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  1. #1
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    Nocs changing to Verio ?

    If I could still recall, read that Sean mentioned Verio coming in on Monday ? Izit true or just to make us nocs user happy ??

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    Yes, Verio is scheduled for install on Monday. It will be replacing AT&T. We are still also adding Global Crossing, but that has been gettng delayed due to a fiber build...but is still coming shortly. We have a major press release regarding our network coming very shortly....about 7-10 days until we release it to the public.


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    okie, good to see Nocs trying ur best to improve ur services and cutting down on downtime issues.

    Anything to add on so as to make members of Nocs family feel a bit better than having to read so many posts on downtime issues, bad support services and so forth. It's terrible to read those when you are trying to support Nocs at one time and received neg. comments on the other hand.

    Probably Sean, if you are here and reading this, post something on anything that Nocs are doing now to reverse the situation here.. at least that gonna make us feel a bit better and honour to be Nocs family.

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    There is no situation here.
    Just a slowdown due to quanitity of orders from the sale...no big deal, we'll be back to normal ASAP.

    A few complaints from this cannot change the spectacular service NOCSTER has been giving prior...



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    Good to hear that.

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    Verio any good?
    What does one host say to the other? "(HostA) Want to go see a movie?" "(HostB) Sure, can your parents drive?"

    I'm premium, and no, I did not have to pay $6 a month to figure that out.

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    I don't think Burst would be making a switch from good to bad Dark .. I hope not anyway
    Money is the root of all evil. So if you don't want to go crazy, give it all to me

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    Verio has a very stable and fast network.
    Our client's will be very satisfied with them.

    A mix of Sprint, Level3, Verio, & Global Crossing is pretty darn nice.

    Just wait until our press release comes out in 7-10 days, then you'll realy like what you hear about the future of our network.

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    Will dream about hitting the Sign up button on Burst tonight
    Money is the root of all evil. So if you don't want to go crazy, give it all to me

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    I never route over anything but sprint from my Burst servers, and I get 160ms-190ms always (that's damn quick for dialup). I'm used to 220-350ms pings from most places so I'm real happy with the sprint, but it's had issues lately.

    A lot of clients of mine route over AT&T or Cogent and have bad problems with them so I'm hoping Verio will cure that. I've just never used them and was curious ...

    BTW, is cogent _really_ going to be removed or ...
    What does one host say to the other? "(HostA) Want to go see a movie?" "(HostB) Sure, can your parents drive?"

    I'm premium, and no, I did not have to pay $6 a month to figure that out.

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    Yes, Cogent is getting removed this week I believe. AT&T as well....as soon as Verio is up and tested stable.
    Would have been removed already, if not for the Global Crossing install delay.

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    Guess that we will be looking into something that is good soon from Nocs next week..
    and probably we won't be going to hv any interruptions while Nocs doing some
    installation on the service, though I must admit there may be some ...

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    Can wait for the Changes

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    people Seem to like Verio just fine, even with traces to vdi, you will see Verio or Att go back and forth.

    just depends on your isp peering.

    Level3 and verio are more active at night then during the day.
    -----My wife said it was ok----

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    probably high european/assian traffic?

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    Sean - You're not keeping AT&T for the BurstNet network? I remember when you still had Worldcom, and when there was a problem, Nocster got switched onto that to balance out the problem.

    - Matt

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    Not sure about the worldcom thing, but I'm very relieved to hear about nocster changing networks... Feb has had way too much latency and network blips - here's to the (hopeful) end of that...
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    Right now I"m connecting over ATT and its terrible. Pings of 100+. I can't wait for some Global Crossing bandwidth.

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    I'm getting sub 20ms pings throught ATT... noooooo!!!

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    Looks like they are removing all the 'higher dollar' providers for 'lower dollar' providers.
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    you wouldn't want verio/global crossing over ATT?

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    If I get routed by Sprint, it's fine. Level3 is another story though...

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    I personally don't like ATT very much.
    I found them often having network issues etc.
    I'm often seeing biiig latency increases at peering/transit points.
    That's really a con.
    In just two days, tomorrow will be yesterday.

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    Yes, AT&T & Cogent are both being removed this week.
    Verio is being added Mon/Tues...depends on the big snowstorm here on the east coast, as we have to drive to Philadelphia to install a router.

    Don't worry about AT&T going away...
    With the big press release in 7-10 days we will be making, you'll understand why we are doing this, and all the pieces will fall into place.

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    Originally posted by BiGWill
    I personally don't like ATT very much.
    I found them often having network issues etc.
    I'm often seeing biiig latency increases at peering/transit points.
    That's really a con.
    /me wonders if it's the avici icmp problem. bleh i am too tired/lazy to explain that bug to you traceroute kids, yet again.

