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03-15-2012, 02:04 PM #1Newbie
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I'm looking for a server in china...
I'm looking for a reliable windows server in china (hong kong would also be OK, but china would be preferable).
I would need to be able to remote desktop into it and run software on it. I'm located in the US and need to be able to run software that requires a chinese IP address (I'm trying to use a service that's limited to people in china and surrounding areas). I'm not going to be hosting a website, just using the machine itself when I need to.
What I'd be looking for (I'm not looking for anything super high performance, just basic stuff here..):
- Dual core CPU
- 2 GB RAM
- 1 MBit bandwidth
- 10 GB storage space
What's most important is that the company is reputable and reliable. 99.9% uptime, and NOT overselling their services.
Thanks for any recommendations0
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03-15-2012, 03:08 PM #2Now renamed!
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Do you have the required licenses?
At the current time you need licenses for everything in China, from simplý renting any server til hosting a website, forum or streaming - each of that requires its own license.0
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03-15-2012, 07:04 PM #3Newbie
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03-15-2012, 08:36 PM #5Web Hosting Master
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03-15-2012, 08:41 PM #6
I posted that link simply to give the OP an idea what was being mentioned. As Zhang said above, you need a licence for pretty much anything these days - Best that the Op researches it first, for whatever task he actually wants to use the server for, before he parts with any cash
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03-15-2012, 08:51 PM #7Newbie
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Wow.. really?
What about hong kong.. are there any ridiculous rules to rent a server there?0
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03-15-2012, 09:18 PM #9Junior Guru Wannabe
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why do you not buy or rent a us server?
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03-15-2012, 10:00 PM #10Web Hosting Master
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datapipe offers ded servers in HK
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03-16-2012, 01:15 AM #11Temporarily Suspended
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If you really want to go in China. You should have a ICP.
Or think about Hong Kong dedicated server.0
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03-16-2012, 01:55 AM #12WHT Addict
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03-16-2012, 02:10 AM #13Temporarily Suspended
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HongKong is still an open market yet. If you do not break HK Law, there is no matter what you save your Internet content.
Many Chinese Mainland user & google.cn switched their server in HongKong.
I hope HK government will not change their mind in this near future.0
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03-16-2012, 04:05 AM #14Temporarily Suspended
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Many provider offer VPN service , like Strongvpn.com
They are doing very well !0
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03-16-2012, 04:08 AM #15Disabled
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What's your budget for the server?
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03-16-2012, 11:57 AM #16Premium Member
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Yes I can confirm this, we offer China VPS and dedis at multiple locations in China through one of our brands, usually for server monitoring companies, and as long as they do not have a web server running they are fine.
Most datacenters which do not block port 80 by default will find out quickly if there is a website running on the server without an ICP license, and to cover themselves this means immediate unplugging of the server without any notice.0
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03-16-2012, 12:37 PM #17Temporarily Suspended
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Any website active in China. Should be ICP needed
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03-16-2012, 02:09 PM #18Now renamed!
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And, for licence, if you do not host websites, you DO NOT need any licence
Everyone has different laws, it's a nightmare.
Technically, there is also a license for VPN providers (needed in Beijing, Chengdu, Urumqi - also whole of sichuan - and a few other citys/regions)
But after all it is a safe bet to say that the governmentS (local, regional, central) can shut you down with no reason at anytime.0
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03-16-2012, 05:08 PM #19Junior Guru Wannabe
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Hi Zhang
I can see you are not living in China, you don't know China very well
I'm 100% agree that you said "governmentS (local, regional, central) can shut you down with no reason at anytime", that means the Gov. rules everything, no business is 100% legal, the Gov. can shut you down in every minutes in any reason.it's like every company in China do tax dodging, if you don't do that, you can not compete with others
Back to the topic, you may need ICP licence to do anything related to internet in some big DCs, like www.net.cn , however there are many small DCs or resellers in China do not require ICP licence if you don't need port 80, i confirmed this with several China DCs
As you mentioned VPN, if you are talking about enterprise level VPN, that may require some kind of licence, but if you mean personal VPN service, i can confirm to you that the Gov. doesn't like it, but there is no law in China says it's illegal and most important is the Gov. didn't shut any VPN provider down, there are hundreds VPN providers in China, big and small, even xunlei.com has their own VPN service, one thing i need tell you is in China, we can not use the keyword "VPN", the Gov banned it, we call it accelerator (加速器), it's the same thing.
