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    How to get the names & address of peoples whom still not order our server yet ?

    We are vps provider, we got one server with ubiquityservers, when we request IPs from them , they said : "The use of IP address space for the purpose of offering VPS services is considered re-sale, not internal use. As such, you'll need to re-submit the request specifying the manner of use as re-sale and providing the names and street addresses of the end users of the address space. Please re-submit your request at your convenience."

    But there are no IPs, we can't create vps , we can't sell these vps to anyone , we can't to know the IPs assign to which one since the clients place an order, so how we can get the names & address ?

    Any idea ?
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    Perhaps you're asking for too many IPs in one go? Try asking for a few, and then ask for more as you use up the existing spare ones you've got.

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    The first time we request /24 , they rejected us . So we request /26 ,but they said "If you were actually intending to use the VPS servers internally, then that would be fine, but breaking up a server into multiple VPS servers for the purpose of meeting the justification requirements is not sufficient."

    Quote Originally Posted by justcolo View Post
    Perhaps you're asking for too many IPs in one go? Try asking for a few, and then ask for more as you use up the existing spare ones you've got.
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    You can ask them to book the entire subnet on your name. Not too sure if they will allow you to do so.

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    Hmmm. This sounds like the chicken or the egg first problem. I'm not sure what to tell you, OP. I'm interested to see what others have to say though.

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    Start with smaller blocks, and work your way up instead. A /28 is small enough that it won't be too hard to fill, while not being overly inefficient due to network, gateway, broadcast addresses and possibly two router local addresses as well. You can try starting with /28's and after you have 4+ /28's, then you can start asking for /26's. Likewise, after you have 4+ /26's, you can then start asking for /24's.

    Most providers will require you to have at least 80% utilization with a number of weeks, as that is the utilization rate required by ARIN. To ask for a /24 right away, when there's no guarantee you will be utilizing 80%+ within a fixed period of time is asking for too much. Providers also need to watch out for spammers, who will often ask for large blocks under false pretenses and get the blocks blacklisted.

    Also, if you're able to fill the /28 quickly, say in 1 week, and they allow for up to 1 month for 80% utilization, you may be able to use the documentation for that /28 to show how quickly you go through IP addresses, and the provider may be more willing to allocate your larger blocks then as they'll have some actual data to go on other than just your arbitrary projections.
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    When we request /26 IPs, they said : "Before we can allocate address space to clients, we are required to verify that you have an immediate need for at least 25% of the requested IP address space. As such, we require end user information for at least 25% of the requested IP prefix. As explained, if you don't have an immediate need for at least 64 addresses, we would be happy to provide you with a smaller block, whatever you can justify 25% of. Note that you can always add more addresses later. To that end, we would need customer information for at least 25% of whatever prefix size you wish to obtain. "

    Quote Originally Posted by hhw View Post
    Start with smaller blocks, and work your way up instead. A /28 is small enough that it won't be too hard to fill, while not being overly inefficient due to network, gateway, broadcast addresses and possibly two router local addresses as well. You can try starting with /28's and after you have 4+ /28's, then you can start asking for /26's. Likewise, after you have 4+ /26's, you can then start asking for /24's.

    Most providers will require you to have at least 80% utilization with a number of weeks, as that is the utilization rate required by ARIN. To ask for a /24 right away, when there's no guarantee you will be utilizing 80%+ within a fixed period of time is asking for too much. Providers also need to watch out for spammers, who will often ask for large blocks under false pretenses and get the blocks blacklisted.

    Also, if you're able to fill the /28 quickly, say in 1 week, and they allow for up to 1 month for 80% utilization, you may be able to use the documentation for that /28 to show how quickly you go through IP addresses, and the provider may be more willing to allocate your larger blocks then as they'll have some actual data to go on other than just your arbitrary projections.
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    We can providing false information of clients, no one will discover the truth ,but we don't want do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmosteck View Post
    When we request /26 IPs, they said : "Before we can allocate address space to clients, we are required to verify that you have an immediate need for at least 25% of the requested IP address space. As such, we require end user information for at least 25% of the requested IP prefix. As explained, if you don't have an immediate need for at least 64 addresses, we would be happy to provide you with a smaller block, whatever you can justify 25% of. Note that you can always add more addresses later. To that end, we would need customer information for at least 25% of whatever prefix size you wish to obtain. "
    Well, you have three options then.

    1) Try asking if their policy is still the same for /28's as well; being a relatively small block size, they may be more relaxed than they would be for a /26.
    2) Start accepting orders. Wait for however long you feel is an acceptable amount of time for setup of the VPS'es, and then order 4x that number of IP addresses.
    3) Work with a provider that's more flexible on IP address assignments
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