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Old 05-17-2012, 02:27 PM
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speed of burstable ram


Hi,

My provider told me that
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the system emulates the sped of an HDD for burstable ram
and that
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it limits access to bring you back to the guaranteed ram
. I think this is bullsh... can anyone confirm?

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Old 05-17-2012, 02:32 PM
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It sounds like they're talking about swap but they have no idea what they mean.

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Old 05-17-2012, 02:54 PM
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Are those direct quotes?

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Old 05-17-2012, 03:05 PM
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I've translated the quotes so good as my English knowledge allows me. The quotes are originally in Spanish.

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Old 05-17-2012, 03:21 PM
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Please, post it in Spanish and I'll translate it to English for you.

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Old 05-17-2012, 03:40 PM
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el sistema emula la velocidad de un disco rígido para la memoria burstable, además. limita accesos para llevarte nuevamente al mínimo garantizado
this was the message

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Old 05-17-2012, 03:40 PM
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Hi,

My provider told me that and that . I think this is bullsh... can anyone confirm?

That is correct. Most burstable ram is simply virtual ram on a hardd-rive it can only go as fast as the hard-drive and with everyone using it, it's not that fast. That being said, some providers actually give you more ram for short bursts. That is not common though.

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Old 05-17-2012, 03:48 PM
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That is correct. Most burstable ram is simply virtual ram on a hardd-rive it can only go as fast as the hard-drive and with everyone using it, it's not that fast. That being said, some providers actually give you more ram for short bursts. That is not common though.

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No, actually that is not true.

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Old 05-17-2012, 03:58 PM
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No, actually that is not true.
Where are they getting this information?!

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Old 05-17-2012, 04:12 PM
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That is correct. Most burstable ram is simply virtual ram on a hardd-rive
Its not supposed to be. It supposed to just let you spike higher than what is guaranteed, if the resource available. If its ram that is guaranteed then its ram that provided during the spike, not emulated ram such as a swap file. If you use up the guaranteed and there is not burstable available then it will go to swap file like systems normally do when no ram available

In my opinion, one should just ignore the burstable feature since you cannot count on the burstable allotment to be available when you need it.


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Old 05-17-2012, 04:15 PM
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Its not supposed to be. It supposed to just let you spike higher than what is guaranteed, if the resource available. If its ram that is guaranteed then its ram that provided during the spike, not emulated ram such as a swap file.

In my opinion, one should just ignore the burstable feature since you cannot count on the burstable allotment to be available when you need it.
I don't want to sound like a broken record but the following thread will respond to popular misconceptions about what burst RAM is.

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1144691

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Old 05-17-2012, 04:45 PM
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Orien: I read that post and I came to the conclusion that there is no difference in speed between guaranteed and burstable. But my provider told me that, in fact, there is a big difference in speed. I think he is wrong, but I wanted to hear other opinions.

Collabora: I think that when there is an Out Of Memory situation, any VPS on the node will run slow because of the high I/O load and I don't want to be on that node...despite I'll still have the guaranteed RAM.

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Old 05-17-2012, 04:47 PM
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Orien: I read that post and I came to the conclusion that there is no difference in speed between guaranteed and burstable. But my provider told me that, in fact, there is a big difference in speed. I think he is wrong, but I wanted to hear other opinions.

Collabora: I think that when there is an Out Of Memory situation, any VPS on the node will run slow because of the high I/O load and I don't want to be on that node...despite I'll still have the guaranteed RAM.
You are correct. There is no difference between guaranteed and burstable RAM because they are the same thing really.

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Old 05-17-2012, 04:50 PM
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Just curious, who's the provider?

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Old 05-17-2012, 05:02 PM
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Just curious, who's the provider?
I have a good relation with "the provider" . Sorry, but I'll prefer to keep it private.

I have the option to go "1GB guaranteed" or "512Mb guaranteed + 6GB burstable", I think the 2nd option is better, but I want to be sure that the burstable Ram is not slow. Anyway, I think my VPS will run most of the time below the 512Mb limit, but I don't want it to run slow if more RAM is needed.

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