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    * Insight SPLA Price Increase

    Did anyone else just get a notice saying that effective January 1 that prices on SPLA licenses through Insight are going up between 20 and 45% depending on the license?
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    I received this email as well. It looks like Windows Server 2012 Standard doesn't go up until January, 2015. Did I read this correctly?
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    I just e-mailed with our rep. Apparently they've known about it for a long time, but didn't bother to tell us until now.
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    Note that this is a Microsoft increase, not specific to any partner.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jasonsite View Post
    It looks like Windows Server 2012 Standard doesn't go up until January, 2015. Did I read this correctly?
    Correct. Nothing next year, +20% in 2015

    Datacenter goes up 38% in January and another 13% in 2015.

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    Insight are bound by MS prices like every other reseller to an extent, to be honest there is very little difference between them all (-10 to 10%, granted on 200+ desktop it adds up, sure same on SPLA vs OVLA), only issue was that Insight gave the correct price first time whilst the other resellers didn't until they had to commit, after much ball ache (try dealing with big companies) I couldnt get signoff on Insight and had to go with the bait and switch companies. Insight arent cheap but at least in the UK gave out the correct prices..
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    My problem isn't so much with the price increase, as I get that it comes from Microsoft. It's that they provided us notice of the increase on December 18 that takes effect on January 1, when they've known of the increase for some time.
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    Strange, we don't seem to have received the notice, but I do see the increase from $65 to $90 January 2014 for Data Center Edition when I click on the latest newsletter under "SPLA Pricing Summary". Nothing mentioned about the 2015 changes that I see there though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by qps View Post
    My problem isn't so much with the price increase, as I get that it comes from Microsoft. It's that they provided us notice of the increase on December 18 that takes effect on January 1, when they've known of the increase for some time.
    Who are you blaming MS or the the reseller?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattF View Post
    Who are you blaming MS or the the reseller?
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    I think this was expected, I saw news on this back in September from other vendors...

    Here's more specific details of the change: http://www.insight.com/us/en/brands/...ewsletter.html

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    Time to step away from Microsoft. It's good we don't have that many Windows boxes running.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 24x7group View Post
    Time to step away from Microsoft. It's good we don't have that many Windows boxes running.
    Isn't Bill Gates's bank account already big enough? How many more billions does he need?
    Tell that to the customers who need it. What's the point of this post anyway?

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    Yes, received the email as well, so short notice is really a shock.

    I don´t know if this comes from Insight or Microsoft but this does not show any seriousness on their part. So hosting companies are now supposed to increase their prices in days?

    If I was a hosting company I would inform this on the email increase to my customers, that the notice came without any prior notification in advance just to wash of hands.

    Lets see, Microsoft removed the 2008 products which where the most sold editions, in particular Server Web Edition. They forced providers to move to 2012 and for a more expensive price this year.

    Then they changed their license regarding virtual systems and increase the prices again.

    Now they increase in more than 20% their prices again in 2014.

    So what is exactly Microsoft up to? Kill their partners and move customers to their own cloud? How exactly is Amazon and other companies offering virtual desktops for less than 30$ a month?

    It seems Microsoft is pushing more expensive prices to most companies and have special deals with big providers.

    Or they are trying to milk companies vs the loss they had with desktop licenses as it seems Win8 is not sold as much as they hope, neither the surface and other products where they lost gazillions dollars.

    Is the way the way of Microsoft telling providers to drop completely MS products?

    The 2013 price increase set Microsoft servers and other products in a thought spot already vs free Linux cloud machines. And now they come up with a bigger increase?

    It seems Windows Server which I actually like allot and so do new admins of servers will be a thing from the past. The budget market at least will not be able to afford virtual machines running Windows anymore. Its going to be just to expensive to even be price affordable.

    Also, Microsoft seems to forget the license cost is not the only cost providers have, they already have an extra burden with having to manage and report the licenses.

    I think 2014 will be the year that Linux will completely take the hosting world as Microsoft is just shooting themselves more and more with removing products like Web Edition and increasing their prices even more for a product nobody wants. Yes Im talking to you Server 2012.

    Companies can only offer what their users request, and so far I don´t see people begging to buy 2012 Servers. 2008 R2 was actually a great product.

    Bring us back the 2008 Servers price model !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintereise View Post
    Tell that to the customers who need it. What's the point of this post anyway?
    The point of the post probably was from the initial poster to confirm if only he received the price increase or others did as well because to be honest I was going to ask exactly the same thing before I saw this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loon View Post
    Note that this is a Microsoft increase, not specific to any partner.




