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    WHMCS Dedicated Server Management

    Hi Guys,

    What are people using to manage Dedicated Servers in WHMCS?

    Looking for a script that allows you to suspend servers for non payment, manage bandwidth and suspend if limits are hit etc so it needs to monitor/control the port.

    Not sure what others are using, done some googling with not much luck.

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    Hmm I must add we have WHMCS in place so something that can be integrated would be awesome!
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    There is currently nothing out there that currently works with WHMCS for Dedicated Server Management. Everyone is either using NOC-PS integration and that's about it.

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    Ubersmith would be ideal if it was not pricey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Console View Post
    Ubersmith would be ideal if it was not pricey.
    How much is it? Does not say anything on there website.
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    You are looking for "server provisioning modules"

    There are plenty of modules which they operate with
    other providers like rackspace, softlayer, leaseweb, hetzner and so on...

    There is also this
    http://www.whmcs.com/appstore/144/NO...ng-module.html

    but I think it's quite old (not updated since 2010)

    Have a look here it might help
    http://www.whmcs.com/appstore/4/Provisioning-Modules

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    After doing some research I will be taking further look into NOC-PS

    Modules operating with other providers are no use to me as we have our own rackspace so we need to connect our own equipment to the software.

    NOC-PS is winning the vote so far and the pricing is more then fair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrismfz View Post
    There is also this
    http://www.whmcs.com/appstore/144/NO...ng-module.html

    but I think it's quite old (not updated since 2010)
    Just looked at the forum thread for this, I was not aware NOC-PS had a WHMCS module, even if it only does the basics, from the screenshots its perfect for me.

    This should make our server management far easier
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    Quote Originally Posted by MediaSwift View Post
    After doing some research I will be taking further look into NOC-PS

    Modules operating with other providers are no use to me as we have our own rackspace so we need to connect our own equipment to the software.

    NOC-PS is winning the vote so far and the pricing is more then fair.
    we use NOC-PS, we dont use the WHMCS integration we purely use it as a dedicated server provisioning tool internally and use ubersmith as a front end for clients, but have all support go through whmcs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberHostPro View Post
    we use NOC-PS, we dont use the WHMCS integration we purely use it as a dedicated server provisioning tool internally and use ubersmith as a front end for clients, but have all support go through whmcs.
    We use NOC-PS and WHMCS integration.

    Integrate with Cisco switches and APC pdus it can automate a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StealthyHosting View Post
    We use NOC-PS and WHMCS integration.

    Integrate with Cisco switches and APC pdus it can automate a lot.
    Can you elaborate more on the Cisco and APC portion of that. Curious from a hardware standpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrismfz View Post
    There is also this
    http://www.whmcs.com/appstore/144/NO...ng-module.html

    but I think it's quite old (not updated since 2010)
    The module outsources all the hard work to the main NOC-PS software product, and that does get updates.


    That said, we no longer advertise WHMCS support.

    WHMCS' updates broke our and other third-party modules twice this year.
    It works again now, but if you are a new customer we strongly recommend evaluating other billing solutions first.

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    Well Mate We use NOC-PS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxnet View Post
    The module outsources all the hard work to the main NOC-PS software product, and that does get updates.


    That said, we no longer advertise WHMCS support.

    WHMCS' updates broke our and other third-party modules twice this year.
    It works again now, but if you are a new customer we strongly recommend evaluating other billing solutions first.
    What if we already run whmcs
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    Quote Originally Posted by MediaSwift View Post
    What if we already run whmcs
    Better to switch to a more stable billing system now at your convenience, than risk it breaking again at an inconvenient time.

    You can still downlod the module if you really want to use it.
    Just not something we can recommend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGotzmann View Post
    Who is responsible to fix it when it breaks?
    Well, if you decide to apply some future WHMCS update on a Friday evening, and it breaks again, don't count on us to sacrifice our weekend on it.
    The module includes source code though, so you are free to attempt to fix it yourself, or hire any third-party developer for it.


    What caused it to break?
    WHMCS making breaking code changes in their updates and not telling anyone about it.

    First break this year was that they decided to change the location WHMCS looks for custom smarty templates files, breaking the third-party modules that use custom templates (not all do).
    WHMCS fixed that in a later update, of course still denying it was caused by them:

    One of the key additions is additional backwards compatibility for modules and custom pages written for earlier versions. This will mean that custom pages should require *NO* changes to continue functioning exactly as before.
    Makes it sound that ancient modules in need for backwards compatibility are to blame.
    Reality is that their provisioning module development kit documentation (link) hasn't been updated since years, and still lists the old location.
    It is impossible for a third-party to develop modules without this *cough* "backwards compatibility"


    More recent break was caused by them filtering out a SQL query we were using.
    We worked around that in our module code.
    But it would be nice if they properly documented such changes (and not as "#1234 -redacted-" in the Changelog)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxnet View Post
    Better to switch to a more stable billing system now at your convenience, than risk it breaking again at an inconvenient time.

    You can still downlod the module if you really want to use it.
    Just not something we can recommend.
    And what would you suggest as a "more stable" solution?

    We are open to suggestions on this one, I thought WHMCS was one of the most powerful solutions?
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    I just took a look into Ubersmith.

    It looked great, Until I found a pricing plan on this forum for it... The prices are crazy! Unfortunately the pricing makes the move from WHMCS to Ubersmith unreasonable.

    So, Is WHMCS the best?

    We need management for Dedicated servers, Overbilling for bandwidth usage etc.

    I am amazed WHMCS do not have this included in the software!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MediaSwift View Post
    And what would you suggest as a "more stable" solution?
    Blesta is promising, and given that most of their code is open, a developer can more easily spot what changed between versions.

    One thing that annoyed us most with WHMCS is not just that things changed, but that it is not easy to spot what the $%$#% changed.
    Redacted changelogs are not very helpful.


    Hostbill is less stable (has a more impulsive developer) but pretty good featurewise and not that bad codewise either.


    I just took a look into Ubersmith.
    Actually, to be fair to WHMCS, they are better than Ubersmith when it comes to third-party modules.

    While WHMCS's developer documentation lags behind, Ubersmith does not have any documentation at all for modules.
    Only a single sample source file that prints the input the module currently receives from Ubersmith to screen.
    That is not acceptable to us as a third-party developer, as that means the input received can change between versions, without that being documented anywhere.

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