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  1. #16
    Excuse me, it does not cost $500 to get delisted, infact it cost nothing.

    Is there any fee for SBL removal?
    No. There is never any charge or fee associated with removing any Spamhaus listing.

    Any offer from anyone to remove any Spamhaus listing for you for a fee is a scam. Spamhaus has no affiliation with anyone offering any 'blocklist removal' service, nor can any third party influence or expedite removals from any Spamhaus database.

    Removals of Spamhaus listings are governed by our removals policy only. The criteria for removal from the SBL are explained on the SBL Delisting Procedure page. All removals from the SBL or ROKSO are the sole decision of The Spamhaus Project.

    While there are 'deliverability consultants' who can help improve your email sending practices to meet Spamhaus standards, it is important to know that none of them have any special privilege to influence, expedite or modify SBL or ROKSO listings.

    A $500.00 fee for abuse cleanup sounds expensive, but in many cases the cost is in time cleaning issues that aren’t immediately noticed. A spamhaus listing may be the tip of the iceberg- there are many other lists that your host’s IPs can land on depending on how long the offending party was operating. For example, Microsoft, AOL, Yahoo do not publish or contact abuse@ when they block an IP- they just do it. Dealing with some of these folks is *very* time consuming and the costs add up in lost time and frustrated customers who inherit a dirty IP range from a previous customer. I understand the OP may have gotten a bad shake by malicious clients, I also understand why HV did what they had to do to ensure smooth operations on their end.

    It sucks for both parties but reputation risk is a big deal for hosting companies, and the best way to mitigate risk is to nip the issue before is becomes a wildfire of time-consuming blacklistings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyAnonymous View Post
    The IP was null routed and it was only for a short time. Somewhere between this time the IP had apparently been restored without notification.
    I suspect what happened is:

    1) they received a report and null routed the IP given the severity of the report.
    2) you responded saying the customer was terminated / handled
    3) they trusted that this was true
    4) they removed the null route thinking it is handled as you said
    5) You re-enabled the server and they got fresh reports of continued abuse
    6) they terminated.

    I honestly don't think Hivelocity did anything wrong. They trusted it was handled and it is only through a mistake on your admin's part to "investigate" how they were spamming that this problem happened. Once you have a report you trust just terminate the customer and delete their files. Getting into the business of analyzing spam scripts is nothing but trouble unless your business is to design detection tools.

    Clearly no host wants to provide backups for spammers to allow them to easily move to another host. I am pretty sure Hivelocity knows you are not the spammer but I would be very hesitant to provide files that can generate blacklists in 24 hours to anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolraul View Post
    Clearly no host wants to provide backups for spammers to allow them to easily move to another host. I am pretty sure Hivelocity knows you are not the spammer but I would be very hesitant to provide files that can generate blacklists in 24 hours to anyone.
    Very well said... Hivelocity has to act in their best interest and the best interest of other providers. I actually think they did the right thing in this case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolraul View Post
    I suspect what happened is:

    1) they received a report and null routed the IP given the severity of the report.
    2) you responded saying the customer was terminated / handled
    3) they trusted that this was true
    4) they removed the null route thinking it is handled as you said
    5) You re-enabled the server and they got fresh reports of continued abuse
    6) they terminated.

    I honestly don't think Hivelocity did anything wrong. They trusted it was handled and it is only through a mistake on your admin's part to "investigate" how they were spamming that this problem happened. Once you have a report you trust just terminate the customer and delete their files. Getting into the business of analyzing spam scripts is nothing but trouble unless your business is to design detection tools.

    Clearly no host wants to provide backups for spammers to allow them to easily move to another host. I am pretty sure Hivelocity knows you are not the spammer but I would be very hesitant to provide files that can generate blacklists in 24 hours to anyone.
    Please refer back to a response I made. They restored the IP without confirming anything from me and even claimed they did not receive any emails to the abuse cases because I was apparently suppose to create support tickets, which I did overlook and they forgave this. (abuse@hivelocity isn't monitored)

    You do not simply "terminate" a user who spammed on your server, at least I never do when it is a serious spammer. The users scripts were investigated to help create further safety limits on detecting spam users before they even send out any emails, or very shortly after.