    Correct. Nothing next year, +20% in 2015

    Datacenter goes up 38% in January and another 13% in 2015.
    This is not what I received, allot of products go up by January 2014.

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    $65 -> $90/mo/cpu for data center. And another 15% in 2015. Greedy ****s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nibb View Post
    The point of the post probably was from the initial poster to confirm if only he received the price increase or others did as well because to be honest I was going to ask exactly the same thing before I saw this thread.
    I believe you misread my reply. That question was strictly to the useless reply I quoted (and replied to).

    Apologies if it appeared otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nibb View Post
    This is not what I received, allot of products go up by January 2014.
    I only mentioned Datacenter as it's probably the most relevant here. There are increases for System Center, Core Infrastructure Datacenter and Remote Desktop. Also some changes to Dynamics based on the new version, but you shouldn't have anything else?

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    The increase is do to the fact that you can run more VPS's on a single CPU socket, with AMD pushing out 24 core CPU's/socket in 2014 this was to be expected.
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    Microsoft announced it in August/September. Plenty of time till January no?

    Windows Datacenter will increase now and in 2015; Standard in 2015.
    But this is due to the release of Windows Cloud Edition. It's going to cost differently: per hypervisor/processor and per VM instance (windows only). They want practically to force everybody to migrate to Win Cloud OS.

  22. talking about Microsoft caught in a "monkey-trap"
    http://www.channelregister.co.uk/201...l_monkey_trap/

    Quote Originally Posted by The Register
    Microsoft is caught in a monkey-trap, created by cloud computing and Free Software, coupled with short-term thinking and a dose of not-invented-here syndrome.

    You know how monkey-traps work? You make a small hole in a coconut shell, put some bait in it and tie it to something. The monkey comes along, reaches in for the bait and grabs a handful. But when it tries to retrieve its prize, it can't: its fist won't fit through the hole. The monkey is trapped by its own greed. Under pressure, the animal isn't able to choose between escape and letting go of the goodies; you just walk up and whack it over the head.

    That's the situation Microsoft is in right now with its virtualisation strategy.......

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    We pass the costs on to customers. So, those that offer it FREE will probably bite the bullet now.

    The joy of another announcement to customers during the holiday season.
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    talking about Microsoft caught in a "monkey-trap"
    http://www.channelregister.co.uk/201...l_monkey_trap/
    Man, I knew I was going to be dealing with licensing headaches when it came to Microsoft... we were planning on adding Microsoft to our product line...

    Reading that article though, that makes me go, "Licensing hell? Nopenopenopenopenopenope."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Suds View Post
    $65 -> $90/mo/cpu for data center. And another 15% in 2015. Greedy ****s.
    You are talking about datacenter edition here with unlimited virtualization rights. If you index that to CPU/RAM performance gain you will see that in terms of computing capacity in 2015 it will still be cheaper than it was when $65/CPU price was introduced. It looks like Microsoft is saying "you consolidate workloads onto fewer machines with fewer CPUs because CPUs are bigger and RAM is more dense, so we adjust our price to compensate". Whether it makes sense or not is a question for each customer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMDM View Post
    You are talking about datacenter edition here with unlimited virtualization rights. If you index that to CPU/RAM performance gain you will see that in terms of computing capacity in 2015 it will still be cheaper than it was when $65/CPU price was introduced. It looks like Microsoft is saying "you consolidate workloads onto fewer machines with fewer CPUs because CPUs are bigger and RAM is more dense, so we adjust our price to compensate". Whether it makes sense or not is a question for each customer.
    Indeed. However, just because the license cost has increased, doesn't mean you still have servers that are 2-3 years old running Data Center Edition. You're now paying today's price to run Data Center Edition on equipment that is slightly outdated, but still functional and usable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ocosa View Post
    We pass the costs on to customers. So, those that offer it FREE will probably bite the bullet now.

    The joy of another announcement to customers during the holiday season.
    I guess nobody will free a datacenter edition.

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    DataCenter will be $90 in Jan,
    Cloud Platform Suite will be $6/CPU(Host) plus $24/windows guest

    The only use for CPS is if you have les than 4 very large VPS on a single server or if you are running all Linux VM's on a server.

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    Hosting industry is just a drop in a bucket to MS. We received the email back in July/Aug and really does not affect business.
    No one is forcing no one to suck up the cost, you just have to make sure you make enough profits to atleast cover it or make profit on top of the cost of license. MS is making money on their product why should not we ????

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