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    OK that sounds nice. When you mean hardware problems, you mean like incompatibility with Open-E or real hardware problems like drives failing, etc?

    I ask this because actually software problems are more common this days. Will Open-E work fine on standard hardware or its picky on what it will run in terms of performance and load?
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    We tried it, can't recall why we decided to ditch it. I think the trial doesn't support block level, only file based storage repository. Honestly cannot recall.

    Now happy with QuantaStor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InfiniteTech View Post
    We tried it, can't recall why we decided to ditch it. I think the trial doesn't support block level, only file based storage repository. Honestly cannot recall.

    Now happy with QuantaStor.
    We are using block level iSCSI, with no issues.
    Best part we found was we can tweak settings per target, and initiator for our needs with vmware.

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    Thats is right, NFS is file level and iSCSI is actually block level. They probably did not offered iSCSI support with their trial. But the minute you offer iSCSI storage is has to be block level as far as I know.

    The reason I did not went with Open-E some years ago was because they did not supported XenServer and when someone asked that in their forums their reply was that they may neversupport for it because of some problems. I remember that, but I think that changed and today they fully support Citrix XenServer because then I read on a press release they where Citrix Verified.

    So they changed their mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nibb View Post
    Thats is right, NFS is file level and iSCSI is actually block level. They probably did not offered iSCSI support with their trial. But the minute you offer iSCSI storage is has to be block level as far as I know.
    Thats not true. Microsoft still uses file storage repository for iSCSI.

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    When creating new LUNs in Open-E we do have the choice to do blockIO, or FileIO ... we picked block.
    But iSCSI is a block level device. I won't venture to guess what MS is doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InfiniteTech View Post
    Thats not true. Microsoft still uses file storage repository for iSCSI.
    What Microsoft does is one things but that doesn't deny the fact that iSCSI is a block level technology, not file level.

    If you want file level you would go with NSF, or CIFS.

    Also not sure where you got that info. I never used Microsoft iSCSI initiator but as far as I know it would still be block level if its iSCSI.
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    We've used Open-e. It's stable. It works. It's easy. It's not fast. That said, we have clients using Open-e very successfully.

    Fast is Nexenta. Pricing for entry level is comparable. When you want HA, Open-e is cheaper. But again, Nexenta is far faster. It's really no contest when it comes to speed. Reliability with Nexenta has so far been good.

    Of course, even cheaper would be to roll your own ZFS san.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lostmind View Post
    We've used Open-e. It's stable. It works. It's easy. It's not fast. That said, we have clients using Open-e very successfully.

    Fast is Nexenta. Pricing for entry level is comparable. When you want HA, Open-e is cheaper. But again, Nexenta is far faster. It's really no contest when it comes to speed. Reliability with Nexenta has so far been good.

    Of course, even cheaper would be to roll your own ZFS san.
    Thanks for the feedback. When you mention its not fast is the difference really noticeable? Did you tested it on the same hardware?

    There is a review of them in Toms hardware vs DataCore and it doesn't achieve the same performance but for the price its pretty good, I mean DataCore costs a small fortune.

    I have to look into Nexenta as well but Open-E seems nice for small business or small setups. Of course if you need to scale bigger in the future, that would not fix performance or speed issues either once you deployed a solution its pretty much the same except features.
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    We use Open-E ISCSI with Xenserver and like it alot. Recommend anyone starting a SAN to use newer LSI disk controllers and CacheCade 2.0 software with SSD's which really speeds things up.

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    Download the Open-E DSS trial to a USB stick and use that to boot off of on a PC to check it out. Very easy to test for 2 whole months which is great.

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    The Disk On Modules are better than the USB sticks. They are designed for long life where the USB sticks have limited life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kris1351 View Post
    The Disk On Modules are better than the USB sticks. They are designed for long life where the USB sticks have limited life.
    I Agree. But for testing to see if you even want to go that route a USB is quick and easy. Not sure if any of the other low cost SAN products out there like Nexenta or OpenFiler will even fit on a USB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nibb View Post
    Thanks for the feedback. When you mention its not fast is the difference really noticeable? Did you tested it on the same hardware?

    There is a review of them in Toms hardware vs DataCore and it doesn't achieve the same performance but for the price its pretty good, I mean DataCore costs a small fortune.

    I have to look into Nexenta as well but Open-E seems nice for small business or small setups. Of course if you need to scale bigger in the future, that would not fix performance or speed issues either once you deployed a solution its pretty much the same except features.
    When I say faster, I mean faster. Once the cache is hit in Nexenta/ZFS, the speed is incredible. When hitting the raw storage, it's still just as fast as Open-e.

    Datacore... I could never actually GET pricing out of them. That disqualified them in my mind. And the lady who runs that company still calls me once in a while trying to sell her product to me. But won't give me pricing. It's a strange world!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WebGuyz View Post
    We use Open-E ISCSI with Xenserver and like it alot. Recommend anyone starting a SAN to use newer LSI disk controllers and CacheCade 2.0 software with SSD's which really speeds things up.
    Odd, I've had no luck actually showing any performance gains with the cachecade 2.0 software. It's like I can't get the cache to actually cache.
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