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  1. #1
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    Best US to EU network in terms of latency?

    Firstly this server must be located in the US.

    Secondly I will not be buying two servers

    Thirdly I understand this is juggling act of compromise.

    My aim is to have the lowest pings/latency realistically possible from the US to the EU and as a nice afterthought also non terrible AU/NZ routing would be nice.

    The server I aim to replace is runs a gameserver (Minecraft) currently located in Philadelphia (East cost US), I personally get 109ms ping. Things are very playable. But as of late the network has come very inconsistent - and that is a problem.

    I see that Choopa/ReliableSite/ReliableServers/Constant (New Jersey) offer a few milliseconds better ping (for me) but I am wondering if I can do much better? I am just not sure where to look or to be honest what to look for.

    (Lets assume I have a average budget and average nothing special hardware requirements )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wompie View Post
    Firstly this server must be located in the US.

    Secondly I will not be buying two servers

    Thirdly I understand this is juggling act of compromise.

    My aim is to have the lowest pings/latency realistically possible from the US to the EU and as a nice afterthought also non terrible AU/NZ routing would be nice.

    The server I aim to replace is runs a gameserver (Minecraft) currently located in Philadelphia (East cost US), I personally get 109ms ping. Things are very playable. But as of late the network has come very inconsistent - and that is a problem.

    I see that Choopa/ReliableSite/ReliableServers/Constant (New Jersey) offer a few milliseconds better ping (for me) but I am wondering if I can do much better? I am just not sure where to look or to be honest what to look for.

    (Lets assume I have a average budget and average nothing special hardware requirements )
    We (ReliableSite) isn't the same company as Choopa/ReliableServers/Constant, but utilize the same network. The New York / NJ area is the best you'll get to the EU as it's a major hub for the lines that run under the ocean. You might shave off 1 - 2 MS here and there depending on the route, but you can't physically get closer.
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    Yes 1-2ms here or there adds up though.

    For example the difference mentioned in the OP worked out 8% better.

    Perhaps someone will mention another provider that is another 1-2ms better here and there and then suddenly the difference is 15% etc

    Thats why I ask. It all adds up.

    But lets not forget the bigger picture I know - its not all about *my* ping. I definitely am looking for some firsthand experience and recommendations.

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    Firsthand knowledge, I have used Reliablesite for over a year now and never have had one complaint from the european players on my gameservers. Most of them can't believe how low their ping is. Reliable will work with you and help you build your community. I understand you might want to shave off 1-2 ms of ping but add in 24/7 real tech support. I mean you get the peice of mind to know that your server won't go down. I love reliable site the only down side is they don't have locations else where.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Injection View Post
    Firsthand knowledge, I have used Reliablesite for over a year now and never have had one complaint from the european players on my gameservers. Most of them can't believe how low their ping is. Reliable will work with you and help you build your community. I understand you might want to shave off 1-2 ms of ping but add in 24/7 real tech support. I mean you get the peice of mind to know that your server won't go down. I love reliable site the only down side is they don't have locations else where.
    Thanks for the awesome words!
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    I would suggest Internap if you have budget for that and if not reliablesite.net. Have talked to John couple of times and he was nice to me. Do note: I don't have any server with reliablesite.net but still based on our talk would recommend them.

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    Thanks for the mention of Internap Alex.

    In terms of latency the New York IP I found for them is seriously impressive.

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    GO for east cost location.Also New York location will be best.
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    Softlayer's east coast network looks great too but damn, seems like their prices went up a little since I last used them.

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    For financial trading/game servers hosting (I presume that's why you need the lowest latency) Equinix NY2 and NY4 are used mostly for those purposes.
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    Ment to ask which company are you currently with?

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    Do you have any IP in EU to compare with? What is your location in EU?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Injection View Post
    Ment to ask which company are you currently with?
    Currently with a DatabasebydesignLLC who seems to send the bulk of their traffic over Cogent. It has been terrible recently.

    Just a few mins ago we had an hour of 30% packetloss.

    The same a few days ago. And a few days before that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wompie View Post
    Currently with a DatabasebydesignLLC who seems to send the bulk of their traffic over Cogent. It has been terrible recently.

    Just a few mins ago we had an hour of 30% packetloss.

    The same a few days ago. And a few days before that.
    The opposite is actually true, where 90% traffic is sent and received over Level3. This particular inbound route is impacted by an upstream Cogent router(JKF02) which we've been working to resolve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DatabaseByDesignLLC View Post
    The opposite is actually true, where 90% traffic is sent and received over Level3. This particular inbound route is impacted by an upstream Cogent router(JKF02) which we've been working to resolve.
    I guess the hours and hours of me doing traceroutes from all over Europe lied to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DatabaseByDesignLLC View Post
    The opposite is actually true, where 90% traffic is sent and received over Level3. This particular inbound route is impacted by an upstream Cogent router(JKF02) which we've been working to resolve.
    I do have to disagree, respectfully.

    http://cloudmonitor.ca.com/en/traceroute.php all of their EU servers go over Cogent.

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