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10-01-2013, 04:28 AM #1Web Hosting Guru
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Colocrossing Spam Issues
For a very long time we received many spam from vuvunews.com / vuvuplaza.com, unsubscribe while never subscribed in the first place and report such spam but colocrossing.com don't seems to care and even spamcop eventually devnulled spam reports to colocrossing.
This is however not the reason for this post because I have an interesting question.
Up to what degree is a host or datacenter co-responsible for illegal spamming?
The reason for above is that the company VUVU is based in South Africa but have two domains. vuvuplaza.com used for sending out illegal spam and hosted at colocrossing.com and their website and main domain vuvuplaza.com hosted at Internet Solutions in SA.
Internet Solutions don't want to do something because the spam is not send from their servers while colocrossing.com seems to endorse illegal spamming and ignore spam complaints.
In my view it's like ignoring and have a total disregard for the LAW yourself if you know somebody in your house act illegally.
And that just for a few bucks extra in their pocket?
On a sidenote my view is that nobody will come anywhere in the anti-spam war unless it start focusing on the source and that is the COMPANY and host, datacenter behind spam.
(As example. There are perhaps millions of people that send v i agra spam so it's almost impossible to stop, unless the maybe just a handful companies that PAY commission to such spammers or provide such products are held responsible)
I somewhere read that 95% of the worlds spam originate from less than 5% of datacenters or something to that effect. (I don't think colocrossing.com is one of them but it's possible giving their total ignorance of spam complaints hehe)Frank Coetzee
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10-01-2013, 04:31 AM #2Newbie
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We get notified of any spam complaints from Colocrossing and if we do not respond they will null the IP in question. I understand this is their standard policy.
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10-01-2013, 04:45 AM #3Web Hosting Guru
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Hmmm
I searched the forum for something similar and found the following.
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...ocrossing+spam
Seems as if colocrossing send spam themselves even while it's back in 2010 and things may changed. Perhaps that's why they don't take action against spammers (in my case anyway as I tried for over a year to stop vuvu spam)Frank Coetzee
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"I hear and I forget, I see and I remember. I do and I understand. " - Chinese Proverb
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10-01-2013, 11:27 AM #4Web Hosting Master
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Frank,
I looked at your emails that you sent our abuse department this morning at 4 AM ET and I cannot find any linkage to us. The mail does not appear to be sent from our IP space.
Also vuvuplaza.com is not hosted by us as you suggest.
Go ahead and email me at jbiloh-at-colocrossing.com if you would like to discuss further.ColoCrossing - Dedicated to Uptime
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10-01-2013, 12:01 PM #5Web Hosting Guru
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Delivery-date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 13:13:59 +0200 Received: from server3.vuvunews.com ([192.3.130.143]:47234) by venus.cyberage.biz with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from <info@server3.vuvunews.com>) id 1VQEwc-0006lR-N3 for editor@businessXXXXXX; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 13:13:59 +0200 Received: from server3.vuvunews.com (server3.vuvunews.com [192.3.130.143]) by server3.vuvunews.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336BF23E9A97 for <editor@businessXXXXXXXXXXXX>; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 15:13:44 +0400 (MSD);; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 19947
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 3
;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;143.130.3.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR
;; ANSWER SECTION:
143.130.3.192.in-addr.arpa. 57333 IN PTR server3.vuvunews.com.
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
3.192.in-addr.arpa. 44380 IN NS ns1.colocrossing.com.
3.192.in-addr.arpa. 44380 IN NS ns2.colocrossing.com.
;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns1.colocrossing.com. 1419 IN A 198.46.128.18
ns2.colocrossing.com. 1419 IN A 198.46.128.16
Internet Solutions jump to say vuvuNEWS.com is not hosted by them (but vuvuPLAZA) is
Colocrossing.com jump to say vuvuPLAZA is not hosted by them (but vuvuNEWS is)
It's the vuvunews.com s above that is hosted on colocrossing.com servers that illegally spam people or do above public visible dns and who'is records lie?Frank Coetzee
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"I hear and I forget, I see and I remember. I do and I understand. " - Chinese Proverb
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10-01-2013, 12:03 PM #6Web Hosting Master
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Last edited by Postbox; 11-30-2014 at 11:03 PM.