You can not block one thing that the people really need, you blocked it, that's your official position, however, in China, it's really odd, it's not black or white world, many many times, it needs to be grey.
i don't know whether my poor English made it clear or not. i think Zhang,as you can read Chinese, should know what i'm talking about
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03-16-2012, 05:26 PM #20Now renamed!
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yes, i certainly know what you mean, and yes you have a valid point.
If you go with a reseller most won't care what you do - government won't care either what you do unless someone reports it directly to them, which is why many spammers and viagra etc. redirector/hosters are in China.
Similar, the government could not care less about some VPN service, actually - it makes it easier for them to log traffic and see what it needs to censor (so why shut it down).
I can see you are not living in China, you don't know China very well
However, i've also seen the problems in other regions and citys like Chengdu where we had a presence for a long time build.
I would however not trust in anyone saying that you don't need licenses for it - You should check with the local government, city government and central one also before doing anything.
Even after that, if they want it, they simply turn you off.0
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03-16-2012, 05:45 PM #21Junior Guru Wannabe
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I can not discuss VPN here with you ,that gonna hurt business
That's the reason i said you don't know China very well, actually, you are technically not Chinese, you grow up in HK which i believe belongs to UK when you were there, then you moved to another country (not China), you just lived a time in Shenzhen and other cities, you don't have enough time to know this country.
The real Chinese would never "check with the local government, city government and central one also before doing anything" EVER, there are things that can not be officially discussed, you know what i'm saying? there are something that the Gov. can let you do privately, but if you go official, they will NOT let you do.
It's true that if they want it, they simply turn you off, but what's the point? it is they let do, but they will not say it is legal. that's the nature fact in China for many many thingshello there0
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03-16-2012, 05:48 PM #22Now renamed!
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The real Chinese would never "check with the local government, city government and central one also before doing anything" EVER, there are things that can not be officially discussed, you know what i'm saying? there are something that the Gov. can let you do privately, but if you go official, they will NOT let you do.
We always refer customers to ask what they need in permits, and it works fine there for my knowledge.0
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03-16-2012, 06:13 PM #23Junior Guru Wannabe
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Build a DC is totally different from rent a server or rent a VPS.
The Communications Authority didn't say you need a licence to use a server, it is you need licence to host a website. they are totally different.
If you ask Communications Authority whether you can sell a no port 80 server to a man without licence, of course the Communications Authority will say NO, you lose your customer
If you don't ask, the Communications Authority will not brother you, you follow the rule,you make the money.
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03-17-2012, 01:03 AM #24Temporarily Suspended
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Well, I think operating a DC (ever a smaller one) is limited by Chinese Mainland. There is not a open market and the owner is step into the China Telecom profit.
By the way, VPN for crop must licence needed. Such as some big brand, they started a few years ago to promote their Crop-VPN service.
Create any website in China mainland should need to apply a ICP. And you should give your real name to the Chinese government for your website.
No ICP = No Website in China Mainland.
The only option is place your website in Hong Kong or oversea, which is not the same law with Mainland .... yet...0
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04-08-2012, 07:20 PM #25Newbie
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Ok, I thought this thing through and made my decision.
I'm going to go with a hong kong server. I want a windows machine that I can remote desktop into and can freely install whatever I want on it. I'd like to keep it under $100 / month. Can anyone recommend a good provider?
I looked up datapipe, but they don't seem to rent dedicated servers on their webpage. Security/reliability are my main issues. I don't need a ton of computing power / storage space / bandwidth.
It seems like the hassle of getting something set up in china just isn't worth it.0
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