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    OVH.co.uk. the truth about the 10gbps xl servers??

    I am very interested in getting one of the xl servers at OVH.co.uk

    the reason being it seems to offer a great deal of value on storage and on BW

    However that is only if the deal is as it appears to be.

    So can i buy one of these xxl servers and fill them with data and then use as much BW as i like up to 10gbits at a cost of 89pence + VAT???

    Some have said that this is not true and that you are capped at 200mbps ??? and that the 10gbps is only for internal traffic or for people uploading traffic to your server. That seems strange i mean who would need 10gbps of incoming data??

    Our site only gets normal surfers downing data so is this service of any use to us at all??

    I mean 89p + VAT seems very very cheap for all you can eat data up to 10gbps?

    Can anyone whom has hosted there answer my question on this please.

    Do they really let you buy a £3000 pound server and limit its traffic to 200mbps after you think you will be able to use a 10gige line? obviously 1 server would not push that but say spikes up to 3gbps were required.

    Also what is the support there like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by intruder2010 View Post
    Some have said that this is not true and that you are capped at 200mbps ??? and that the 10gbps is only for internal traffic or for people uploading traffic to your server. That seems strange i mean who would need 10gbps of incoming data??
    I think you've been reading the thread about the reseller who bought from ovh.com/fr and (possibly unknowingly because he didn't read the conditions) got caught with his pants down.

    As you've mentioned pounds in your post I assume you'd be ordering from ovh.co.uk? In that case you should ignore that thread and need to refer to: http://www.ovh.co.uk/dedicated_serve...ve_hosting.xml

    That'll give you a better idea of the bandwidth mix (and speed limits) you'd be getting into, but yes you're right, they say "Traffic is unlimited. If you exceed 40 TB / month, the connection will be limited to 10 Mbps. 10 Gbps connection will be restored once additional TB of traffic have been purchased (after what you have exceeded has been taken away). £0.89 ex. VAT per TB (Minimum purchase 2TB)."

    Just bear in mind (looking at that link) that it doesn't mean you'd be able to push, say, 10Gbps down Level3 to Frankfurt.

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    It depends.
    You have certain limits to expensive carriers - for example telefonica in Spain, TPSA in Poland, Deutsche Telekom (t.: German Telecom aka DTAG) and mainly UPC (Europe wide, so Ireland, Hungary, Austria etc.) (though that isn't really enforced since they have 2x10G private peering in Vienna and multiple more in the EU).

    Peering and cheaper Transit is in general burstable up to 10Gbit.
    However, note that this bw is NOT dedicated, at any time.

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    Support is alright, not the best around but nowhere near the worst.
    As for connections you generally never seem to get full potential - especially when using shared connections and ports. I'm not saying OVH in particular, I just mean in general.

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    Support is alright, not the best around but nowhere near the worst.
    via email, I agree - you will get very slow reply, via phone is better!
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    Thanks for the welcome to the forum , thats really cool cheers,

    The information has been really helpful.

    So as long as my traffic does not all come from one geographical source then it looks like the server can push through some good BW especially to the US where is says unlimited?

    The support says only 5 days per week? that can't be correct surely, if your server went down at friday 7pm you cant wait till monday to get things fixed up ? there is no phone or ticket tech over the weekends??

    Am i reading this correctly?

    Same for another hosting company that was recommended to me id3.net? they have no support in evenings or weekend? is that really true?

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    No, odds are you will not have good bandwidth to the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virtuallynathan View Post
    No, odds are you will not have good bandwidth to the US.

    Oversold or bad routing or what do you mean?

    I'm sure NObody can do 89p/tb all you can eat data anywhere on good networks, but maybe it would be acceptable for certain things.

    That server would be hard pushed to do 10gbps i would have thought on its own, a couple of gbps in real world usage i would have thought.

    As they say.. if it looks to good to be true...

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    Quote Originally Posted by need4bw View Post
    Oversold or bad routing or what do you mean?

    I'm sure NObody can do 89p/tb all you can eat data anywhere on good networks, but maybe it would be acceptable for certain things.

