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12-10-2013, 12:10 PM #1New Member
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High Risk Merchant for handmade water pipes
Im looking for a merchant or high risk merchant that allows me to sell my handmade function art. They are water pipes. All the processors I have found so far have seemed very untrustworthy, can anyone suggest one that works for them? Thanks
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12-10-2013, 01:05 PM #2New Member
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Currently Highriskpay.com is the one that contacts me the most asking for my business saying they can help me out. I just want to make sure they are legit
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12-10-2013, 02:16 PM #3Web Hosting Master
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Well, you may try WireCard, 2checkout, Ogone and various other payment processors like SafeCharge etc.
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12-10-2013, 06:00 PM #4Newbie
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Theres are a lot of payment gateways out there
Paypal,Worldpay,sage. But it really depends on country as some have different laws
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12-11-2013, 03:01 AM #5WHT Addict
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I'm pretty sure Paypal doesn't allow such transactions for "Pipes, Bong's, etc"
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12-11-2013, 03:16 AM #6Junior Guru Wannabe
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Lol, like people would ever smoke "tobacco" out of a disgusting water pipe. :p
Back in my teen years I saw too many people drooling into the pipes water and etc. not to mention the whole face/mouth herpes/hpv thing.
Have fun inhaling your buddies spit if you use those nasty things.
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12-12-2013, 05:56 PM #7Junior Guru
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12-12-2013, 08:39 PM #8Junior Guru
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Drug paraphermalia won't be accepted... (stupid them!)
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12-12-2013, 11:07 PM #9Junior Guru
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I have processors that board merchant selling smoking devices as long as they are marketed correctly. Apparently and against common belief, people smoke other things then just drugs from pipes. Its been going on for thousands of years. I live in a big city, we have neighborhoods where there is a hookah bar on every corner. Its cultural, not illegal.
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12-13-2013, 11:34 PM #10Junior Guru
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12-15-2013, 09:39 PM #11Junior Guru
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I would definitely agree with you there, most will not touch it. My company specializes in high risk and offshore options, so we see this business type from time to time. Its not easy to place but it can be done. Many of the processors that will support this business type try to keep out of the public eye.
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01-02-2014, 03:32 AM #12New Member
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2card, wirecheck are some of the important merchants which can be used
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01-02-2014, 10:13 AM #13Junior Guru
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01-02-2014, 08:09 PM #14Junior Guru
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And what about electronic cigarettes e-cigs, do you know any processor that accept them ? It seems that Paypal close accounts in US ?
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01-22-2014, 01:30 PM #15Junior Guru
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Correct - Paypal no longer supports e-cigs
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02-13-2014, 02:24 PM #16Junior Guru
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I just heard from a partner that if a company is based in a place like Hong Kong, they can get a Paypal account for e-cig. I guess this is a type of work-around for the US e-cig merchants who have recently been closed by Paypal. I went to an e-cig site that was based in China and tried to use Paypal and it worked, so this might be something for you e-cig merchants to consider - Incorporate outside the US and you can still target US customers using Paypal.
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02-13-2014, 08:07 PM #17Junior Guru
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Wrong.
Paypal for e-cigs works for anybody until Paypal bots and monkeys find out.
There is no special rule for anyone.
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02-14-2014, 10:43 AM #18Junior Guru
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I dug a bit deeper on this and I agree with you. When I contacted a merchant account manager at Paypal HK, I was told that this business type is acceptable. However, when I brought this up to a US executive they told me that regardless of where the business is located, it will still fall under the Paypal prohibited business in their acceptable use policy. So, looks like this a case of an account manager not fully understanding what is prohibited.
You might get an auto approval, but as buythiscomputer says, the bots will catch up to you eventually.
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02-15-2014, 12:09 AM #19Junior Guru
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Thousands of e-cig sellers had their account locked...
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02-17-2014, 10:25 AM #20Junior Guru
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Ok - the plot thickens! Check out this reply I received from Paypal after hounding them about jurisdiction of merchant:
Thank you for contacting PayPal's Brand Risk Management Department regarding your Electronic Cigarette questions.
The PayPal User Agreement states that PayPal, at its sole discretion, reserves the right to limit an account for any violation of the User Agreement, including the Acceptable Use Policy.
Under the Acceptable Use Policy, PayPal may not be used for the sale of certain products that present a risk to consumer safety. To identify products that jeopardize consumer safety, PayPal reviews laws, regulations and other government actions, other available information, and marketing content related to the product. The sale of e-cigarettes or electronic cigarettes from your jurisdiction is covered by this policy. At this time any PayPal Merchants in Brazil, Canada and the United States of America fall under this Jurisdiction.
If you have any further questions, please contact the PayPal Brand Risk Management Department at aup@paypal.com.
Sincerely,
Sofia
PayPal, Brand Risk Management
PayPal, an eBay Company
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So, perhaps my original comments on Hong Kong based e-cig are correct, its acceptable!
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02-17-2014, 09:37 PM #21Junior Guru
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So it means that is is only forbidden in Brazil, Canada and USA ?
Hard to believe...
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02-17-2014, 09:49 PM #22Junior Guru
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03-07-2014, 12:42 PM #23Newbie
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I'll be interested to follow this, often times processors won't allow you to sell those products within the jurisdiction where they are restricted, it's kind of a case by case basis from what I've seen in part based on the question of whether they are taking on any liability, I'd definitely steer away from a US company if possible and when looking international you should also consider the tax issues.
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03-18-2014, 06:04 PM #24Web Hosting Guru
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Your best bet may be to look at accepting Bitcoin. Several Bitcoin processors will turn Bitcoin payments into cash that gets deposited directly into your bank account. Check out Bitpay.com, coinbase.com or gocoin.com . There are no chargebacks when accepting Bitcoin.
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