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    How to migrate a website domain from shared hosting to VPS hosting ?

    Hi guys. I have a domain which I bought from a registrar company, and am currently using it for my website which is currently running on shared hosting through another company.

    Today I purchased a VPS host, installed Centos 6.4 on it, and now I want to move the domain's nameservers so that the domain now comes to my VPS. How do I do this ?!

    With shared hosting, it was simple. I just had to take the provider's nameservers, and use them with the host. Now I think it's more complicated. The VPS hosting I now have is also unmanaged, so the techs there aren't interested much in helping out. They said I have to set some DNS properties first, or something ?!

    I also just purchased a cPanel VPS licence, so can that help somehow ? Although cPanel still needs to be installed.

    Can someone guide me on this, or maybe link a tutorial ? I found a few tutorials, suggesting their own methods. Didn't know which one to follow, and also they were pretty old, so not sure if they were still the best method or not.

    Help .. ?

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    Once you get cPanel installed, you can use the transfer feature in WHM to transfer everything from your old account automatically. You'll need to wait for the transfer to complete and then change the DNS A-record to point to your new server.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadka View Post
    Hi guys. I have a domain which I bought from a registrar company, and am currently using it for my website which is currently running on shared hosting through another company.

    Today I purchased a VPS host, installed Centos 6.4 on it, and now I want to move the domain's nameservers so that the domain now comes to my VPS. How do I do this ?!

    With shared hosting, it was simple. I just had to take the provider's nameservers, and use them with the host. Now I think it's more complicated. The VPS hosting I now have is also unmanaged, so the techs there aren't interested much in helping out. They said I have to set some DNS properties first, or something ?!

    I also just purchased a cPanel VPS licence, so can that help somehow ? Although cPanel still needs to be installed.

    Can someone guide me on this, or maybe link a tutorial ? I found a few tutorials, suggesting their own methods. Didn't know which one to follow, and also they were pretty old, so not sure if they were still the best method or not.

    Help .. ?
    To install cPanel is simple:

    http://docs.cpanel.net/twiki/bin/vie...allationGuide/

    So I'll move the account like this:

    1. Setup hostname (like servername.newdomain.com) and ns records on your VPS. (from a newdomain.com or you can use you existing domain).
    2. Register NS records to your registrar (ns1.newdomain.com and ns2.newdomain.com).
    3. use cPanel option to copy account from another server (if your previous provider has cPanel).
    4. Change the ns records at your registrar with the new one, keep those 2 domains on the same time (like this you have no downtime, will be something else to do for databases if you have).
    5. When you'll see that your domain is propagated over the internet just remove the old account from your previous provider.

    Ask me if you want more info.

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    Doesn't cPanel require the domain to first be fully working, before cPanel can be installed ?

    https://www.buycpanel.com/requestinstall

    Have a look at point 7. Doesn't that mean I need to correctly point the domain to the new VPS location first, before installing cPanel ?

    Also, I'd like to not move anything from my previous host if possible. I'd like to install everything from fresh. I'll manually move data from my previous provider later on afterwards manually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadka View Post
    Doesn't cPanel require the domain to first be fully working, before cPanel can be installed ?

    https://www.buycpanel.com/requestinstall

    Have a look at point 7. Doesn't that mean I need to correctly point the domain to the new VPS location first, before installing cPanel ?

    Also, I'd like to not move anything from my previous host if possible. I'd like to install everything from fresh. I'll manually move data from my previous provider later on afterwards manually.
    You can add a cname for your domain (where your existing domain is):

    newserver.domain.com

    and pointed to the shared IP from your new VPS.

    But you can install with no problem and adjust things after.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadka View Post
    Doesn't cPanel require the domain to first be fully working, before cPanel can be installed ?

    https://www.buycpanel.com/requestinstall

    Do not pay for an installation all you have to do to install cPanel is from your command line:


    1. [email protected]# cd /home
    2. [email protected]# wget -N http://httpupdate.cpanel.net/latest
    3. [email protected]# sh latest

    Is it difficult to pay for?


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    I'm sorry, I re-read your earlier instructions, and still it seems a little unclear to me ..

    Let's get into a little more detail, so that you can use specific terms in your answer, so that I can relate which you're talking about where ..

    the URL's I'm giving below are dummies ..

    Let's assume that my existing hosting provider's name is tangohost.com, and my site's domain is directlink.com.sg. The new host I want to move to is viprovps.com, and the static IP of my VPS is 182.63.78.139. Also, the current nameservers listed for directlink.com.sg are ns1.tangohost.com and ns2.tangohost.com.

