a pure SSD solution can offer.

    If you are looking at the non-ssd offerings then yes a VPS-2 should be fine. However I will pre-face it with the fact that no two WP sites are created equal. I have seen sites with 10-20k hits a month destroy a VPS because of plugins or bad MySQL queries. No two sites are created equal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanielP View Post
    Lucas,

    For a WP Site I would advise looking at a SSD offering. WP and it's plugins are very mysql intensive which gains great benefits from the extra boost a pure SSD solution can offer.

    If you are looking at the non-ssd offerings then yes a VPS-2 should be fine. However I will pre-face it with the fact that no two WP sites are created equal. I have seen sites with 10-20k hits a month destroy a VPS because of plugins or bad MySQL queries. No two sites are created equal.
    Hello, Daniel. I think I'll be going with KnownHost after all. I'll be choosing the VPS-2, at least for now. One thing I would like to know before purchasing it is if you guys can take care of the migration from HostGator shared to the VPS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucascarder View Post
    Hello, Daniel. I think I'll be going with KnownHost after all. I'll be choosing the VPS-2, at least for now. One thing I would like to know before purchasing it is if you guys can take care of the migration from HostGator shared to the VPS.
    Lucas,

    Our services offer free migrations for any like control panel move. (I.E. cPanel to cPanel etc) so this would be no problem at all.
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    Well it looks like you found your new host. Would be nice to have a review of how the whole transferring process went. GL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lautaro View Post
    Well it looks like you found your new host. Would be nice to have a review of how the whole transferring process went. GL!
    I'll be sure to do that!

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    Try knownhost, they are really cheap.
    You should have no problem with your budget.

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    You won't have any issues if you go with a reputable managed vps provider. Make sure it's PURE SSD. Wordpress can be I/O intensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PlanetHoster View Post
    Make sure it's PURE SSD. Wordpress can be I/O intensive.
    +1 for this.
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    SSD or non-SSD

    Are the performance gains that large with SSD? I expect lot of the stuff in the memory anyway...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcoFox View Post
    Are the performance gains that large with SSD? I expect lot of the stuff in the memory anyway...
    I haven't observed any significant improvements with WordPress and other common PHP applications, mainly because as you say a lot of things are cached nowadays so it's very rarely that the 'first load' slowdown occurs. Without dismissing the merits of SSDs, I do think a lot of unnecessary emphasis is being put on them right now to push sales. It's the equivalent of the words 'cloud' and 'cluster' 3–5 years ago.

    On the code level, things like PHP-APC and Memcached mean that something like WordPress doesn't actually hit the disk that often. And on the static file level, Linux will automatically cache files in RAM until it's needed for other things. That's what the buffers part of the 'free' command shows, and why it's good to leave spare memory.

    Where SSDs are most beneficial is when a lot of writing to the hard drive is occurring, so long as the SSDs are actually optimised for write performance. When it comes to reading, most requests are cached so it's really not so important — not unless the files being read change constantly. SSDs are a tool that should be employed specifically in areas where an application is going to make use of it. They're not the general 'tune up' improvement many hosts imply them to be, and a lot of people are going out of their way to spend money on them for no reason.

    Of course, the greater IO potential of SSDs does mean that more clients can thrash the hard drive before slowdown occurs. That can be good for customers, but then the same logic applies as with CPUs: even though the CPUs of today are infinitely more powerful than the ones of even five years ago, it just results in most hosting companies piling more accounts onto each servers — so each individual customer feels little benefit.
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    So I've decided to go with KnownHost as I said.
    After they confirmed my payment, the migration was done very promptly. The only thing is that they took a while to confirm it (i paid by PayPal), but I can't complain.

    I went with the SSD VPS and am seeing that my wordpress site is MUCH more fast. I don't know if cache is working better now than it was on HostGator, but it seems so, since the site is loading in 1 sec (google javascripts like adsense takes longer). But I guess this was expected since I was in a HostGator shared hosting before.

    I already needed support 3 times, 2 about the migration and 1 about some strange 404s on my site. All of them were answered very quickly even the ones made on 4 in the morning.

    So yes, I'm VERY pleased with KnownHosting and after a few days, I already would recommend it.

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