    This guy was found to be linking many VPS from various web hosts in very tricky/smart methods and warnings were sent to these hosts of our findings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dthigpen View Post
    Why would you turn the VPS back on? Why didn't your admin just mount the file system and investigate the init scripts and server daemon configurations to see what was going on? What he did was extremely irresponsible and in no way falls under due diligence.

    I can definitely see HV's side on this one.
    Agreed. It doesn't matter if the IP is nullrouted or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyAnonymous View Post
    Please refer back to a response I made. They restored the IP without confirming anything from me and even claimed they did not receive any emails to the abuse cases because I was apparently suppose to create support tickets, which I did overlook and they forgave this. (abuse@hivelocity isn't monitored)

    You do not simply "terminate" a user who spammed on your server, at least I never do when it is a serious spammer. The users scripts were investigated to help create further safety limits on detecting spam users before they even send out any emails, or very shortly after.

    This guy was found to be linking many VPS from various web hosts in very tricky/smart methods and warnings were sent to these hosts of our findings.
    You shouldn't need to reboot a VM in order to browse the files.

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    In xen - mount the drive

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    I sympathize with both parties. IMHO, neither party is at fault in this case. Spamhaus puts a lot of pressure on hosts, and will go to the extreme of blocking ALL of your IP ranges if you don't make them happy with whatever they are wanting.

    It can be very harsh on all ends, but unfortunately it's just how it is.

    Regarding the removal of the null route, Hivelocity probably should have managed this better on their part, and only have removed the null route once receiving some sort of hard confirmation from the client. Only then if it happened again would we terminate. So in this perspective, I can see why the OP would be pissed off - again - if this is true.
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  8. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by VN-Ken View Post
    I sympathize with both parties. IMHO, neither party is at fault in this case. Spamhaus puts a lot of pressure on hosts, and will go to the extreme of blocking ALL of your IP ranges if you don't make them happy with whatever they are wanting.

    It can be very harsh on all ends, but unfortunately it's just how it is.

    Regarding the removal of the null route, Hivelocity probably should have managed this better on their part, and only have removed the null route once receiving some sort of hard confirmation from the client. Only then if it happened again would we terminate. So in this perspective, I can see why the OP would be pissed off - again - if this is true.
    About this, who are these spamhaus guys to behave like that? I mean these people are really exagerating. It's like those crazy rating agencies that arbitrary downgrade banks and states.
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  9. #24
    I'm just wondering how the user 'HiveVelocityGM' will answer to this thread.

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    Yes usually they reply on the first or second post in a thread when its a positive review.
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    My experience with Hivelocity. Guys please away from Hivelocity. They are terminating clients servers without any notice.

    See my bad experience with Hivelocity


    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Feb/28/2012 10:19:23AM
    User ID: root
    Password: XXXXXXXX
    IP Address: 96.31.91.164

    I rebooted the server from remote reboot but still the server didnt came back.
    I was restoring the accounts

    Thanks
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    Staff
    From: Miguel A. Sent to Bytes Rack Hosting on Feb/28/2012 10:44:38AM
    Hello,

    It appeals that the abuse department has nulled your IP due to Abuse Case #
    5114.

    Here are the details of the abuse case:


    Hello,

    96.31.91.164 has been shceduled to be terminated from the network as it is a
    spam source which has caused RBL blacklisting of Hivelocity IP addresses. At
    this time the servers switch port has been shut off to prevent further damage to
    our IP's reputations.

    IP Allocation: 96.31.91.164 through 96.31.91.169

    NOTE: You took possession of this server Feb/22/2011

    *******************************************************

    1) http://cbl.abuseat.org/lookup.cgi?ip=96.31.91.164



    IP Address 96.31.91.164 is listed in the CBL. It appears to be infected with a
    spam sending trojan or proxy.