    And like I said, I have installed Centos 6.4 on the VPS running at IP 182.63.78.139.

    Do note that I don't want to transfer cPanel data from my old host to the new one. I want to install a fresh cPanel on my VPS, and then setup everything like databases, etc, manually, at the new location.

    So now, what steps do I follow ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowebca View Post
    Do not pay for an installation all you have to do to install cPanel is from your command line:


    1. [email protected]# cd /home
    2. [email protected]# wget -N http://httpupdate.cpanel.net/latest
    3. [email protected]# sh latest

    Is it difficult to pay for?


    Regards
    I got it from buycpanel.com, and they offer installation for free. I just have to submit a request for it, but I don't know if I should as I don't know if I meet that Requirement #7 that I pointed out earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadka View Post
    I got it from buycpanel.com, and they offer installation for free. I just have to submit a request for it, but I don't know if I should as I don't know if I meet that Requirement #7 that I pointed out earlier.
    Buy the license, install cPanel and forget about "Requirement #7".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowebca View Post
    Buy the license, install cPanel and forget about "Requirement #7".

    Regards
    Sure, that I can do. What about after installing cPanel though ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadka View Post
    I'm sorry, I re-read your earlier instructions, and still it seems a little unclear to me ..

    Let's get into a little more detail, so that you can use specific terms in your answer, so that I can relate which you're talking about where ..

    the URL's I'm giving below are dummies ..

    Let's assume that my existing hosting provider's name is tangohost.com, and my site's domain is directlink.com.sg. The new host I want to move to is viprovps.com, and the static IP of my VPS is 182.63.78.139. Also, the current nameservers listed for directlink.com.sg are ns1.tangohost.com and ns2.tangohost.com.

    And like I said, I have installed Centos 6.4 on the VPS running at IP 182.63.78.139.

    Do note that I don't want to transfer cPanel data from my old host to the new one. I want to install a fresh cPanel on my VPS, and then setup everything like databases, etc, manually, at the new location.

    So now, what steps do I follow ?
    Do it like this: (sorry I am not a good teacher, and not very social )

    1. Buy license(submit your ip:182.63.78.139)
    2. Install cPanel.
    3. Register NS records to your registrar (ns1.newdomain.com and ns2.newdomain.com)
    4. Point those NS records to new ip's
    (here is starting your case).
    5. Create a new domain (the domain that you want to move) on your new vps.
    6. Point your domain to those new NS records
    7. and after the domain will be propagated (24 -48 hours) over the internet move manually your account from your previous provider to your vps.

    Note: Like I wrote in my previous reply you can add a cname (for nameoftheserver) in your existing DNS zone (your actual provider) and pointed to the VPS ip, like this you'll have the hostname.


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    If you use cpanel, it's easy. Do a backup and then import that backup in your vps.

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    Rowebca, thanks for your help, but if you had used the sample values I had provided, it would have made your intructions easier to follow .. I'm a beginner and this is the very first I'm deploying a site on a VPS

    I've added some questions to your post below. I'm using the sample values I provided in my previous post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rowebca View Post
    Do it like this: (sorry I am not a good teacher, and not very social )

    1. Buy license(submit your ip:182.63.78.139)
    2. Install cPanel.
    3. Register NS records to your registrar (ns1.newdomain.com and ns2.newdomain.com) --> So you're saying I should ask my registrar to point directlink.com.sg towards ns1.tangohost.com and ns2.tangohost.com ?
    4. Point those NS records to new ip's --> How do I do this ?
    (here is starting your case).
    5. Create a new domain (the domain that you want to move) on your new vps. --> What exactly do you mean by 'domain' here ? The website address, directlink.com.sg ?
    6. Point your domain to those new NS records --> Again, no clue an what you're telling here
    7. and after the domain will be propagated (24 -48 hours) over the internet move manually your account from your previous provider to your vps.

    Regards
    Also, I've just finished cPanel installation. I'm not sure if it's installed properly though .. I have tried opening IP:2087, etc, but nothing opens ..

    EDIT:

    I have a feeling that there are some concepts here which I might not be aware of ... The fact that you use 'domain' so much, in different contexts too I think, makes me think this .. Is there a more details tutorial I should probably follow ?
    Last edited by ahmadka; 09-27-2013 at 06:14 PM.

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    A little update. Turns out I can open cPanel console from within the VPS, using localhost:2087 (which gets mapped to http://centos664templatebase.cs1cloud.internal:2087)

    But if I tried to access it from outside, using my VPS's static public IP:2087, it won't load .. Why is that ?