    That server would be hard pushed to do 10gbps i would have thought on its own, a couple of gbps in real world usage i would have thought.

    As they say.. if it looks to good to be true...
    Transatlantic bandwidth will be heavily shared on OVH (and at that, probably every other European provider too)

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    Quote Originally Posted by intruder2010 View Post
    So as long as my traffic does not all come from one geographical source then it looks like the server can push through some good BW especially to the US where is says unlimited?
    See below

    Quote Originally Posted by intruder2010 View Post
    The support says only 5 days per week? that can't be correct surely, if your server went down at friday 7pm you cant wait till monday to get things fixed up ? there is no phone or ticket tech over the weekends??

    Am i reading this correctly?
    No. If your server crashes at 3am on a Sunday morning, sit back, do nothing, and watch. OVH's own monitoring will pick up that your server isn't responding to pings and trigger an "intervention". You'll get an email about the monitoring, an email about the intervention, and another after they've done whatever needs doing. You can also create an intervention request through their panel "OVH Manager" if you get a drive failure etc.

    People tend to confuse support with customer services. It's the CS department that only works business hours (pretty standard) and who would deal with you if you've got suspended, etc.

    Other than the above intervention system you can do pretty much everything you need through OVH Manager, so you're truly un/self-managed.

    So, for support read customer services, and for intervention team read support (as in hardware, network and power) - That way you'll better understand who does what

    Quote Originally Posted by virtuallynathan View Post
    No, odds are you will not have good bandwidth to the US.
    I presume you're referring to OVH's historical connectivity to the USA. Bear in mind that their new USA network is getting fired up at the moment which is going to cast a whole different light on things once it's completed over the next few weeks. http://weathermap.ovh.net/usa

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    USA->OVH is not bad:
    Code:
    [root@miscis-monitoring-fr1x1 ~]# wget http://speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com/downloads/test100.zip -O /dev/null -SoftLayer WDC
    --2012-03-09 15:42:47--  http://speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com/downloads/test100.zip
    Resolving speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com... 208.43.102.250
    Connecting to speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com|208.43.102.250|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104874307 (100M) [application/zip]
    Saving to: "/dev/null"
    
    100%[======================================>] 104,874,307 12.4M/s   in 15s
    
    2012-03-09 15:43:02 (6.84 MB/s) - "/dev/null" saved [104874307/104874307]
    
    [root@miscis-monitoring-fr1x1 ~]# wget http://hostnoc.net/bigtest.tgz -O /dev/null - BurstNET PA
    --2012-03-09 15:44:18--  http://hostnoc.net/bigtest.tgz
    Resolving hostnoc.net... 66.96.192.225
    Connecting to hostnoc.net|66.96.192.225|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 129674464 (124M) [application/x-tar]
    Saving to: "/dev/null"
    
    100%[======================================>] 129,674,464 30.7M/s   in 7.1s
    
    2012-03-09 15:44:26 (17.3 MB/s) - "/dev/null" saved [129674464/129674464]
    
    [root@miscis-monitoring-fr1x1 ~]# wget http://184.82.225.2/bigtest.tgz -O /dev/null - BurstNET LA
    --2012-03-09 15:44:37--  http://184.82.225.2/bigtest.tgz
    Connecting to 184.82.225.2:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 129674464 (124M) [application/x-gzip]
    Saving to: "/dev/null"
    
    100%[======================================>] 129,674,464 10.5M/s   in 14s
    
    2012-03-09 15:44:51 (8.93 MB/s) - "/dev/null" saved [129674464/129674464]
    
    [root@miscis-monitoring-fr1x1 ~]#

    OVH->USA is poor (for my server at least):

    Steadfast Networks
    Code:
    17% [=====>                                 ] 18,724,088   461K/s  eta 4m 10s
    BurstNET PA
    Code:
    58% [=====================>                 ] 61,780,368  1.15M/s  eta 15s
    HiVelocity FL
    Code:
    0% [                                       ] 736,040     99.0K/s  eta 14m 9s
    Frantech CA
    Code:
    13% [====>                                  ] 14,508,960  2.44M/s  eta 55s
    SoftLayer TX
    Code:
    12% [===>                                   ] 12,634,256  1.28M/s  eta 83s
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    Quote Originally Posted by F-DNS View Post
    See below



    No. If your server crashes at 3am on a Sunday morning, sit back, do nothing, and watch. OVH's own monitoring will pick up that your server isn't responding to pings and trigger an "intervention". You'll get an email about the monitoring, an email about the intervention, and another after they've done whatever needs doing. You can also create an intervention request through their panel "OVH Manager" if you get a drive failure etc.

