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Old 02-27-2003, 08:00 AM
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Warning: xAvia. Run by a bunch of snotty teenagers.


(Apologies for text formatting, but I c&pd straight out of outlook express)

This is a letter I sent to Mr. Joshua Brown after I was removed from the =
company at 11:30 on Thursday 25th of December, during a staff meeting. =
Maybe it will enlighten you to how much of a jerk and fraudster Josh =
really is.

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Josh -
I'm really quite shocked at you. After all that work I put into SBY and =
xAvia, you just go and sack me in cold blood? Yes, I was pissed and I =
said some bad things, but you are not one to judge me after your =
performance over the past few days. You are slowly losing customers =
instead of gaining, and are making cuts to your already dwindeling =
staff. The fact you sacked David because he was a christian is just =
plain creedist, and above all - evil. Someone like him should be =
commended for standing up to the evils of pornography, and not sacked.
It's quite obvious you crumble under the slightest pressure, and by =
sacking me, you have just put a whole tonne of pressure back onto your =
shoulders. I asked very little of you, infact the only thing I ever =
asked for was the satellite connection, which I was denied, and =
understood fully. I did all that work for you, for free and expected =
nothing in return, you just used me as you did David and Ian. You cannot =
pass judgement and sack someone who was working for free. Free services =
are hard to come by, and you will regret sacking me, as it's even harder =
to find employee who offer services for free, and actually do the work. =
Even to the standard I do them. I always conducted myself in a =
professional manner, and got along with all of the staff and customers. =
I didn't involve myself with trivial things such as WHT, which you =
should ignore completely. I only ever had respect for you, and you think =
it is your god-given right to shove it all back in my face?=20
I expected nothing from you, and was only met with pressure and grief. I =
was always there to give you my assistance and alternate ideas, =
something you are quite jealous of.
And yet, after all that good I have given, you expect me to apologise =
after I vented my feelings about how the company was being run, and =
other peoples judgement of my attitude. I had a right to an attitude =
there, just as everyone has. Don't expect me to be the perfect =
professional all the time, when you yourself couldn't handle it for half =
the time I did.
I could write down a hundred things that would embarrass you and make =
you look childish, but instead I respected you for what you claimed to =
be doing: Saving your life from a deadly disease, and helping your =
parents out of a $40,000 debt. This is becoming more apparent to be a =
lie and a joke.
And something really, really important is the fact you lied to everyone =
about your age. You claim to be 25, when you are actually only 15 years =
of age, as you neglected to tell me until I was promoted to the =
executive staff. Now, I think I think for eveyone when I write most =
people who you provide services to, would rather not be served by some =
snotty, 15 year old high-school student, who is currently being =
completely controlled by his hormones.
And feel happy your Grandfather is still around, may he be on the floor =
or not, as mine died a year ago to this very day. Don't use others =
mis-fortune to make others feel sorry for you, that is just petty.
You are also quite merry to accept payment of large amounts of cash from =
a Mr. Mike O'Neill, who has received this money from social security, =
which he should legally be using to buy food and essentials.
Another notable thing, is you make posts of www.webhostingtalk.com about
customers. I am shocked you don't even consider your promises to the =
customer worth keeping, you say that you will keep all their information =
private, yet you post things about them which DONOT concern you in any =
way. Things like a customers fake vB licence doesn't compromise you in =
any way, so why blatently lie and break your promise? Amusement? Need I remind you when a customer buys one of your plans, both he and you sign a legal agreement, and you have broken that several times.
-James.



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Old 02-27-2003, 09:57 AM
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Hi.

Good letter matey!

Would you like to be hired as cheif letter writer?

Only joking!

Good on ya for making ya feelings known..

Cheers

Al

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Old 02-27-2003, 10:13 AM
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I don't quite see where we are heading with this.

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Old 02-27-2003, 10:24 AM
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This is one side of a saga, posting a letter here will not help you if you don't provide any evidence to back up claims.

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Old 02-27-2003, 10:39 AM
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This is one side of a saga, posting a letter here will not help you if you don't provide any evidence to back up claims.
I agree, its nice that you stood up and wrote that letter. But none of us know about what went on, and we cant really judge a host based on one opinion. There's to much of that going on already.

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Old 02-27-2003, 12:08 PM
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Yes - despite my like of your letter - I also cannot see much evidence!

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Old 02-27-2003, 01:45 PM
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I can understand you being mad but don't discriminate against other teenagers.

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Old 02-27-2003, 03:29 PM
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James, your upset, but threating us with suicide and stuff and having intentions to smear xavia's name all over WHT, its extremly childish and I mean childish.

You remember me? You may not know my name on WHT but does tha name Ron ring a bell? Since you drug our name through the mud, I wont do it to yours but in our defense I think some things should be said.

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The fact you sacked David because he was a christian is just =
plain creedist, and above all - evil. Someone like him should be =
commended for standing up to the evils of pornography, and not sacked
David wanted out, at his own request. Josh did not sack him. He did not want any part of a host who had any type of pornagraphy on it. However, we cannot keep tabs on every user on the server, but that is besides the point. So he wanted off the server and moved to another company.