    Anyways, I've done cPanel settings, but don't know where to go from here on out. My website address still points to its old and existing shared hosting home.

    I used the following settings for setting up cPanel:

    FQDN: server.directlink.com.sg
    Resolvers:
    #1: My Provider's gateway IP
    #2: 8.8.8.8
    #3: 4.2.2.2

    Enter IP addresses step: Skipped it because I currently only have 1 IPv4 IP

    Nameserver software used: BIND

    Nameservers:
    ns1.directlink.com.sg
    ns2.directlink.com.sg

    Since I only have one IPv4 IP right now, I configured both ns1.directlink.com.sg and ns2.directlink.com.sg to point to my VPS's IPv4 IP.

    I also ticked the 'Add A Entries for Hostname' option, and entered my VPS's IPv4 IP there

    ---

    So what do I do now ? How do I get my site to point to the new VPS location ? What nameservers values do I provide to the Website Domain Registrar Company ? Do I need to my VPS providers to do anything ? Anything else I need to do ?

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    Your ip is not publicly available
    make sure you have set up your network configuration
    according to what your provider has specified or have them correct it.

    unless you just made up this IP 182.63.78.139
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    Quote Originally Posted by HostingBig View Post
    Your ip is not publicly available
    make sure you have set up your network configuration
    according to what your provider has specified or have them correct it.

    unless you just made up this IP 182.63.78.139
    Actually that's not the issue. I am able to connect to my machine via putty.

    Also, the issue is with :2087 somehow, because if I try IP/cpanel, it works. Although, IP:2087 does not work, but localhost:2087 from within the VPS works.

    That's a minor issue though.

    Given the cPanel configuration data I used (mentioned in my previous post above), how do I point the URL of my site to the new VPS location ?

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    ns1.directlink.com.sg
    ns2.directlink.com.sg

    register your name servers with your registrar to your public ip
    you only have one so use the same IP it is true its not technically correct but it will still work (most registrars will allow you to do this)

    after the name servers have propagated point your domain to
    ns1.directlink.com.sg
    ns2.directlink.com.sg

    this assumes you have all ready set up your domain in your new cpanel server
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    I'm not sure what's the difference between the first and second step that you mentioned.

    I'm assuming that in the first step, you're saying that at my registrar's system, I specify ns1.directlink.com.sg and ns2.directlink.com.sg has being the two nameservers for my website address directlink.com.sg ?

    Like this (this is the namerserver specifying menu at my registrar's site): http://i.imgur.com/x11xbk0.png ?

    But if I do this, how will the nameservers resolve to the IP ? I mean how does this translation happen: ns1.directlink.com.sg --> 182.63.78.139 (i.e. IP of my VPS) ? The internet doesn't yet know that this VPS at 182.63.78.139 is my site's new home .. How do I tell the internet that ? Don't I need to setup a reverse DNS or something somewhere ?

    In your second step, I don't know what you mean by "point your domain to" ... What's domain here ? directlink.com.sg ? If so, then isn't this the same as the first step ? i.e. point the domain('s nameservers) to ...

    Yeah I know, n00bs are a pain ..
    Last edited by ahmadka; 09-27-2013 at 08:00 PM.

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    No the first step is totally different the name servers need to be registered before you can set any domains to them.
    register your name servers with your registrar to your public ip
    ns1= 182.63.78.139
    ns2= 182.63.78.139
    the internet doesn't yet know that this VPS at 182.63.78.139 is my site's new home .. How do I tell the internet that
    That is what the step above is for


    set your domain directlink.com.sg to
    ns1.directlink.com.sg & ns2.directlink.com.sg after you do the step above

    A reverse DNS is set up by the ip block owner (your provider)
    Has nothing to do with your DNS set to your servers hostname
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    But I don't see a feature on my registrar's website which lets me first define a mapping for:

    ns1.directlink.com.sg <---> 182.63.78.139
    ns2.directlink.com.sg <---> 182.63.78.139

    All I see there is a page on which I have to define a nameserver set, like as shown in the picture here: http://i.imgur.com/x11xbk0.png

    The idea is to define such a nameserver set, and then configure my website domain to use that nameserver set.

    Even right now, the website URL uses my shared hosting provider's nameserver, ns1.tangohost.com & ns2.tangohost.com. And on my registrar's website, I only see control to define a nameserver set containing ns1.tangohost.com and ns2.tangohost.com. I do NOT see a feature here which lets me specify which IP(s) do ns1.tangohost.com and ns1.tangohost.com specifically go to ..