    It was last detected at 2012-02-27 14:00 GMT (+/- 30 minutes), approximately 1
    days ago.

    This IP address is HELO'ing as "localhost.localdomain" which violates
    the relevant standards (specifically: RFC5321).


    2) http://www.spamhaus.org/query/bl?ip=96.31.91.164

    *******************************************************

    Snow-Shoe RDNS configuration removed:

    164 in ptr ds.bytesrack.com.
    165 in ptr ds2.bytesrack.com.
    166 in ptr ds3.bytesrack.com.
    167 in ptr ds4.bytesrack.com.
    168 in ptr ds5.bytesrack.com.
    169 in ptr ds6.bytesrack.com.

    *******************************************************

    NOTE: DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE FOR ASSISTANCE. I am awaiting your
    explanation as to why this keeps happening on your self managed server in Ticket
    #155424 - Emails get returning. The server is scheduled for termination in full
    but I may reconsider based on your explanation when you repsond to the said
    ticket. As of now the servers port has been shutdown. The trouble ticket system
    is located here:

    https://www.hivelocity.net/support/submit-ticket

    Thank you!

    -Jay
    Sr. Systems Administrator
    HiVelocity Engineering Dept.
    http://www.hivelocity.net


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    Thank You,

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    https://support.hivelocity.net
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    Staff
    From: Jay M. Sent to Bytes Rack Hosting on Feb/28/2012 10:49:57AM
    Hello,

    As I just advised in ticket 155424, my concern is that this server continues to
    be a spam source even after you reloaded the server. This leads me to believe
    you have done nothing to mitigate the issue with your accounts and have simply
    migrated all content to the newly reloaded server.

    Thank you!

    -Jay
    Sr. Systems Administrator
    HiVelocity Engineering Dept.
    http://www.hivelocity.net
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Feb/28/2012 12:25:16PM
    Hello support,

    We need to investigate this further. thus, could you please put back server
    online. so that we can go through each account and see which one is abusing the
    server. We will get back to soon.

    Please note" this will directly effect to our business. So please give
    online the server until we rectify the issue.

    Regards,
    admin bytesrack
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    Staff
    From: Jay M. Sent to Bytes Rack Hosting on Feb/28/2012 12:53:16PM
    Hello,

    We will not turn on a spam source and allow any further time for resolution.
    Since you failed to resolve the hacking issue for over 2 months and spam was
    still being sent from this server as recent as yesterday which caused further
    RBL listing the server has been terminated from the network.

    Thank you!

    -Jay
    Sr. Systems Administrator
    HiVelocity Engineering Dept.
    http://www.hivelocity.net
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Feb/28/2012 12:59:12PM
    We are are very new to spam abuse. Please help us to solve this issue. Can you
    help us. We will pay you.
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    Staff
    From: Jay M. Sent to Bytes Rack Hosting on Feb/28/2012 1:01:36PM
    Hello,

    It is a bit late to be asking for assistance when it was offered 2 months ago.
    The server has been terminated from the network.

    Thank you!

    -Jay
    Sr. Systems Administrator
    HiVelocity Engineering Dept.
    http://www.hivelocity.net
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Feb/28/2012 1:13:12PM
    That mean you have been removed? I need my backups. That mean you are never
    going to reconnect right?
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Feb/28/2012 1:19:17PM
    If you can not put back online I need my backup. I have to find a another DC.
    Reply | Reply & Quote
    Staff
    From: Jay M. Sent to Bytes Rack Hosting on Feb/28/2012 2:58:57PM
    Hello,

    You may contact your account manager in regards to purchasing the harddrive if
    you do not have a local backup.

    Thank you!

