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    * Is shared environment more secure than VPS

    In September / 18 / 2013 : I moved from Shared environment to the VPS with same provider.

    I was happy at the beginning. But by the time i recognized that i have overloaded my duties.

    - Hacker attacks.

    - Spammers.

    - Security Threats.

    - Management Duties.

    Do you think that the shared environment provides better performance ?

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    Shared web hosting can be more secure if you don't take some steps on securing your VPS.

    Performance really varies on shared due to the fact that the resources are shared, but that's why the price makes up for it.

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    These two are sort of incomparable
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vernard View Post
    Shared web hosting can be more secure if you don't take some steps on securing your VPS.

    Performance really varies on shared due to the fact that the resources are shared, but that's why the price makes up for it.
    Hi;
    Thanks for the reply.

    Please describe the steps needed to secure the VPS

    Please advice me.

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    Well, it depends on the provider. A fully managed shared environment, with a provider that has an attention to detail and really takes server management seriously--not neglecting tasks--with:
    -a good well managed firewall
    -daily updated rules
    -log review (by human eyes) daily and quickly upon event notification
    -willingness to manage email reputation and active spam filtering with optimization
    -willingness to understand your site/account/scripts (webmaster services)
    -willingness to tech issues and provide proactive security

    If you find someone that does all of this, and you can't do this yourself on a VPS then the answer is YES! But many hosts can't afford to do all of this. They stuff people on to well configured boxes and react when problems arise. While I'll bet there are meticulous discount hosts, I'd wager that if you are paying too little the host can't afford to do this. So finding a well managed shared host that you pay a fair rate to, and that actually does this stuff is essential.

    IMO, VPS is only for folks that either want to manage their own environments or have a hostile environment that they are kind enough to isolate from others. Though, the industry charges so little for shared, that they often force folks on to VPS to have enough resources, rather than allow them to stay happily in a shared environment and pay for the resources having it all managed for them.

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    Security really based on how you manage the server. With shared hosting, your host secure and manage the server where with a VPS ( unmanaged / semi-managed ) it is your duty to manage and administer it. If its fully managed, your host is responsible for security and stability of your VPS. But with VPS, you have the flexibility to install / tweak anything based on your need. On a shared server, you will be limited to use what your host provide. I won't say you will get performance improvement in all cases. It is all based on how much resources you have on new VPS and how much is your usage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoid View Post
    These two are sort of incomparable
    Hi;

    Thanks for the opinion

    Kindly can i ask you to talk more about your sentence ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gPowerHost View Post
    Well, it depends on the provider. A fully managed shared environment, with a provider that has an attention to detail and really takes server management seriously--not neglecting tasks--with:
    -a good well managed firewall
    -daily updated rules
    -log review (by human eyes) daily and quickly upon event notification
    -willingness to manage email reputation and active spam filtering with optimization
    -willingness to understand your site/account/scripts (webmaster services)
    -willingness to tech issues and provide proactive security

    If you find someone that does all of this, and you can't do this yourself on a VPS then the answer is YES! But many hosts can't afford to do all of this. They stuff people on to well configured boxes and react when problems arise. While I'll bet there are meticulous discount hosts, I'd wager that if you are paying too little the host can't afford to do this. So finding a well managed shared host that you pay a fair rate to, and that actually does this stuff is essential.

    IMO, VPS is only for folks that either want to manage their own environments or have a hostile environment that they are kind enough to isolate from others. Though, the industry charges so little for shared, that they often force folks on to VPS to have enough resources, rather than allow them to stay happily in a shared environment and pay for the resources having it all managed for them.
    Hi;

    Thanks for valuable advice.

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    If it is self-managed VPS, you will need skill to manage your server as well as to maintain the server security. If it is managed VPS, you do not need to worry about security because it falls under your service provider.