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    Also, please note that in my case, the registrar company is NOT the shared hosting company, OR the new VPS hosting company, in my case .. They are just a completely separate register company ..

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    you should be asking your registrar these questions as no one here knows who your registrar is
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    Quote Originally Posted by HostingBig View Post
    you should be asking your registrar these questions as no one here knows who your registrar is
    I have found a 'Glue Record' feature on their site, which looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/wr71ovY.png

    Is this what I need ? Any idea what 'Overwrite Legacy hosts' means, and if I need to check that option ?

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    ^^ Waiting for a response guys ..

    (Yeah I know I'm being impatient :p)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadka View Post
    ^^ Waiting for a response guys ..

    (Yeah I know I'm being impatient :p)
    Who is your registrar? Is your domain a top level domain (like google.com)? Usually you just have to write:

    ns1.yourdomain.com "and" 182.63.78.139


    I can't tell you what you have to do if I don't have all the information about your case.

    This process it is suppose to be extremely easy, depending on your registrar.

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    My domain is a pakistani domain, which ends in .pk, and the registrar is a semi-government company, which controls access to .pk domains. All .pk domains go through them.

    I assumed that Glue Records is what I need, and they provide a page in their interface which can be used to set Glue Records: http://i.imgur.com/wr71ovY.png

    In the above picture, I wrote my ns1 nameserver (ns1.domainhere.pk) in 'Hostname', and then filled in the fixed static IP I have from my VPS provider in the 'IP address' field. I did NOT check the 'Overwrite legacy hosts' checkbox, because I didn't know what that does. Do I need to check this option ?

    Did the same thing for ns2 (i.e. second nameserver), for which I now have a different IP, also from my VPS.

    I did this about 2-3 hours ago, but still if I try to ping either of the two nameservers (ns1.domainhere.pk & ns1.domainhere.pk) from my local Windows PC, they don't ping.

    Do I have to do anything at the VPS end, to tell them to 'receive' the ping requests, and reply ?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadka View Post
    I did this about 2-3 hours ago, but still if I try to ping either of the two nameservers (ns1.domainhere.pk & ns1.domainhere.pk) from my local Windows PC, they don't ping.
    .PK tld is a bit slow please wait for sometime it should work!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HostingOwner-SS View Post
    .PK tld is a bit slow please wait for sometime it should work!
    Thanks for your response. Not to sound impatient, but how much time are we talking about, approximately ?

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    Also, do note that mydomain.pk still currently goes to my old and existing shared hosting website, which is still online .. So if I ping mydomain.pk from my PC, it pings the shared hosting site .. .. (mydomain.pk is an example here) ..

    So won't that cause I problem, when I ping ns1.mydomain.pk ? I mean, the ping request will first resolve the mydomain.pk, which points to my shared hosting provider/site, and then it figures out its nameservers, which are the nameservers of my shared hosting provider, and then it tries to resolve ns1.mydomain.pk, which it won't find defined anywhere there at all, since ns1.mydomain.pk is something I've defined all on my own, on my new VPS .. ?

    I hope you understand my concern .. If mydomain.pk still goes to my older and still online shared hosting site, how can I expect ns1.mydomain.pk to point to my newly created VPS IPs ?

    Or will it still workout somehow ?

    Do I need to take my older site offline ? I have no problem in doing that if needed, but I wanted to keep it online too if possible, so that there's no (or minimal) downtime ..

    ?
    Last edited by ahmadka; 09-28-2013 at 10:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadka View Post
    Thanks for your response. Not to sound impatient, but how much time are we talking about, approximately ?
    It can be 12 hrs to max 48 hrs sometimes it worked out within few hrs depends on your ISP Location.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HostingOwner-SS View Post
    It can be 12 hrs to max 48 hrs sometimes it worked out within few hrs depends on your ISP Location.
    Alright thanks.

    But what about the second issue I just posted above seconds ago ? Won't that be a problem ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadka View Post
    Also, do note that mydomain.pk still currently goes to my old and existing shared hosting website, which is still online .. So if I ping mydomain.pk from my PC, it pings the shared hosting site .. .. (mydomain.pk is an example here) ..

    So won't that cause I problem, when I ping ns1.mydomain.pk ? I mean, the ping request will first resolve the mydomain.pk, which points to my shared hosting provider/site, and then it figures out its nameservers, which are the nameservers of my shared hosting provider, and then it tries to resolve ns1.mydomain.pk, which it won't find defined anywhere there at all, since ns1.mydomain.pk is something I've defined all on my own, on my new VPS .. ?

