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[albatroz]

I am in a situation that makes me think of moving my WHM/CPanel accounts from a typical RAID Virtuozzo based configuration to a fault tolerant cloud infraestructure. I have seem very interesting offers from eapps.com of around $70/month.

It is quite competitive to the prices I am currently paying. Also if they can avoid me 5-8 hours of downtime when a RAID failure happens.
Do you know of any similar offerings?

[b4uindia]

If you are looking for cloud infra with cpanel/whm I will recommend you check with liquidweb.com packages as well.

[albatroz]

Hi!
I don´t see any reference to cloud infraestructure on liquidweb.com

[b4uindia]

They have cloud servers in name of Smart Servers
visit http://www.liquidweb.com/SmartServers/

[albatroz]

The Smart VPS option looks interesting!
Specially now that I am short of cash.

Do they really use Cloud infraestructure for storage?

[aky007]

Originally Posted by albatroz

The Smart VPS option looks interesting!
Specially now that I am short of cash.

Do they really use Cloud infraestructure for storage?

No.

They don't use SAN for their smart server. But it will provide performance I/O.

Depend on what you need~ Failover Healing Server or Scalable Performance Server~

[dediserve]

I guess it depends on what kind of fault tolerance, and HA / as well as control you need.

From your first post, it looks like you want 'true' cloud abstraction where you can just focus on your business and not worry about raid, servers or the hardware side of things.

[top hosting]

Originally Posted by albatroz

I am in a situation that makes me think of moving my WHM/CPanel accounts from a typical RAID Virtuozzo based configuration to a fault tolerant cloud infraestructure. I have seem very interesting offers from eapps.com of around $70/month.

It is quite competitive to the prices I am currently paying. Also if they can avoid me 5-8 hours of downtime when a RAID failure happens.
Do you know of any similar offerings?

For your requirement, you can try sitecloud.com

[aky007]

Originally Posted by top hosting

For your requirement, you can try sitecloud.com

Why you suggest them?

Is it because the RAID-10 Storage ?

[albatroz]

I want to avoid future RAID disasters like the one I suffered recently.
The RAID card of the machine that hosted twoo of my VPS died and the provider says it can´t make the array work again.

I suffered a similar issue with another company 7 years ago on Christmas Holiday and this new issue happened on my Parent's Aniversary.

Originally Posted by dediserve

I guess it depends on what kind of fault tolerance, and HA / as well as control you need.

From your first post, it looks like you want 'true' cloud abstraction where you can just focus on your business and not worry about raid, servers or the hardware side of things.

[digitalOcean]

Hey Albatroz,

It sounds like you may be reacting to the wrong root cause. RAID card failures are not very common, and typically a good provider should have spare cards available on site for a quick replacement.

Also even with the provider you mentioned eApps - they are essentially running a RAID in the background on their SAN system to provide the fault tolerance. If their RAID fails then the entire system is offline.

I would look for stability and previous customer experiences before choosing a provider, and not necessarily change the technology stack that you run on.

[albatroz]

I plan to test eApps very soon with a customer that needs a Java environment for a corporate website.
However I am still not sure it if is the best for my hosting environment.
For my case I believe I will need a more specialized company like Servint or Liquidweb.

I have starting to create a rule.
Change servers every 3-4 years in average either from the same company or a to a different one.
This way I will always be running on relative new and stable hardware.

[digitalOcean]

I agree with you if you're using a dedicated server, then you definitely want to be in touch with your provider after 3 years and consider moving to a new server. Failure rates are very high in the first 60 days, and after 3-5 years.

In general if you are looking for high availability I think that a cloud or virtual service will deliver that better than a dedicated server. For instance backups and snapshots are available with most cloud providers. If the provider does it well the backup is stored separately from the production storage system.

In other words, if your server is affected by an outage, but you have backups/snapshots enabled - you can quickly restore to a different virtual server from that provider. This way you have the first line of high availability in the fail over system the provider is using and you have second line of availability by storing the backup/snapshot in case of total failure.

Even better if you can download the backup/snapshot to your own computer and away from the provider that gives you the most redundancy, in case of total provider failure you can then use that backup/snapshot to restore to a different provider.

The problem with a single dedicated server, especially one that is a few years old is that hardware parts are less available, and any failure is localized just to you. In a cloud environment a failure will affect only 1 physical server, and if the provider is doing a good job they can automatically move your virtual server to a different physical server, so you don't need to wait for the hardware to be recovered.

I dont have any direct experience with eApps but have seen them mentioned a few times.

[albatroz]

The problem is that when you run into problems and ask those backups
they say that they are only for THEIR emergencies, that can´t recover individual cases, or like in my case that it will take 3 days to restore everything.

[dediserve]

Wierd! On a cloud you can have multiple snapshots you can roll back to in minutes...