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10-01-2013, 12:31 PM #7Web Hosting Guru
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Vuvu spamming dating back more than one or two years but colocrossing NEVER acted on so many spamcop spam reports. No wonder that even spamcop eventually devnulled colocrossing.com reports because it seems useless to get anywhere with them.
abuse#colocrossing.com@devnull.spamcop.net
Also look at this
http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/listings...ty-servers.net
You guess it. Hosted at colocrossing.com and perhaps also owned by Colocrossing.com or it's the same place. (Same address for velocity-servers.net and colocrossing.com)
Registrant:
Velocity Servers, Inc
8469 Sheridan Drive
Buffalo, NY 14221
US
Domain Name: VELOCITY-SERVERS.NET
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Admin, Domain http://source.domaintools.com/email....;]=transparent
Velocity Servers, Inc
8185 Sheridan Drive
Buffalo, NY 14221
US
8005189716
Record expires on 25-Jan-2014.
Record created on 25-Jan-2005.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.COLOCROSSING.COM
NS2.COLOCROSSING.COM
/18 of IP space and that's *16,384* IP addresses.
http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/query/SBL196788
OrgName: ColoCrossing
OrgId: VGS-9
Address: 8469 Sheridan Drive
Address: ATTN: ARIN
City: Williamsville
StateProv: NY
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And you then really think this thread is not necessary and also that I must believe that colocrossing will act upon spammers????Frank Coetzee
SA Internet News Group cc
"I hear and I forget, I see and I remember. I do and I understand. " - Chinese Proverb
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10-01-2013, 12:36 PM #8Web Hosting Master
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Interesting thing is even the server's IP from colocrossing are listed in spam list
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10-03-2013, 04:09 AM #9Web Hosting Guru
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Jon Biloh VP Operations, ColoCrossing.com send me and email that Vuvuplaza is not on their IP space.
I replied with the following the day before yesterday but no answer, reply or action so far.
So Colocrossing deny that 192.3.130.143 is THEIR IP address space?
See below
Return-path: <info@server3.vuvunews.com>
Envelope-to: editor@businesXXXXXXXXXX
Delivery-date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 13:13:59 +0200
Received: from server3.vuvunews.com ([192.3.130.143]:47234)
by venus.cyberage.biz with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1)
(envelope-from <info@server3.vuvunews.com>)
id 1VQEwc-0006lR-N3
for editor@businessxxxxxxxxxx; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 13:13:59 +0200
Received: from server3.vuvunews.com (server3.vuvunews.com [192.3.130.143])
by server3.vuvunews.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336BF23E9A97
for <editor@businessXXXXXXX>; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 15:13:44 +0400 (MSD)
To: editor@businessXXXXXXXXXX
Subject: Eat out in your City or Treat yourself - over 200 amazing deals to choose from
Message-ID: <824584028c1894bc3401dac9a93affc0@server3.vuvunews.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 00:15:15 +0400
From: "VuvuPlaza" <info@server3.vuvunews.com>
Reply-To: info@server3.vuvunews.com
MIME-Version: 1.0Frank Coetzee
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"I hear and I forget, I see and I remember. I do and I understand. " - Chinese Proverb
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10-11-2013, 09:04 AM #10New Member
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Same issue from VuvuPlaza / VuvuNews. The targeted email address is an ADSL account address which is only used for connecting to the ADSL network via a ADSL modem.
VuvuPlaza is unable to disclose how this address was subscribed. For any South African participants in this thread, refer to ECT ACT 45 it is a criminal offense to transmit unsolicted communication. A company is required to (a) remove the recipient AND (b) disclose how the email-address was obtained - failing either of it, will can result in criminal prosecution.
My mail header below - still waiting for response from Colocrossing and ISPA:
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Return-Path: info@server5.vuvunews.com
Received: from server5.vuvunews.com ([199.21.114.232])
by as3.telkomsa.net with ESMTP; 10 Oct 2013 19:55:26 +0200
Received: from server5.vuvunews.com (server5.vuvunews.com [199.21.114.232])
by server5.vuvunews.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE5636110282
for <########@telkomsa.net>; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 22:04:22 +0400 (MSD)
Subject: NEW Jamie Oliver Steak Knives / Designer Waffle Maker / NEW Home Cooling Kit / Kids Buzz Game / and a few surprises
Message-ID: <bf305de97399ba1b507c626e313c76ee@server5.vuvunews.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 16:30:03 +0400
From: "VuvuPlaza" <info@server5.vuvunews.com>
Reply-To: info@server5.vuvunews.com
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10-11-2013, 09:28 AM #11Web Hosting Guru
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Vuva also send spam DIRECT from Internet Solutions servers but is ignore the spam complaints. I opened a case against them at ISAP and just now emailed ISPA again.
ISPA Code of Conduct Complaint COC.#657
With regards to this case the Internet SPAM Solutions client gave everybody the middle finger just like Internet Solutions and continue with their spamming.