    -Jay
    Sr. Systems Administrator
    HiVelocity Engineering Dept.
    http://www.hivelocity.net
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    Staff
    From: Jay M. Sent to Bytes Rack Hosting on Feb/28/2012 3:40:16PM
    Hello,

    I will authorize the haddrive to be released if you desire to purchase.

    The cost for a 1TB Sata will be $150.00 plus shipping.

    You will be required to pay for shipping and making shipping arrangments.

    Thank you!

    -Jay
    Sr. Systems Administrator
    HiVelocity Engineering Dept.
    http://www.hivelocity.net
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Feb/28/2012 7:55:51PM
    Listen . Please put back online. I'm going to loose all of my clients. Please .
    Put online for one day. Pleaseeee..
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Feb/28/2012 8:04:33PM
    Please put back online only for 24 hours. Please I need o get a backup.
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Feb/28/2012 8:54:02PM
    My Clients are going to take a leagle action for us. Please put back online only
    for 24 hours time. Pleaseeee. we are with you nearly one year with you people
    and I recommend you people for so many people. Even in WHT forum . Please
    discuss with Steve and please do some thing. Otherwise I have to close my
    business.
    Please do this favor. Pleaseeeeeeeee.
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Feb/28/2012 8:56:02PM
    My life is 100 % depending on this server , My wife Children everyone are
    depending on this server. Pleaseee...
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Feb/28/2012 10:13:48PM
    Please reply to my ticket.
    Reply | Reply & Quote
    Staff
    From: Jason Sayre Sent to Bytes Rack Hosting on Feb/28/2012 10:25:36PM
    Hello,

    Jay has left for the evening. It also seems as though he has given you the
    information you will need to retrieve the data that was located on your server.
    Please direct all further questions to your account manager.

    Thanks!
    --
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    Hivelocity Support Dept
    https://manage.hivelocity.net
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Feb/28/2012 10:29:49PM
    Please send me my account managers contact details
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    Staff
    From: Javier V. Sent to Bytes Rack Hosting on Feb/28/2012 10:40:54PM
    Hello,

    You can contact an account manager at lee@hivelocity.net. He can also be reached at ext: 246


    --
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    Systems Administrator
    Hivelocity Support
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    Staff
    From: "Sasha B." <> Sent to Bytes Rack Hosting on Feb/29/2012 9:11:10AM
    As already informed by Jay he has authorized you to purchase the drive and have
    it sent to you

    Hello,

    I will authorize the haddrive to be released if you desire to purchase.

    The cost for a 1TB Sata will be $150.00 plus shipping, and the 2nd 500GB Hard
    drive would be $100

    You will be required to pay for shipping and making shipping arrangments.

    Thank you!

    -Jay


    I can create the invoice for you to make payment on it, and you will need to
    provide me with a Fedex or UPS label and we will have it shipped out. It does
    look like you have 2 drives in the system, so we would need to which one you
    would like to purchase of if you need to purchase both Drives.

    Let me know if you have any other questions

    Thanks

    Sasha
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Mar/01/2012 3:45:19AM
    Ok Please send 500 GB Hard Drive . Please send me price for shipping. send me
    via Fedex , DHL or UPS
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    Staff
    From: Tommy C. Sent to Bytes Rack Hosting on Mar/01/2012 7:55:33AM
    Hello,

    You'll need to provide us with a shipping label from your choice of Shipper.

    To confirm, you want ONLY the 500GB HDD, which is $100.


    --
    Thanks,

    Tommy C.
    Hivelocity Impressive Support Dept
    Systems Administrator
    https://manage.hivelocity.net
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Mar/01/2012 10:55:42AM
    Yes I need only that 500 Gb drive only.

    This is my Address

    No 33 B 2nd Lane
    wanatha Road
    Gangodawila
    Nugegoda
    Sri Lanka

    Send me via DHL
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    Staff
    From: Chris A. Sent to Bytes Rack Hosting on Mar/01/2012 11:40:11AM
    You will need to setup shipping and provide us with a shipping label. I will
    invoice you for the drive and you can make payment - the drive will be shipped
    once payment is made.