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    depends on the big snowstorm here on the east coast, as we have to drive to Philadelphia to install a router.
    I guess you won't be doing it today! I heard that a bunch of people can't get in, and that Pete couldn't even get onto the highway because of the snow! We're getting pounded with snow here in NJ too - and I just found out that everyone else living within a mile of me still has cable & internet, it's just my block with the problem... I hate dialup internet (and Comcast cable).

    - Matt

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    Only about 5 inches here but I'm in the Midwest.
    What does one host say to the other? "(HostA) Want to go see a movie?" "(HostB) Sure, can your parents drive?"

    I'm premium, and no, I did not have to pay $6 a month to figure that out.

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    Blummin snow, hope it doesnt delay the build of my server.


    Dman, could have done with switching weather, today in Fawley (southest part of UK) it was the brightest sunshine with the clearest sky this year, if we could swap weather my server wouldnt get delayed in being built and I wouldnt have had to go to work

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    With the big press release in 7-10 days we will be making, you'll understand why we are doing this, and all the pieces will fall into place.
    Unlimited bandwidth maybe I'm hoping it's really as big as it sounds.

    - Matt

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    By the way, due to snow/blizzard conditions, we rescheduled the install of Verio for later this week.
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    << Unlimited bandwidth maybe I'm hoping it's really as big as it sounds. >>

    No such things as unlimited bandwidth :-)
    think we all nkow that ... heh

    It's pretty big...
    Atleast from our standpoint...

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    Hey, I can get unlimited bandwidth from lots of places They all seem to go out of business though

    Getting the billing system back up was a big announcement for me, I caught some bad charges.

    - Matt

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    Sean,

    Ooohhh, you're really building us up here... Lets see... What could it be...

    -You've said no to unlimited bandwidth... Maybe you found some unlimited space hard drives????

    -"Nocster talk forums - whining about nocster all day, every day"

    -Increase in prices to fund big daddy Sean's new condo in florida, to escape the snow??

    -Yet another 'discount' branch opens, kazzaster (you know, napster, grokster, nocster, kazzaster???)?

    -Free puppies/kittens with every order?

    Gosh, I just dunno

    Here's my serious guesses as to your press release:

    -Bump up to 400 gb with every server to match rackshack.net

    -Verio bandwidth public release/posted on site

    -New center for non-admin employees

    -New employees period

    Just guesses...

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    I think he married one of the xeons and hes going to sell all their kids for half off. What they are actually going to annouce only mainarea knows(so everyone PM him )

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    -"Nocster talk forums - whining about nocster all day, every day"
    I'm actually working with another reseller to get unofficial Nocster support/FAQ forum up, it should be running within a day or so, maybe sooner.

    What they are actually going to annouce only mainarea knows(so everyone PM him )
    Nope, I dont know... They wouldn't even tell me, probably because I'd leak it before it was supposed to be released .

    I'm not sure if this will have anything to do with the press release, but Sean posted this in another thread:
    We are also moving into new offices in the next few weeks, as we have completely outgrown our current offices with the Scranton PA facility. We'll be moving just a few blocks away, and will have plenty of room for growth of the staff then. No, the servers are staying where they are...just the sales/billing/support staff is going to be moving. There will be onsite techs at the data center to do nothing but server reboots/builds/installs/repairs...and since they only focus on such tasks, the response times on these things will also be greatly improved.
    - Matt

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    Angry Burst/Nocster Differences after changes?

    So what are the differences between Nocster and BurstNET bandwidth going to be then? I signed up because I liked AT&T Sprint and UUNET combo, not it appears that most of those will be gone. Can you elaborate on the difference for the price I am paying for the premium service?

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    Alareach - They'll be adding another provider after Verio and Global Crossing, I think.

    - Matt

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    None of you are even close to guessing :-)

    Just wait another week until we finalize some deals, than we'll release info to the public.

    mainarea: don't bothe with the forums, we'll re-activate ours shortly...seems enough people are requesting it again now...


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    Sean - Alright, I'll just put some basic server setup FAQs up.

    Does this have anything to do with it?
    BurstNET™ is currently negotiating with major backbone providers to open POPs (Points of Presence) in the BurstNET™ Scranton PA facility. This will increase speeds tremendously due to on-site peering arrangements. Such would allow fiber connections directly to major US peering points/hubs like MAE-EAST, MAE-NYC (8th Avenue), & Halsey Street, avoiding RBOC/CLEC Telco loops.
    - Matt

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