    People tend to confuse support with customer services. It's the CS department that only works business hours (pretty standard) and who would deal with you if you've got suspended, etc.

    Other than the above intervention system you can do pretty much everything you need through OVH Manager, so you're truly un/self-managed.

    So, for support read customer services, and for intervention team read support (as in hardware, network and power) - That way you'll better understand who does what



    I presume you're referring to OVH's historical connectivity to the USA. Bear in mind that their new USA network is getting fired up at the moment which is going to cast a whole different light on things once it's completed over the next few weeks. http://weathermap.ovh.net/usa


    That sounds rather good, so the 89p per TB looks very attractive really considering all things, even their SLA on the Xl series looks quite good. Have you experience with pushing big BW with OVH? or know personally people that do?

    You do hear horror stories, 1 dmca and without even telling you they turn off your servers and hold your data. That would be a major worry to me hosting there. Even if you did take dmca seriously on an image host you would serious be worried about ovh pulling something like that. If they get a direct dmca and you dont even know about it then boom you're gone just like that.

    Leaseweb do give you a fair chance to remove i think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miscis View Post
    USA->OVH is not bad:
    Code:
    [root@miscis-monitoring-fr1x1 ~]# wget http://speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com/downloads/test100.zip -O /dev/null -SoftLayer WDC
    --2012-03-09 15:42:47--  http://speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com/downloads/test100.zip
    Resolving speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com... 208.43.102.250
    Connecting to speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com|208.43.102.250|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104874307 (100M) [application/zip]
    Saving to: "/dev/null"
    
    100%[======================================>] 104,874,307 12.4M/s   in 15s
    
    2012-03-09 15:43:02 (6.84 MB/s) - "/dev/null" saved [104874307/104874307]
    
    [root@miscis-monitoring-fr1x1 ~]# wget http://hostnoc.net/bigtest.tgz -O /dev/null - BurstNET PA
    --2012-03-09 15:44:18--  http://hostnoc.net/bigtest.tgz
    Resolving hostnoc.net... 66.96.192.225
    Connecting to hostnoc.net|66.96.192.225|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 129674464 (124M) [application/x-tar]
    Saving to: "/dev/null"
    
    100%[======================================>] 129,674,464 30.7M/s   in 7.1s
    
    2012-03-09 15:44:26 (17.3 MB/s) - "/dev/null" saved [129674464/129674464]
    
    [root@miscis-monitoring-fr1x1 ~]# wget http://184.82.225.2/bigtest.tgz -O /dev/null - BurstNET LA
    --2012-03-09 15:44:37--  http://184.82.225.2/bigtest.tgz
    Connecting to 184.82.225.2:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 129674464 (124M) [application/x-gzip]
    Saving to: "/dev/null"
    
    100%[======================================>] 129,674,464 10.5M/s   in 14s
    
    2012-03-09 15:44:51 (8.93 MB/s) - "/dev/null" saved [129674464/129674464]
    
    [root@miscis-monitoring-fr1x1 ~]#

    OVH->USA is poor (for my server at least):

    Steadfast Networks
    Code:
    17% [=====>                                 ] 18,724,088   461K/s  eta 4m 10s
    BurstNET PA
    Code:
    58% [=====================>                 ] 61,780,368  1.15M/s  eta 15s
    HiVelocity FL
    Code:
    0% [                                       ] 736,040     99.0K/s  eta 14m 9s
    Frantech CA
    Code:
    13% [====>                                  ] 14,508,960  2.44M/s  eta 55s
    SoftLayer TX
    Code:
    12% [===>                                   ] 12,634,256  1.28M/s  eta 83s