    Thanks,
    --
    Chris Abella
    Billing Department
    chris@hivelocity.net
    888-869-4678 ext 234
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Mar/01/2012 2:03:08PM
    What do you mean by shipping label?
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    Staff
    From: Chris A. Sent to Bytes Rack Hosting on Mar/01/2012 2:58:37PM
    Advised what was needed via chat - please reply when that is completed so we can proceed.

    Thanks,
    --
    Chris Abella
    Billing Department
    chris@hivelocity.net
    888-869-4678 ext 234
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Mar/02/2012 10:13:31PM
    Ok I will pay the invoice by Monday. And I will arrange shipping via fedex.
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Mar/02/2012 10:23:38PM
    Actually my backup is very urgent. Clients are calling every second. Can you do
    like this. Now I have a new server. Can you transfer my daily backup directory
    to my new server. I will pay administration fee. 100 USD per hour.

    Can you do that?
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Mar/03/2012 10:29:13PM
    Please reply me.
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    Staff
    From: Jay M. Sent to Bytes Rack Hosting on Mar/05/2012 10:39:51AM
    Hello,

    Please provide the following:

    What is the servers root login information?
    What is the path of the folder you want uploaded to your new folder?
    What is the FTP hostname or IP of your new server?
    What is the FTP username?
    What is the Password?

    I will then see what I can do to FTP the data over for you. This will be
    billable at the standard rate of $100/hr.

    Thank you!

    -Jay
    Sr. Systems Administrator
    HiVelocity Engineering Dept.
    http://www.hivelocity.net
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Mar/06/2012 1:32:01AM
    Hi.


    My backup files are located in 500 GB Drive. There is have a directory call
    /backup . I need only daily backup folder only. Please check the capacity of
    that folder.


    Kind Regards

    Marx
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    Staff
    From: Jay M. Sent to Bytes Rack Hosting on Mar/06/2012 9:23:20AM
    Hello,

    You have not provided any of the login information requested and I am unable to
    assist without it. In addition, you will first need to make payment for $100 to
    the billing department before we proceed.

    Thank you!

    -Jay
    Sr. Systems Administrator
    HiVelocity Engineering Dept.
    http://www.hivelocity.net
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Mar/06/2012 10:22:38AM
    Hello

    Ok Create a folder /backup in my new server and transfer to that.

    220.247.224.235

    root

    password XXXXX
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    Staff
    From: Jay M. Sent to Bytes Rack Hosting on Mar/06/2012 11:06:30AM
    Hello,

    I will not create anything on your new server and did not ask for its root
    login information. I asked you for very specific information twice now and also
    instructed you to contact billing to pay the $100 before we proceed. At this
    time I think it is best if you simply purchase the harddrive and have shipped to
    you as you could have already had it in your possession versus all this going
    back and forth.

    Thank you!

    -Jay
    Sr. Systems Administrator
    HiVelocity Engineering Dept.
    http://www.hivelocity.net
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Mar/06/2012 9:38:33PM
    Please inform your billing department to send a invoice. I will pay .
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    Staff
    From: Tommy C. Sent to Bytes Rack Hosting on Mar/07/2012 6:13:51AM
    Hello,

    OK, we will generate an invoice for the price of the hard drive. You will need
    to provide a Shipping Label from your choice of shipper.


    --
    Thanks,

    Tommy C.
    Hivelocity Impressive Support Dept
    Systems Administrator
    https://manage.hivelocity.net
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    Staff
    From: Chris A. Sent to Bytes Rack Hosting on Mar/07/2012 7:35:25AM
    You have already been invoiced for the drive as I stated before. You need to
    setup a pickup via UPS/FedEx/DHL and send us the shipping label to affix to the
    box. When we receive the shipping label and payment for the drive, we will
    release it for shipping.

