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[LeetGN]

So I've been looking to get a full cabinet, asked around a few data centers but it seems that they want to charge too much for power upgrade's ex: they only give you roughly three amps for a quarter cab if you need more than that you need to upgrade to a full cab.. $300/hr for remote hands which other companies in their DC has $110/hr for remote hands. My question is how do I get them to go down on price?

[JonBiloh]

What location are you looking for? The market varies widely based on that factor.

[KnownHost-Jonathan]

Originally Posted by LeetGN

So I've been looking to get a full cabinet, asked around a few data centers but it seems that they want to charge too much for power upgrade's ex: they only give you roughly three amps for a quarter cab if you need more than that you need to upgrade to a full cab.. $300/hr for remote hands which other companies in their DC has $110/hr for remote hands. My question is how do I get them to go down on price?

Why not go with one of the other companies, if getting in that particular DC is your goal?

[BBGN Brian]

Originally Posted by JonBiloh

What location are you looking for? The market varies widely based on that factor.

Originally Posted by LeetGN

So I've been looking to get a full cabinet, asked around a few data centers but it seems that they want to charge too much for power upgrade's ex: they only give you roughly three amps for a quarter cab if you need more than that you need to upgrade to a full cab.. $300/hr for remote hands which other companies in their DC has $110/hr for remote hands. My question is how do I get them to go down on price?

Just as mentioned above, each market/location will have the biggest pricing factor. Some facilities base their price on power and some base their price on space available. It has been my experience that the data centers that charge $200-$300 or more for hands and eyes (on site service) usually do not have a technician at the data center facility - they dispatch from another location or even their homes at night. That isn't a bad thing, you just have to know that up front.

[JonBiloh]

If you're at a facility which focuses on the super-enterprise then $250/hour+ is the norm. However, there are some datacenters that really push their support services as a selling point (where their infrastructure is still A+, but they treat hands as a primary value component instead of an afterthought, ie: Equinix). Once you give us some more information on your needs we can offer a suggestion or two.

[LeetGN]

I was looking at Sever central/Voxel.

[eoreality-robby]

+1 for ColoCrossing.com - definitely give them a look!

[cartika-andrew]

as others have said, pricing and power density will vary greatly. Remote hands cost and quality of remote hands also varies greatly.

[Cookiesowns]

Colocrossing has space in ServerCentral. Might as well just go with them. Since you're a gaming host, right?

[LeetGN]

We just do dedicated servers now, though we might be looking to host gaming communities on our servers. But for our dedicated server customers we're looking to offer IPMI and KVM over IP anyone give suggestions on this topic?

We've looked at the reviews on Colocrossing which were not really good.

[funkywizard]

Most of these factors are negotiable such as remote hands etc. The fact is for a quarter cab most colo's don't consider that their focus. It's just enough to be worth their time, but not enough where they'll really try to be price competitive. Nonetheless, thing like some kind of remote hands being included, or the pricing of remote hands being lower, or some included bandwidth etc, those are usually negotiable items, especially once you're using a little more than a quarter cab.

In terms of power, 3a max for a quarter cab is definitely low, as that implies 12a for a full cab if you follow my math. Given that a 15a circuit has 12a "usable", it would seem they just run a 15a (or maybe 20a) circuit to a cab, split it up into 4, and call that a quarter cab (my best guess on this). It's pretty typical that providers will allow only up to 40a 120v in a single cabinet, but if a provider won't allow at least that much in a cab, that's a really low power density and you stand little chance of filling the rack with equipment.

[leckley]

Originally Posted by funkywizard

Most of these factors are negotiable such as remote hands etc. The fact is for a quarter cab most colo's don't consider that their focus. It's just enough to be worth their time, but not enough where they'll really try to be price competitive. Nonetheless, thing like some kind of remote hands being included, or the pricing of remote hands being lower, or some included bandwidth etc, those are usually negotiable items, especially once you're using a little more than a quarter cab.

In terms of power, 3a max for a quarter cab is definitely low, as that implies 12a for a full cab if you follow my math. Given that a 15a circuit has 12a "usable", it would seem they just run a 15a (or maybe 20a) circuit to a cab, split it up into 4, and call that a quarter cab (my best guess on this). It's pretty typical that providers will allow only up to 40a 120v in a single cabinet, but if a provider won't allow at least that much in a cab, that's a really low power density and you stand little chance of filling the rack with equipment.

One thing to add to this, keep in mind if they are offering you 120v or 208/220v - it will make a difference on your per amp usage.

[SamBarrow]

Never gotten an offer for a quarter cab with 3 amps, that's useless. Got a location preference?

Some companies offer specific services at flat fees. For example disk swap for $25, RAM swap for $50, etc. ColoUnlimited and QuadraNet come to mind, I have servers at both and am very happy.

[Vee-DediDirect]

You should look at all the reviews for ColoCrossing and see if you really want to deal with them. I would look somewhere such as Colo@, they have good rates and RH I believe is only $80/hour. You can also look at ColoUnlimited/CoreXchange, their RH fee should also be $80/hour and only $25 for hardware replacement. Just look through the Colo advertising section and you'll find a lot

[The Broadband Man]

For Chicago and New York - can probably just go with Steadfast
For Dallas - can email reyner@gipnetworks.com - fantastic guy. Or go with colo4dallas

Power and space rates will vary by location - and there's lots of room for variance.

Don't know about colocrossing though they seem to have many supporters on here whenever someone posts about them