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05-18-2014, 03:58 AM #26Web Hosting Guru
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Just recently got hit by a DDoS, with the free DDos Protection
I noticed during the Mitigation (SeviŽ) the server goes offline and blocks all connections Might as well call it nullroute.
Also during the "Nullroute" or SeviŽ Mitigation Ping is accessible however everything else isn't.
Support claims during Mitigation all UDP traffic is blocked. But that doesn't explain why SSH and other TCP service's are down except ICMP
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05-18-2014, 04:23 AM #27Web Hosting Guru
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Does anybody have the upgraded Arbor from them? if so does it do well against Spoofed/Amplified Chargen attacks
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05-18-2014, 06:27 AM #28Web Hosting Master
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Based on my experience the free antiddos protection causes more harm then good.
As for arbor I got a few very high end servers there behind arbor (with arbor panel access) but we added it just to have it... not receiving any attack for the moment.
For chargen attacks I suggest you to host somewhere where they have massive networks and can add custom ACL to their core routers (try to ask www.nforce.com for example)Last edited by EvolutionCrazy; 05-18-2014 at 06:34 AM.
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05-18-2014, 01:12 PM #29Web Hosting Guru
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05-18-2014, 02:17 PM #30Divided by Zero
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How long did the nullroute take in your case?
I had a completely unexplainable downtime of my website with a duration of exactly 30mins. The server was pingable, but neither I nor visitors could reach it. I have never been DDoS'ed before (knock on wood) but could that have been their "DDoS Protection" going a bit crazy? Everything came back to normal by itself after those 30mins. I do not believe that it was a network problem. The server was pingable from different locations all of the time. It also has not been rebooted. Very strange.
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05-18-2014, 02:32 PM #31Web Hosting Guru
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05-18-2014, 06:48 PM #32Web Hosting Guru
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http://www.online.net/en/dedicated-s...-arbor#pricing
Near the bottom. It says there is a contact is there really one?
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05-18-2014, 06:50 PM #33Web Hosting Master
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when signing the contract for the ddos protection you agree to never talk to anybody about the protection... I think you will never see a review... be it positive or negative... we are just not allowed to talk about it...
by the way... both arbor protections requires professional use on the server (that's another +150eur)
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05-18-2014, 06:57 PM #34Web Hosting Guru
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05-18-2014, 07:13 PM #35Web Hosting Master
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05-18-2014, 07:19 PM #36Web Hosting Guru
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States continuous service
http://i.imgur.com/oJeF41K.png
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05-18-2014, 07:27 PM #37Web Hosting Master
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continuos services means they keep your services running even while under ddos ... but there's a delay for sure between detection and injection .... only the 150+70 one in fact has "none" ddos impact
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05-18-2014, 07:28 PM #38Web Hosting Guru
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05-18-2014, 07:29 PM #39Web Hosting Master
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yes...
I own and manage many servers there
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05-18-2014, 07:39 PM #40Web Hosting Guru
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Anyways is the Advanced protection going to nullroute you after an attack like the basic protection?
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05-19-2014, 04:17 AM #41Web Hosting Master
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You need to try it out, or ask your server administrator to enlight you or help you set it up
Personally if you are low on budget I would prefer OVH to online.net
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05-19-2014, 06:23 AM #42Newbie
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Sevi anti ddos is advise for web configuration and basic configuration.
If you have a configuration server more important, you could use arbor network to mitigate your attack.
The advanced protections has an automatic ddos attack detection and delete all malixious traffic.
This solution allow you to block the majority of your attacks while having access to your server.
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05-19-2014, 06:34 AM #43Web Hosting Master
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a chargen reflected (deny udp traffic with src port 19) and a ntp reflected (deny udp traffic with src port 123) should be the basic in any kind of protection... call it sevi, arbor or whatever you like.
Looks like it's not the case for the "free" online.net protection.
OVH free one instead is oustanding in blocking malicious traffic while allowing ssh access and udp services to keep working properly
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05-20-2014, 01:13 PM #44Disabled
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05-21-2014, 04:19 PM #45Newbie
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Hello,
Since Monday, we have an UDP protection on standard level (the included free protection). Before we only protected TCP because the goal of this free protection is to protect web hosting business, not game services.
It should be ok right now
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05-21-2014, 04:37 PM #46Web Hosting Guru
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