    Thanks,
    --
    Chris Abella
    Billing Department
    chris@hivelocity.net
    888-869-4678 ext 234
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Mar/07/2012 8:47:04AM
    No No. What I mean for your administration fee. 100 Hr
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    Staff
    From: Tommy C. Sent to Bytes Rack Hosting on Mar/07/2012 8:49:28AM
    Hello,

    Jay had said earlier that we won't be doing the work, and you'll need to have
    the drive shipped to you:

    "At this
    time I think it is best if you simply purchase the harddrive and have shipped
    to
    you as you could have already had it in your possession versus all this going
    back and forth.

    Thank you!

    -Jay
    Sr. Systems Administrator
    HiVelocity Engineering Dept.
    http://www.hivelocity.net"



    --
    Thanks,

    Tommy C.
    Hivelocity Impressive Support Dept
    Systems Administrator
    https://manage.hivelocity.net
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Mar/07/2012 9:38:51AM
    I'm not in a possion to buy Hard Drive because it will take long to to reach our
    office. And also there is have a extra risk because can damage data while in
    shipping. Best way is to transfer all backup data to my new server location. As
    I mention before I already created a backup location in my hard drive . so
    please please transfer all data to that location. Please make a invoice that
    purpose only.


    220.247.224.235

    root

    password XXXXX
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    Staff
    From: Chris A. Sent to Bytes Rack Hosting on Mar/07/2012 10:01:30AM
    As stated - they will not do any other work and you will need to purchase the
    drive. If you do not choose to purchase the drive it will be recycled for use by
    the end of the week on 3/9/11. Let us know how you would like to proceed else we
    will put it in for recycling on that date.

    Thanks,
    --
    Chris Abella
    Billing Department
    chris@hivelocity.net
    888-869-4678 ext 234
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Mar/07/2012 12:12:38PM
    Ok give me time until day after tomorrow.
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    Staff
    From: "Sasha B." <> Sent to Bytes Rack Hosting on Mar/07/2012 12:17:26PM
    Please make sure you contact Chris by Friday in order to get that Drive Shipped

    Thanks

    Sasha
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Mar/09/2012 9:58:31PM
    Hello
    I have been with Hivelocity nearly one year. But you people remove my server
    without informing us. Now our business is 100 % lost. Now we are going to close
    our business.

    Please put back my server for 2 days time. I need to take a backup. After that
    I do not want continue with your people .I don't want pay for the Hard Disk.
    because my company is 100 % lost because of Hivelocity.


    Note: *************************If you do not put back online for 2 days I will
    charge back my all payments.***********************************************
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Mar/09/2012 9:59:26PM
    I will put thousands of bad reviews in WHT and IT forums about your company..
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    Staff
    From: Tommy C. Sent to Bytes Rack Hosting on Mar/10/2012 8:14:16AM
    Hello,


    We tried to work with you and get the data copied over to a server not in our
    DC, but you never replied with any of the asked for information. Even after
    asking numerous times, you did not want to give us the info we needed to FTP the
    data to your new server.

    You can purchase the drive and have it shipped to you. We do not want to keep
    your data. At this point since you didn't reply before 5:00 PM on Friday, I can
    guarantee that the hard drive is still available. If so, do you want it shipped
    to you so you can recover your data? The price of the drive and the price of the
    admin work you wanted to pay for are the same. The only extra is in getting it
    shipped to you. That could've been avoided if you had simply done as we asked
    earlier, but at this point we will not be putting your server online, nor will
    we be doing any admin work for you. If you'd like the drive, you can have it
    for the same price, $100, as the admin work would have been.