    That is actually pretty bad, do you have any figures for leaseweb and swiftway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by need4bw View Post
    That is actually pretty bad, do you have any figures for leaseweb and swiftway?
    LeaseWeb

    Steadfast Networks
    Code:
    100%[======================================>] 100,000,000 28.3M/s   in 4.7s
    BurstNet PA
    Code:
    100%[======================================>] 100,000,000 10.1M/s   in 11s
    HiVelocity FL
    Code:
    21% [=======>                               ] 21,362,107  1.10M/s  eta 71s
    Frantech CA
    Code:
    66% [=========================>             ] 66,730,843  10.1M/s  eta 5s
    SoftLayer TX
    Code:
    22% [=======>                               ] 22,079,499  3.02M/s  eta 30s

    SwiftWay

    Steadfast Networks
    Code:
    76% [============================>          ] 80,244,946  3.05M/s  eta 4s
    BurstNet PA
    Code:
    68% [=========================>             ] 72,052,162  9.11M/s  eta 5s
    HiVelocity FL
    Code:
    1% [                                       ] 1,134,914    151K/s  eta 9m 4s
    Frantech CA
    Code:
    2% [                                       ] 2,474,314    262K/s  eta 4m 49s
    SoftLayer TX
    Code:
    0% [                                       ] 544,130      118K/s  eta 14m 34s
    To be fair to HiVelocity, we are running a fairly busy site on a 10Mbps port. Not sure why SoftLayer performs so badly though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miscis View Post
    LeaseWeb

    Steadfast Networks
    Code:
    100%[======================================>] 100,000,000 28.3M/s   in 4.7s
    BurstNet PA
    Code:
    100%[======================================>] 100,000,000 10.1M/s   in 11s
    HiVelocity FL
    Code:
    21% [=======>                               ] 21,362,107  1.10M/s  eta 71s
    Frantech CA
    Code:
    66% [=========================>             ] 66,730,843  10.1M/s  eta 5s
    SoftLayer TX
    Code:
    22% [=======>                               ] 22,079,499  3.02M/s  eta 30s

    SwiftWay

    Steadfast Networks
    Code:
    76% [============================>          ] 80,244,946  3.05M/s  eta 4s
    BurstNet PA
    Code:
    68% [=========================>             ] 72,052,162  9.11M/s  eta 5s
    HiVelocity FL
    Code:
    1% [                                       ] 1,134,914    151K/s  eta 9m 4s
    Frantech CA
    Code:
    2% [                                       ] 2,474,314    262K/s  eta 4m 49s
    SoftLayer TX
    Code:
    0% [                                       ] 544,130      118K/s  eta 14m 34s
    To be fair to HiVelocity, we are running a fairly busy site on a 10Mbps port. Not sure why SoftLayer performs so badly though.
    thanks very much for those, that is quite helpful to compare like that. cheers.

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    I have no problems using hundreds of TBs on my OVH 10gbps servers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Host Ultra View Post
    I have no problems using hundreds of TBs on my OVH 10gbps servers.
    100's of TB per machine? how is your traffic distributed and any complaining about poor speeds?

    Do you have any of the xl series?

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    Yes 100s of TB per machine.
    I have several 10gbit HG servers.

    Some complaints about speeds mostly from USA, I know recently some OVH links have been at full capacity but I notice no difference in bandwidth usage of the servers.
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    Thanks for your reply, this gives me more confidence in ovh.

    When signing up you can select an extra 10gig connection do you think that would help speed things up to the US even though the server will never push anywhere near 10gbps anway? Perhaps having 2 10gbps would be of help?

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    I'm thinking of signing up to them too so hopefully there is no problems

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    We push over 200TB on some of our servers from OVH and they work fine. Just don't go with their .com brand, as it has different terms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Host Ultra View Post
    Yes 100s of TB per machine.
    I have several 10gbit HG servers.

    Some complaints about speeds mostly from USA, I know recently some OVH links have been at full capacity but I notice no difference in bandwidth usage of the servers.
    What type of speed can you get from a 10Gbps OVH server to USA?

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