    I hope you understand my concern .. If mydomain.pk still goes to my older and still online shared hosting site, how can I expect ns1.mydomain.pk to point to my newly created VPS IPs ?

    Or will it still workout somehow ?

    Do I need to take my older site offline ? I have no problem in doing that if needed, but I wanted to keep it online too if possible, so that there's no (or minimal) downtime ..

    ?
    Just simple answer, If your all configurations are completed within VPS like (dns setup, adding A records etc..) and PkNic DNS setup like you mentioned in earlier posts.

    Then don't worry once your new DNS start working then just move your website to new VPS and change DNS for your domain.

    I hope this helps
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    Quote Originally Posted by HostingOwner-SS View Post
    Just simple answer, If your all configurations are completed within VPS like (dns setup, adding A records etc..) and PkNic DNS setup like you mentioned in earlier posts.

    Then don't worry once your new DNS start working then just move your website to new VPS and change DNS for your domain.

    I hope this helps
    Thanks. Those VPS settings which you referred to, they're the ones setup during cPanel initial setup wizard, right ? Because so far I haven't configured anything else on my VPS at all.

    Have a quick look at the cPanel settings I used, mentioned below. Are they correct ?

    My main concern is the FQDN I used. Does it (server.mydomain.pk) need to point to anything) ?

    I also got an automated mail from my cPanel (a few hours after completing the initial setup wizard), saying that server.mydomain.pk is not accessible.

    Settings used during cPanel setup:

    FQDN: server.mydomain.pk

    Resolvers:
    #1: My Provider's gateway IP
    #2: 8.8.8.8
    #3: 4.2.2.2

    Enter IP addresses step: Skipped it because currently I only want to run cPanel on the 1 main IP I have

    Nameserver software used: BIND

    Nameservers:

    ns1.mydomain.pk (pointing to first, main IP)
    ns2.mydomain.pk (point to a second IP I now also have)

    'Add A Entries for Hostname' option checked for both nameserver entries.

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    @OP:
    Take services of a webmaster, and forget about all complexities.
    There are many on WHT offering their services.
    You can get all this done for very less like 50$.
    If you want to learn all this then its a different matter though.
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    No I want to learn. I'm a techy guy by nature, always have been. I've dealt with hosting, and VPS and VPNs, etc. before. Its just that VPS based website hosting with cPanel is a first for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadka View Post
    No I want to learn. I'm a techy guy by nature, always have been. I've dealt with hosting, and VPS and VPNs, etc. before. Its just that VPS based website hosting with cPanel is a first for me.
    If you will have only a single site on this vps then cpanel license is an overkill. I will wait for your answer whether my assumption is true?
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    Quote Originally Posted by qtriangle View Post
    If you will have only a single site on this vps then cpanel license is an overkill. I will wait for your answer whether my assumption is true?
    Yes its only one site, and yeah I agree it probably an overkill, but I just got it because my shared hosting provider had it, and I thought having it again here will ease the move from shared hosting to VPS hosting .. Because I was using things like setting up email accounts, mysql databases, etc. on my shared hosting account ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadka View Post
    Yes its only one site, and yeah I agree it probably an overkill, but I just got it because my shared hosting provider had it, and I thought having it again here will ease the move from shared hosting to VPS hosting .. Because I was using things like setting up email accounts, mysql databases, etc. on my shared hosting account ..
    In that case you have the option to save few dollars every month.
    Suggestion from me: pull all your emails using pop, and setup a free panel like kloxo or webmin, in which case migrating mysql is also very easy. It is just a phpmyadmin export-import.
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    Quote Originally Posted by qtriangle View Post
    In that case you have the option to save few dollars every month.
    Suggestion from me: pull all your emails using pop, and setup a free panel like kloxo or webmin, in which case migrating mysql is also very easy. It is just a phpmyadmin export-import.
    I think you're right there, but I've heard that cPanel is more reliable, safe and robust than other free panels. Also, generally speaking, commercial options are normally more reliable than free options ..

    So I guess I'll go with cPanel for now, and maybe once I get the ball rolling, I'll try to ditch it and move to a more suitable solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadka View Post
    I think you're right there, but I've heard that cPanel is more reliable, safe and robust than other free panels. Also, generally speaking, commercial options are normally more reliable than free options ..

    So I guess I'll go with cPanel for now, and maybe once I get the ball rolling, I'll try to ditch it and move to a more suitable solution.
    Yes no doubt cpanel is the best if you can easily pay for it.
    You will get support from cpanel if it is due to their product issue.
    Not sure that it is most secure though.
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