    --
    Thanks,

    Tommy C.
    Hivelocity Impressive Support Dept
    Systems Administrator
    https://manage.hivelocity.net
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Mar/10/2012 11:24:15AM
    Hello,

    Thanks for your prompt action,

    Due to the current crisis in our company because of server termination, we are
    not in a position to pay even $100.
    Further more, We need our backups to be handed over to our 500 customer,
    therefor we are in a big trouble. Some of the clients were informed us that
    they will go to the court regarding this issue. Thus, Please emphasis and try to
    understand our situation to take an better action to give our backup reasonable
    way. So, please be good enough to put our server online 2 days time (dates will
    be informed you and we will do the transferring works) or transfer the whole
    backups to our new server backup folder. (Free of charge)
    If you agree for this i will give the server credentials and folder name to
    transfer.

    if you couldn't follow the above plans, there is no 2 thinking times. we which
    to charge back the money we spent to our server.. And we will find a another
    solution to get the backups.
    looking forward to hearing from you a good news..................


    www.bytesrack.com
    Systems Administrator
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Mar/10/2012 10:07:21PM
    I need an answer.
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    Staff
    From: Shannon W. Sent to Bytes Rack Hosting on Mar/11/2012 1:59:00AM
    I will be setting up temporary access to your data. Please provide the IP you
    will be connecting from. The server will be behind a firewall and only
    accessible from the IP you provide.
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    Staff
    From: Shannon W. Sent to Bytes Rack Hosting on Mar/11/2012 4:31:51AM
    I have your server online. I am just awaiting for you to provide the IP the
    server will be accessed from.
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Mar/11/2012 5:05:38AM
    Thanks for your quick support.

    IP Address 67.202.94.163


    This is the IP address in our new server. We will log in to the putty and we
    will be SCP all the backup files from your Hard Drive or through cPanel. Please
    provide us the correct backup location.

    We need to get our daily backup . Daily backup is located in a 500 GB drive.
    Reply | Reply & Quote
    Staff
    From: Shannon W. Sent to Bytes Rack Hosting on Mar/11/2012 5:10:13AM
    I have made it where the IP 67.202.94.163 can access the server completely. The
    location of the file will be the same as when the server was fully accessible.
    It is the same server and the setup has not been changed.
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Mar/11/2012 5:42:59AM
    Thanks for your support. Once we finish the migration we will let you know.
    Reply | Reply & Quote
    Staff
    From: Conal M. Sent to Bytes Rack Hosting on Mar/11/2012 4:10:43PM
    Hello,

    Are you still migrating at this time?




    --
    Conal
    Systems Management Specialist
    conal@hivelocity.net
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Mar/11/2012 9:04:26PM
    Yes Still in migration. We nee another 10 hours.
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    Staff
    From: Matthew L. Sent to Bytes Rack Hosting on Mar/11/2012 9:07:19PM
    No problem,

    I am placing the ticket "on-hold" with a timer to re-open in 10 hours.
    Or, if you are done and respond this should open this ticket again.

    Thanks,
    --
    -- Matthew --
    Hivelocity Impressive Support
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    Staff
    From: Shannon W. Sent to Bytes Rack Hosting on Mar/12/2012 7:05:05AM
    How are you progressing in your migration?
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Mar/12/2012 7:37:00AM
    Hello,

    We have almost finished our migration. But, we have realized that Some of the
    accounts were missed and not there in the weekly backup folder. But We remember
    that there was a Daily backup folder exist in 500GB hard. Can you please find
    the Daily backup folder and let us know to proceed further.

    Regards,
    System Administrator
    www.bytesrack.com
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    Staff
    From: Shannon W. Sent to Bytes Rack Hosting on Mar/12/2012 7:42:42AM
    Your daily cpanel backups would be /backup/cpbackup/daily
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Mar/12/2012 8:11:06AM
    Hello,

    Thanks for the quick reply.

    This is the correct backup that we needed. So we will start to copy them to our
    server location again. Please don't shutdown the server until we inform you. It
    wi'll take another 1 day to complete the migration.

    Thanks, best regards,
    systems administrator
    www.bytesrack.com
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    Client
    From: Bytes Rack Hosting
    sales@bytesrack.com Received on Mar/13/2012 2:30:04AM
    Hello

    Now backup is ok. Now you can shutdown your server. Many thanks for your help.
    I really appreciate your help. I have been with you people nearly 3 years. This
    is my 2nd server. I purchased 1st server for my previous company.


