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11-07-2013, 03:55 PM #1Temporarily Suspended
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Virtual Platform Suggestion!
Which one is best
Open Stack
Cloud Stack
Citrix xenserver
also with which platform they should integrate :
Host Bill or
WHMCS
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11-07-2013, 04:08 PM #2Location = SoapBox
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Im not sure you should be looking at it that way
personally, I would make a platform decision first (ie onapp, openstack, cloudstack) - then a hypervisor decision
it gets confusing as hypervisors like xenserver and vmware can also operate as a platform, so you need to consider that as well
for us, we liked a hypervisor neutral platform approach so that we maintained some flexibility and kept hypervisor options open
for example, with onapp, you can run xen,kvm, vmware
with cloudstack, you can run many hypervisors including xenserver, vmware, etc - same with openstack (though not sure if openstack supports xenserver or not)
basically - I would choose an agnostic platform, and leave your hypervisor options more open and flexible (but, thats just how I look at it)
for platforms - its rough to justify openstack/cloudstack unless you are willing to invest in your own internal engineering team to run and manage those platforms (which is perfectly reasonable for many organizations)
I guess there are 3rd party options to support/manage these platforms as well
we did a TCO on all of this and went with onapp - makes way more sense for us to use our engineering resources elsewhere and pay onapp their per core fee to support/develop the platform. others TCO analysis and numbers may vary obviously, but, for us it was a no brainer
for a billing platform - take your pick I guess. we like hostbill and its integration with onapp is pretty mature and is plug and play at this pointwww.cartika.com
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11-07-2013, 05:14 PM #4Newbie
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I know that HostBill has integrations for OnApp, Cloudstack and OpenStack, I'm not sure what WHMC has and after a quick review of their site don't see those listed.
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11-07-2013, 05:22 PM #6Aspiring Evangelist
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It's all about what best works for YOU. You really need to come up with business requirements then choose your technologies based on those requirements. Business before technology.
Both WHMCS and HostBill play nice with the major platforms. However, they both offer different types of licensing models that may or may not fit your business requirements.
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11-07-2013, 06:18 PM #7Disabled
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What Anthony said.
Decide first what you want to offer your clients or planned clients, what services you need, how you need it to work commercially, then find a platform to suit those needs.
Each offering, be it hostbill or whmcs, or onapp or vmware has strengths and weaknesses in different areas. How those factors impact your decision relates entirely to your specific requirements and what is important for your business.
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11-08-2013, 06:17 AM #9Disabled
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What have you decided on?
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11-08-2013, 02:11 PM #10Temporarily Suspended
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11-08-2013, 02:38 PM #11Temporarily Suspended
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By the way decided for:
Host Bill + Cloud Stack
But confused for hypervisors: VMware, KVM, XenServer and Xen Cloud Platform (XCP) , which can be used to deploy both Windows and Linux flavours.
Need Help!
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11-08-2013, 03:00 PM #12Disabled
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I'm confused anyway
You call my question about what you decided on 'point scoring' then answer it anyway, and ask for help, but aren't specific about what you need help with?
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11-08-2013, 04:45 PM #14Aspiring Evangelist
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I doubt dediserv is any type of post count race .....
If you are just starting out, I would take VMWare out of your choices. VMWare is very expensive in terms of licensing. You cannot use the free version. You must sign up for their service provider license program, which will charge you for vCPU's and memory assigned to each VM. You must also pay for management services such as vcenter and licensing for the hosts.
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11-08-2013, 06:29 PM #17Web Hosting Master
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11-09-2013, 03:36 AM #20Temporarily Suspended
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whats about
Cloud Stack +Xen server?
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11-13-2013, 02:01 AM #21Temporarily Suspended
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Why don't you try OnApp ? it has full integration with HostBill app
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11-13-2013, 05:32 AM #22Web Hosting Master
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