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03-12-2012, 06:41 AM #1Newbie
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High Storage Dedicated Server (100Tb)
Hi!
We are interested in the server configuration with 100Tb of storage (SATA HDD in RAID 0).
What can you recommend in the U.S. and Europe?
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03-12-2012, 06:46 AM #2cout << m_subtitle;
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100TBs, are you sure you'd risk running that on RAID 0? That's like asking for data corruption events every week.
Also, there are plenty of companies that can provide this. What's your budget?
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03-12-2012, 06:47 AM #3Newbie
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We are looking for an adequate supply for the price.
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03-12-2012, 06:52 AM #4cout << m_subtitle;
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Here are some companies that will manage to provide this, sorry for the ones I left out . I have bolded the ones that I have first-hand experience, but the others have a ton of positive reviews here anyway. All of these have 1 or multiple locations in North America or Western-Europe. Due to the size of your requirements, I'd recommend you to start sending out some emails with details on what you are trying to achieve.
100TB,
BurstNET,
ColoCrossing,
DedicatedNOW,
FDCServers,
Hivelocity,
HostDime,
HoneLive,
i3D
iWeb,
Leaseweb,
Limestone Networks,
Liquid Web,
NetDepot,
Rackspace,
SecuredServers,
ServerBoost,
SingleHop,
Softlayer,
Steadfast Networks,
TailorMadeServers,
UbiquityServers,
WebNX,
WeServIT
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03-12-2012, 07:15 AM #5Cable Director
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100 TB storage is not really a 'basic', certainly in a RAID0 setup.
We are open for challenges but this one is not one we are able to support unfortunately
Just to let everyone know, the op is looking for 100 TB STORAGE, not 100 TB traffic» www.InstantDedicated.com - Online in no time
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03-12-2012, 07:17 AM #6cout << m_subtitle;
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03-12-2012, 07:20 AM #7Cable Director
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I agree, I would never recommend putting in RAID0, but if that's what customer needs...
I'm also curious to know which budget the client can make available for this project, since harddisk prices are still not at 'normal' rates.» www.InstantDedicated.com - Online in no time
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03-12-2012, 07:24 AM #8Newbie
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We consider the construction of storage via raid-5
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03-12-2012, 07:26 AM #9Web Hosting Master
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Can you imagine the fsck time on a 100TB file system? If possible go with 50 separate volumes/file systems of 2TB each (or 33 volumes of 3TB each) or some similar division. It would also be much more reliable this way (i.e. N separate file systems, one per HDD, instead of RAID0 with 50 disks).
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03-12-2012, 07:34 AM #10Web Hosting Master
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Not that unusual: 25x 4TB disks in RAID0 or 50x disks in RAID10.
Problem #1 is being able to buy all these disks with the current market supply...
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03-12-2012, 08:54 AM #11Web Hosting Master
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It's certainly not a request we see every day, but depending on the details, it should be do-able. As it's such an unusual config, you might also find buying the server and colo-ing it gets you a wider range of interested suppliers.
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03-12-2012, 08:59 AM #12Vice Cheese
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Thanks Rob for the recommendation. We've done multiple setups of these high storage servers with the supermicro 36-drive chassis (24 front and 12 back). But we chose to go with RAID6 instead of RAID5 since RAID6 can handle 2 simultaneous drive failures among other advantages.
Who ever the OP chooses to go with I would definitely recommend he makes sure the provider gives Hardware RAID with BBU or Zero Maintenance Flash module to protect the write cache. Also, the OS needs to be installed on a separate 37th drive, you dont want a bad OS update or misconfiguration and take down the entire data in the RAID array.Email: info ///at/// honelive.com
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03-12-2012, 09:10 AM #13Vice Cheese
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Also...a couple of things...
1) You certainly dont want to do RAID0 for obvious reasons. 1 Drive get kicked out of the RAID and you are in **** creek.
2) You can do multiple separate hard drives with different partitions for EACH drive but that is just going to be a logistical and management nightmare...think twice before doing that.
3) RAID10, albeit very resilient, you will be losing 1/2 the space right off the bat...thats not the case with RAID5 and RAID6. The space you would lose going from RAID5 to RAID6 (on a 36 x 3TB setup) is only a mere 3TB give or take...but the advantages you gain from RAID6 outweighs the 3TB space you are losing.
4) Also the providers need to be clear on what kind of drives they use...whatever the case might be DO NOT go with the 5400 RPM ones...sure they are cheaper than their 7200rpm counterparts but the headaches that come along with it are much higher...trust me I know first hand. I would recommend going with either the Enterprise Constellation ES.2 (which is a LOT of money per drive especially in this market) or the cheaper "desktop" Barracuda XT drives. Western Digitals are OK too as long as they are either Enterprise or Blacks.Email: info ///at/// honelive.com
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03-12-2012, 09:13 AM #14Web Hosting Master
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The issue isn't getting you a 100 TB storage machine, it's the time it will take. I know of several people who can easily do what you'll need, but the issue is they don't keep the required stock. You might have to wait a few weeks, but this is definitely not that hard. You'll be looking at spending $2,500 a month or so.
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03-12-2012, 09:15 AM #15Disabled
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I advise to split your request on more than one server and use another raid level (5,6 or 10). A Raid0 for 100TB is more than careless
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03-12-2012, 09:19 AM #16cout << m_subtitle;
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03-12-2012, 09:23 AM #17Web Hosting Master
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03-12-2012, 09:27 AM #18Vice Cheese
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34 drives in RAID6 would bring the space a little below 100TB...but yea...you confirmed Rob's question.
The way I would really recommend which is the way we do it is 35 drives in RAID6 which would give you exactly 100TB give or take and then use the 36th drive as a hot-spare. So in case one of the drive do fail, the hot spare picks up and we can replace the bad drive.Email: info ///at/// honelive.com
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03-12-2012, 12:31 PM #19Backup Guru
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We also use Supermicro's 36-bay chassis. Each server has 2 16-drive RAID6 sets, plus a global hotspare. Using 3TB hard drives, the end result is about 75TB of usable capacity.
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03-13-2012, 12:11 AM #20Nothing is impossible!
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It will be most effective to run (2) 24 x 2TB Raid5 servers (48TB) for a total of 96TB
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