    I have to give a small advise. Please inform to your management don't play with
    business. If you want to terminate your clients servers please inform them to
    take a backup.Other wise HIVELOCITY VENTURES will go down day by day. As a
    result you people will loose jobs. Please advise your management team.

    In last 4 years you guys gave us a good support. I really appreciated it. Now I
    have to say good bye.


    Special Thanks to Scott , Sasha , Steve. Dave ,Shannon , Karl , Tommy , Chris ,
    Sara ,Jay and other staff


    Good Bye Hivelocity. We wish you all the best.

    Best Regards

    BytesRack Hosting Management team and Staff
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    Staff
    From: Jay M. Sent to Bytes Rack Hosting on Mar/13/2012 10:30:36AM
    Hello,

    The server has been removed from the network.

    Thank you!

    -Jay
    Sr. Systems Administrator
    HiVelocity Engineering Dept.
    http://www.hivelocity.net
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  12. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALEXEI_M View Post
    My experience with Hivelocity. Guys please away from Hivelocity. They are terminating clients servers without any notice.

    See my bad experience with Hivelocity
    Based on what I see from the OP and your own thread, they provided you with several months notice/attempts to work with you.

    Regarding the "bad experience" with Hivelocity that you posted, it seems that they went above and beyond what other DC's would've done to get you your data...<sarcasm>yep, a real bad experience there</sarcasm>
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  13. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by NetBuster View Post
    I'm just wondering how the user 'HiveVelocityGM' will answer to this thread.
    The OP posted most of our correspondence so I am not sure what there is left for me to add. The customer hosted a known ROKSO spammer. We sent him an abuse complaint with instruction to remove the ROKSO spammer from the network immediately or we would terminate the server. 2 days later the ROKSO spammer was still not removed from the server and network, the same ip was once again sending spam, instructions were not followed and we terminated the server. We have offered numerous times to sell the customer his drives at cost and he could have them shipped next day air.

    It is an unfortunate situation for everyone involved except the spammer. Nothing good happens when you sign up ROKSO spammers.
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    Bare Metal Servers. Colocation. Private Cloud.
    Customers in over 130 countries. Privately owned and operated data center.
    Limited Supply Outlet Server Specials

  14. #29
    Hello Steve, I'm the unlucky, unfortunate owner of VPS 199.119.100.145 inside Chris' 199.119.100.142 ... is there any way to salvage my clients' files? If I can get the tarballs (you can just change the root password from the console).

    I haven't got any refund either.

    Quote Originally Posted by HivelocityGM View Post
    The OP posted most of our correspondence so I am not sure what there is left for me to add. The customer hosted a known ROKSO spammer. We sent him an abuse complaint with instruction to remove the ROKSO spammer from the network immediately or we would terminate the server. 2 days later the ROKSO spammer was still not removed from the server and network, the same ip was once again sending spam, instructions were not followed and we terminated the server. We have offered numerous times to sell the customer his drives at cost and he could have them shipped next day air.

    It is an unfortunate situation for everyone involved except the spammer. Nothing good happens when you sign up ROKSO spammers.

  15. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by mrwaterdancer View Post
    Hello Steve, I'm the unlucky, unfortunate owner of VPS 199.119.100.145 inside Chris' 199.119.100.142 ... is there any way to salvage my clients' files? If I can get the tarballs (you can just change the root password from the console).

    I haven't got any refund either.
    I am not at liberty to discuss much of the situation with a customer's customer, however, I can tell you we have provided an option for our customer to regain the data. You will have to deal with your host directly on getting the data from him.
    Steve Eschweiler- DOO
    Bare Metal Servers. Colocation. Private Cloud.
    Customers in over 130 countries. Privately owned and operated data center.
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