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Old 04-10-2003, 11:33 PM
jaschwa jaschwa is offline
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Email problem: DNS on 1 RaQ, Site on other


I just moved a customers site from one server to another and I've given the site a new IP. The site seems to come up fine.

The problem is that email doesn't work for the site. The DNS records are still hosted on the 1st server. The MX is:
mx - tabworldonline.com High www.tabworldonline.com
(This is how all my sites MX records are configured, according to Cobalt's HOW-TO's and they all work).

When I try to send a test email, this showed up in the log of the 1st server (which is also the server I use for SMTP):
Apr 10 22:15:05 www sendmail[13089]: h3B3F4N13087: to=<webmaster@tabworldonline.
com>, ctladdr=<hosting@realm-net.com> (174/100), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00
, mailer=esmtp, pri=30501, relay=www.tabworldonline.com. [216.40.214.16], dsn=5.
6.0, stat=Data format error

Nothing shows in the other server's maillog. Help?

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Old 04-12-2003, 03:32 AM
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Re: Email problem: DNS on 1 RaQ, Site on other

if you email me. I can log into your server and fix this for you

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Old 04-14-2003, 01:58 PM
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Thanks for the offer, however I would really like to learn for myself what the problem is. Maybe is noone else on WHT has any advise & after I have a chance to look over your site (I was blocked from accessing it from work).

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Old 04-15-2003, 02:53 AM
cobalt-serve cobalt-serve is offline
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can you providde me a email addresss of whcih is not working.
so i can run some tests and then i will tell you how to fix it



tabworldonline.com MX preference = 30, mail exchanger = www.tabworldonline.com
com
tabworldonline.com nameserver = ns1.realm-net.com
tabworldonline.com nameserver = ns2.realm-net.com
www.tabworldonline.com internet address = 216.40.214.16
ns1.realm-net.com internet address = 216.40.248.135
ns2.realm-net.com internet address = 216.40.248.136
>

Quote:
Originally posted by jaschwa
Thanks for the offer, however I would really like to learn for myself what the problem is. Maybe is noone else on WHT has any advise & after I have a chance to look over your site (I was blocked from accessing it from work).

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Old 04-15-2003, 09:17 AM
jaschwa jaschwa is offline
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Thanks for your help. You can send test emails to test@tabworldonline.com

There doesn't seem to be a problem sending email to that domain from other servers (like from my bellsouth.net account), but when sending from an account on the same server I get:

The original message was received at Tue, 15 Apr 2003 08:07:33 -0500
from [12.11.10.200]

----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<test@webhostingtalk.com>
(reason: 553 5.3.0 <test@webhostingtalk.com>... No such user here)

----- Transcript of session follows -----
... while talking to mail.webhostingtalk.com.:
>>> RCPT To:<test@webhostingtalk.com>
<<< 553 5.3.0 <test@webhostingtalk.com>... No such user here
550 5.1.1 <test@webhostingtalk.com>... User unknown

Reporting-MTA: dns; www.realm-net.com
Received-From-MTA: DNS; [12.11.10.200]
Arrival-Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 08:07:33 -0500

Final-Recipient: RFC822; test@webhostingtalk.com
Action: failed
Status: 5.3.0
Remote-MTA: DNS; mail.webhostingtalk.com
Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 553 5.3.0 <test@webhostingtalk.com>... No such user here
Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 08:07:37 -0500

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Old 04-15-2003, 02:32 PM
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if you have yahoo pager or MSN i can be contacted and will help you sort this out very fast. i know what the problem is already

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Old 05-05-2003, 04:14 AM
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It really is a shame that you refuse to post the answer here so others (lik eme) can benefit from it

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Old 05-05-2003, 08:46 AM
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It bugs me when people REFUSE to post the answer for the benefit of all, instead insisting to use IM programs, PMs, etc.

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Old 05-05-2003, 08:49 AM
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the most common problem with sites that email dont work is that
the email is not enabled

on Raq 3 servers make sure Web Access by Domain is ticked
on Raq 4s you will need to put the full domain without www as the mail alias.

Hope this is of help

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Old 05-05-2003, 08:53 AM
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if you get the error message of No such user here

then you can put @www.domain.com as the email alias for the main user and that will act as a catch all box.
This works on all Cobalt Servers

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Old 05-07-2003, 08:36 AM
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I appreciate the help. Both servers are configured correctly. The target email address does exist.

This problem only occurs when sending the email via my POP3 email client (MS Outlook Express). If I log into telnet and use pine to send the email from admin@realm-net.com to test@tabworldonline.com, it works OK.

I think the portion of the maillog that says "dsn=5.6.0, stat=Data format error" may be significant. Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks.

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Old 05-07-2003, 10:58 AM
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Hi

the problem seem to me like a dns issue then. if it works ok on the local server then it means that its ok with the email config but it could be the out side dns issue.

Questions

(1) do you have a Firewall
(2) is the dns on the local server
(3) is it configered ok
(4) is the default gateway set ok



Quote:
Originally posted by jaschwa
I appreciate the help. Both servers are configured correctly. The target email address does exist.

This problem only occurs when sending the email via my POP3 email client (MS Outlook Express). If I log into telnet and use pine to send the email from admin@realm-net.com to test@tabworldonline.com, it works OK.

I think the portion of the maillog that says "dsn=5.6.0, stat=Data format error" may be significant. Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks.

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