While our addresses seems that the spamming continue with the latest spam send yesterday.
With above it’s clear they ignore the ECT act like a stopstreet and Internet SPAM Solutions thus clearly supports spamming and is in breach of both the letter and spirit of the ISPA code of conduct.
WHAT are the ISPA going to do about that??????Frank Coetzee
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"I hear and I forget, I see and I remember. I do and I understand. " - Chinese Proverb
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10-11-2013, 09:35 AM #12New Member
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10-11-2013, 10:23 AM #13Web Hosting Guru
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Return-path: <root@vuvuplaza.com>
Envelope-to: xxxxxxxxxxxnews.co.za
Delivery-date: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 08:25:52 +0200
Received: from vuvuplaza.com ([196.38.8.245]:33755 helo=iolutility02.mhs.onsite.hosting.co.za)
by xxxxxxxxxxxx with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1)
(envelope-from <root@vuvuplaza.com>)
id 1VRFsd-0000Gi-UO
for xxxxxxxxxxxnews.co.za; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 08:25:52 +0200
Received: by iolutility02.mhs.onsite.hosting.co.za (Postfix, from userid 0)
id 8F59EBC114B; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 08:25:17 +0200 (SAST)
To: XXXXXXXXXXnews.co.za
Subject: Jamie Oliver Vintage Water Glasses / Backup Battery Samsung / NEW Guess Watch Deal / Bottomless Chicken Wings / Learn SPANISH Online
X-PHP-Originating-Script: 0:email.php
From: VuvuPlaza <no-reply@vuvuplaza.com>
Reply-To: VuvuPlaza <no-reply@vuvuplaza.com>
X-Mailer: VuvuPlaza
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-Id: <20131002062517.8F59EBC114B@iolutility02.mhs.onsite.hosting.co.za>
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 08:25:17 +0200 (SAST)
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5
X-Spam-Score: -34
X-Spam-Bar: ---Return-path: <root@vuvuplaza.com>
Envelope-to: XXXXXXXXXXnews.co.za
Delivery-date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 08:18:47 +0200
Received: from vuvuplaza.com ([196.38.8.245]:32892 helo=iolutility02.mhs.onsite.hosting.co.za)
by XXXXXXXXXXX with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1)
(envelope-from <root@vuvuplaza.com>)
id 1VQWof-0006Q1-QA
for XXXXXXXXXnews.co.za; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 08:18:47 +0200
Received: by iolutility02.mhs.onsite.hosting.co.za (Postfix, from userid 0)
id D88D4BC0A34; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 08:18:16 +0200 (SAST)
host mx2346555.spe.spambox.co.za [196.38.95.213]:
550 An address in this message (at vuvunews . com) is listed on im-url.rbl.spamrl.com. Please organise removal and retry.
When you reply to this spam email, it go DIRECT to INTERNET SOLUTIONS and as can be seen above even vuvunews.com is listed on above anti-spam directory.Frank Coetzee
SA Internet News Group cc
"I hear and I forget, I see and I remember. I do and I understand. " - Chinese Proverb
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10-11-2013, 01:00 PM #14Web Hosting Master
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MagicDude4Eva that is no one of our IPs...
Frank, as I said in my personalized email to you on 10/1 (which you did not respond to our acknowledge) the IP space is SWIPed to another organization who is a web/cloud host. You should contact them as they are the abuse contact on the range. It's probably a $4/month user up to no good:
Hello,
Thank you for your email.
Please refer to the hosting company which is utilizing the IP space in question: http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-192-3-130-128-1
Regards,
Jon Biloh
VP Operations, ColoCrossing.com
Office: +1 (800) 518-9716 ext 101
Mobile: +1 (716) 949-3858
Fax: +1 (716) 335-9628ColoCrossing - Dedicated to Uptime
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10-30-2013, 05:41 PM #15Web Hosting Guru
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Yet another bundle of spam from colocrossing.com
Re: 198.46.156.56 (Administrator of network where email originates)
To: abuse@colocrossing.com (Notes)
Re: http://www.exclusivefuneral.co.za/ (Administrator of network hosting website referenced in spam)
To: abuse@colocrossing.com (Notes)
Re: http://www.exclusivefuneral.co.za/newsletter/re... (Administrator of network hosting website referenced in spam)
To: abuse@colocrossing.com (Notes)Frank Coetzee
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"I hear and I forget, I see and I remember. I do and I understand. " - Chinese Proverb
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10-30-2013, 05:53 PM #16Web Hosting Master
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Give this info to an RBL or some entity that cares, I don't think anyone here does.
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