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I asked very little of you, infact the only thing I ever =
asked for was the satellite connection, which I was denied, and =
understood fully
Some of us put in more then you do and don't ask for nothing at all. And some of us like me, have been there since day one, but im not bitching or complaining. Im happy with what I am doing and do 3x more then you have. Writing up some PR stuff or some 10 page paragraph is not a lot of work.

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I did all that work for you, for free and expected =
nothing in return
Really? You just asked for a 600 dollar satelite system. And I believe the story goes, you wanted us to pay for it too.

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I could write down a hundred things that would embarrass you and make you look childish, but instead I respected you for what you claimed to be doing: Saving your life from a deadly disease, and helping your parents out of a $40,000 debt. This is becoming more apparent to be a lie and a joke
That would just prove your immaturity and how childish you are. Remember your age? Or should I tell everyone else to?

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You are also quite merry to accept payment of large amounts of cash from a Mr. Mike O'Neill
What Mike does for the company is really no concern with anyone else. I dont even discuss financial material with them so it doesnt concern me either but they have purchased me a cell phone in which, in another month I am getting some more stuff from them to as compensation.

All in all xavia has been good to me. Now im 25 years old. I work with people of all ages regardless of good or bad they go through but does anyone know that last night... you replaced your domain webpage with a suicide note? You threatend us with "leave my site up there or I am going to hack xavia and tell everyone the truth" Its apparent that you are a disturbed person and need help. As many times in the past whenever you have disagreed with someone, even me, have tried to talk to you but you blow up at them and refuse to discuss anything. We did take your suicide threats down and you need to seek help. Ending your life just because some company got rid of you for incompetence, is no way to go out.

I dont really feel WHT is the place to do this sort of stuff, but when everyone drags out name out because they were disatisfied, is fine, everyone has a right to do what they want, but what you do james is uncalled for and if you think that whining on WHT is going to give you any justice, it wont. Its rediculas. If you want to continue this battle, do so in IMs, Email or somewhere else, but dont drag our name through the mud with blantant lies.

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Old 02-27-2003, 03:31 PM
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Yawwwwwwwwwwwwnnnn.....


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Old 02-27-2003, 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by DigiCrime
James, your upset, but threating us with suicide and stuff and having intentions to smear xavia's name all over WHT, its extremly childish and I mean childish.

You remember me? You may not know my name on WHT but does tha name Ron ring a bell? Since you drug our name through the mud, I wont do it to yours but in our defense I think some things should be said.



David wanted out, at his own request. Josh did not sack him. He did not want any part of a host who had any type of pornagraphy on it. However, we cannot keep tabs on every user on the server, but that is besides the point. So he wanted off the server and moved to another company.



Some of us put in more then you do and don't ask for nothing at all. And some of us like me, have been there since day one, but im not bitching or complaining. Im happy with what I am doing and do 3x more then you have. Writing up some PR stuff or some 10 page paragraph is not a lot of work.



Really? You just asked for a 600 dollar satelite system. And I believe the story goes, you wanted us to pay for it too.



That would just prove your immaturity and how childish you are. Remember your age? Or should I tell everyone else to?



What Mike does for the company is really no concern with anyone else. I dont even discuss financial material with them so it doesnt concern me either but they have purchased me a cell phone in which, in another month I am getting some more stuff from them to as compensation.

All in all xavia has been good to me. Now im 25 years old. I work with people of all ages regardless of good or bad they go through but does anyone know that last night... you replaced your domain webpage with a suicide note? You threatend us with "leave my site up there or I am going to hack xavia and tell everyone the truth" Its apparent that you are a disturbed person and need help. As many times in the past whenever you have disagreed with someone, even me, have tried to talk to you but you blow up at them and refuse to discuss anything. We did take your suicide threats down and you need to seek help. Ending your life just because some company got rid of you for incompetence, is no way to go out.

I dont really feel WHT is the place to do this sort of stuff, but when everyone drags out name out because they were disatisfied, is fine, everyone has a right to do what they want, but what you do james is uncalled for and if you think that whining on WHT is going to give you any justice, it wont. Its rediculas. If you want to continue this battle, do so in IMs, Email or somewhere else, but dont drag our name through the mud with blantant lies.
OUCH

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Old 02-27-2003, 03:42 PM
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This is pathetic, you're all being childish and it would be a lot better if you dealt with this off WHT. I cannot believe you actually have hostees which put up with your clear staffing issues.

I still fail to see why he make making staffing cuts when everyone is apparently working for free.

Looks like a big game from where i'm standing and I just hope your customers aren't throwing large amount of money at whatever company it is you run.

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Old 02-27-2003, 04:07 PM
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This will be the only response i make:

James, you've hurt this company, your threats last night made us doing a lot of running around. Our customers are very faithful in our services, and most agreed with all the actions we took. We as well did not ask you to bring this to WHT, we all tried to talk with you, but you as usual wanted attention, and hoped that this would get you some. Well it did, but im afraid your false allegations, are no match for the facts that we have.

Thank you,
Josh


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Old 02-27-2003, 04:15 PM
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Sounds more like a "Clan War" then a Hosting business....

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Old 02-27-2003, 05:14 PM
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Old 02-27-2003, 05:27 PM
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This is an absolutely ridiculous thread. This feels like the Jerry Springer of forums.

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