    If you do not have server management skill, yes shared hosting is more secure than VPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nixtree View Post
    Security really based on how you manage the server. With shared hosting, your host secure and manage the server where with a VPS ( unmanaged / semi-managed ) it is your duty to manage and administer it. If its fully managed, your host is responsible for security and stability of your VPS. But with VPS, you have the flexibility to install / tweak anything based on your need. On a shared server, you will be limited to use what your host provide. I won't say you will get performance improvement in all cases. It is all based on how much resources you have on new VPS and how much is your usage.
    Hi;

    Thanks a lot for the valuable advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailash12 View Post
    If it is self-managed VPS, you will need skill to manage your server as well as to maintain the server security. If it is managed VPS, you do not need to worry about security because it falls under your service provider.

    If you do not have server management skill, yes shared hosting is more secure than VPS.
    Hi;

    Thanks for the valuable advice.

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    Being on a vps server it means you have to learn to secure it, keep up with it. When you are on shared hosting they do all that stuff on the server for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nilelove View Post
    In September / 18 / 2013 : I moved from Shared environment to the VPS with same provider.

    I was happy at the beginning. But by the time i recognized that i have overloaded my duties.

    - Hacker attacks.

    - Spammers.

    - Security Threats.

    - Management Duties.

    Do you think that the shared environment provides better performance ?

    Seems to me that you got unmanaged vps and with unmanaged, you are own your own and you need to secure it.

    If you really want to stay with VPS, then you should get a managed VPS so that you do not have to worry about security anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nilelove View Post
    In September / 18 / 2013 : I moved from Shared environment to the VPS with same provider.

    I was happy at the beginning. But by the time i recognized that i have overloaded my duties.

    - Hacker attacks.

    - Spammers.

    - Security Threats.

    - Management Duties.

    Do you think that the shared environment provides better performance ?
    If you really want top level server management and if you have a high risk of being hacked I would recomend to buy a unmanaged VPS and use a 4rd party server management provider. Something like http://www.platinumservermanagement.com/ .
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    Out of the box, any good shared platform should be more secure than a fresh VPS.

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    Both shared and vps hosting can be hardened to the same level, and both can be poorly managed just as easily. From a reputable provider, shared accounts "should" be secure from the start, however, I've been stunned by some of the setups I've seen.

    If you move to shared, I recommend a provider using CloudLinux with the CageFS option or BetterLinux with CloakFS. Both options help to eliminate the possibility of other users viewing world readable files within your account. Running your config files at 640 or 600 is a good practice as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nilelove View Post
    In September / 18 / 2013 : I moved from Shared environment to the VPS with same provider.

    I was happy at the beginning. But by the time i recognized that i have overloaded my duties.

    - Hacker attacks.

    - Spammers.

    - Security Threats.

    - Management Duties.

    Do you think that the shared environment provides better performance ?
    It strongly depends on the provider you go with. But reseller hosting can be a lot more secure than a VPS/Dedicated. When people go for a VPS over reseller, what they often forget and what they often don't see is the amount of effort the host puts into ensuring they have a decent, stable and solid infrastructure. Spending time securing servers, patching, optimising and so much more.

    They may have a few hundred websites running on a server, so it's worthwhile for them to be taking those steps in the interest of hundreds of people.

    Whereas with a VPS/Dedicated, you have to do all of those, and even if it is managed, to some degree you still have to be involved. If you're not in the know, and don't attend to your back-end services often by securing the server, then it's a matter of time before you're affected.

    That's what's so great about reseller hosting - you can forget about all that (so long as you go with a reputable provider). You can instead just focus on growing your business instead of messing around and spending time learning how to secure your server, which is no easy task and a continuous never-ending process.
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    It depends how secure the shared provider configures their servers. With a vps you can configure all of the same security settings as the shared provider.
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    No body cares about you except you. If you can only get a dedicated server, If you can get hardware firewall too but find some body who can make it as secure as possible and spend the rest of your life on security

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    you are comparing managed shared account against unmanaged VPS, it's exactly the same as comparing bike and car, bike is cheaper to run!
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    Why did you move to a VPS? Was it because you wanted more space or to not be on a crowded shared server? If that's the reason maybe a Dedicated Hosting / Enterprise Hosting both mean the same thing.

    If you rather have a VPS to yourself, try what other people are saying and try a Managed VPS. Let them sort your VPS out for you, so it's ready for production use.

    Good luck. Overall it depends on what what is installed and how many clients are on the same server as you.

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