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Old 07-09-2012, 08:41 AM
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Average Price Range -- Colo Rack Space


Lets assume you need 1/2 Cabinet of Rack space along with 1/Gig
of Internet Access from a Tier 1 ISP which will route IP space
you've obtained from ARIN directly. What would you estimate is
the general price range to meet these requirements?

I guess what I'm looking for is the cost of Cabinet space and
internet access pricing. NOTE: That when I say Internet Access,
I mean directly to an ISP that will allow BGP routing and not
the 5 or 10 IP addresses some reseller might lease to you.



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Old 07-09-2012, 09:20 AM
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1/2 cabinet space won't cost you much at all. The Internet access will depend on the carrier you choose. Get a lot of quotes because prices can different drastically - like some being 2x or more than others. Also though consider both the uptime and quality of the provider's connection.

Note that power, which you haven't mentioned, could very likely be the largest portion of your total costs. Redundant A/B power circuit pricing have *really* climbed in recent years.

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Old 07-09-2012, 10:06 AM
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1/2 cabinet space won't cost you much at all. The Internet access will depend on the carrier you choose. Get a lot of quotes because prices can different drastically - like some being 2x or more than others. Also though consider both the uptime and quality of the provider's connection.

Note that power, which you haven't mentioned, could very likely be the largest portion of your total costs. Redundant A/B power circuit pricing have *really* climbed in recent years.


Why not put a UPS in the rack and save on buying redundant power?

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Old 07-09-2012, 10:11 AM
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UPS' have very limited run times so that increases your exposure to issues with more than a few minutes of power outage. Also, you may need to invest quite a lot in UPS' depending on your draw - quite likely multiple UPS' per rack.

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Old 07-09-2012, 10:15 AM
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Where is it located? That could vary the average prices of the racks as well and the features within the data center.

If there is 24x7 support/monitoring/security etc, generators... A lot of varying factors.

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Old 07-09-2012, 10:18 AM
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UPS' have very limited run times so that increases your exposure to issues with more than a few minutes of power outage. Also, you may need to invest quite a lot in UPS' depending on your draw - quite likely multiple UPS' per rack.


It makes you wonder if buying colo space is worth it. Seems like
a better alternative might be to buy a plot of land, put a trailer
on it with a gas powered generator, and call it a day.

I suppose the only issue with that plan is the ability to obtain
high speed internet access. I suppose a plot near a telco CO might
be the best option.

Cheap Land. Cheap Power. Become your own Data Center.

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Old 07-09-2012, 10:57 AM
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Why on earth would you be providing your own UPS's when a "proper" datacentre will do this all for you, in an N+1 or greater configuration?

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Old 07-09-2012, 11:01 AM
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Why on earth would you be providing your own UPS's when a "proper" datacentre will do this all for you, in an N+1 or greater configuration?
Just seeing if being cheap is cheaper.

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Old 07-09-2012, 11:03 AM
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Just seeing if being cheap is cheaper.
What does this even mean?

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Lets assume you need 1/2 Cabinet of Rack space along with 1/Gig
of Internet Access from a Tier 1 ISP which will route IP space
you've obtained from ARIN directly
A 1Gb/s CDR will vary in price depending on the provider - if sticking only to Tier-1's expect anything from 75c/Mbs to 10$/Mbs

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Old 07-09-2012, 11:18 AM
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What does this even mean?


....just pondering if racking up a UPS would be cheaper than
buying redundant power in the data center. But then the issue
boils down to time. Will the center's power come back before
the UPS dies?

In the end, its risk equation. Aren't most data centers located
right off the main transmission lines from the power company?
What are the odds of an outage? Better yet, who can testify to
being colo'd at a data center in which the power has gone out
for hours on end and how often has that happened?

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Old 07-09-2012, 11:40 AM
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....just pondering if racking up a UPS would be cheaper than
buying redundant power in the data center. But then the issue
boils down to time. Will the center's power come back before
the UPS dies?
If the DC has a UPS they may not allow you to install one...

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Old 07-09-2012, 01:39 PM
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Why not put a UPS in the rack and save on buying redundant power?
Redundant power is more than just battery power. A true redundant power will save you in case the power supply goes out, the in-cabinet PDU fails, the RPP/PDU fails, the UPS fails, the ATS fails, etc. With an in-cabinet UPS, you still face the above risks. Redundant power removes a lot of single points of failures. If your service is mission critical, it is worth paying for.

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Old 07-09-2012, 01:59 PM
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A 1Gb/s CDR will vary in price depending on the provider - if sticking only to Tier-1's expect anything from 75c/Mbs to 10$/Mbs
I would not know a Tier-1 that charges only $0,75 / mbps on a 1 Gbps CDR. Maybe you can list some ?

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Old 07-09-2012, 02:25 PM
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Redundant power is more than just battery power. A true redundant power will save you in case the power supply goes out, the in-cabinet PDU fails, the RPP/PDU fails, the UPS fails, the ATS fails, etc. With an in-cabinet UPS, you still face the above risks. Redundant power removes a lot of single points of failures. If your service is mission critical, it is worth paying for.
if the datacenter lost power, would the net connection go down anyway when their router fails?

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