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03-07-2012, 06:55 AM #1WHT Addict
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Good Dedicated Server Provider that Fully Manages without Control Panel?
I have a website that primarily runs on PHP and PostgreSQL.
I would like to move from my current cloud hosting to a dedicated server, but have struggled to find a vendor that will manage the server without cPanel installed. I have found that cPanel and PostregeSQL don't mix well and I don't need the features of cPanel.
I have emailed DedicatedNow as I believe they do this, but does anyone know of any other providers that "fully manage" dedicated servers with no CP? I'm talking about installing all the software I need to run my website, securing it, patching it, etc.
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03-07-2012, 07:17 AM #2Always there
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Most 'true' system administrators will actually prefer manage a server without a CP installed. Control panels automate a lot, but also bring many restrictions and limitations to configurations.
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03-07-2012, 02:15 PM #3Web Hosting Master
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http://www.nationalnet.com/ they offer fully managed hosting with no control panels.
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03-07-2012, 03:00 PM #4Web Hosting Master
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You may take a look at platinumservermanagement.com.
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03-07-2012, 03:02 PM #5cout << m_subtitle;
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Why do you only support Linux operating system with CPanel control panel?
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03-07-2012, 03:04 PM #6Doh!!
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03-07-2012, 05:12 PM #7WHT Addict
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Thanks all, am checking out the suggestions you have made. Please keep them coming.
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03-07-2012, 06:24 PM #8Web Hosting Master
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I believe unixy.net will do this. They even support third party scripts which is great.
You could also buy from any host and use a management company such as rack911. It will be a bit expensive for some but the price difference between company's that include this into their server plans vs the ones that don't may be high enough for it to be worth it. Steve from rack911 seems to me to be one of the top linux techs on this forum and would trust the company to setup anything I ask.
Another company that may be able to do this is totalserversolutions.com/dedicated-servers.html another reputable company that happens to sell dedicated servers. I believe they are owned by the same company as coloat or have some link to each other.
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03-07-2012, 06:38 PM #9Corporate Member
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03-08-2012, 02:55 AM #10WHT Addict
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Most decent sized hosting companies would offer managed services unless they are a "one-man" company. Getting the hosting company to manage the server for you would definitely be more cost effective than hiring an in-house system administrator. Prices usually start from US$150 monthly for managed services.
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03-08-2012, 03:57 AM #11Web Hosting Master
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Check out HostDime. They provide great support even without a CP.
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03-08-2012, 04:31 AM #12Newbie
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MojoHost can probably do this.
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03-08-2012, 05:51 AM #13Web Hosting Master
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100% agreed. A control panel may make a server easier to 'use', it also introduces a lot of complexity in the system that makes it more difficult to manage. Whenever something ever so slightly out of the ordinary is needed on servers with control panels installed, more time is spent working around the control panel than on the actual applications or OS.
Automation should be worse with a control panel, not better, as you're constrained to doing things the same way as the control panel. I also disagree in that some vanilla servers don't need any special attention, and that automation when done right should be able to handle (doesn't necessarily have to support) customizations. That's not to say that there shouldn't always be some manual oversight, but it doesn't necessarily have to be regular or frequent provided consideration is taken as to what's needed, and whether the automation serves all of those needs or not. Of course, all of this is much easier said than done. The reality is that circumstances are rarely ideal, so approaches also need to be realistic.ASTUTE INTERNET: Advanced, customized, and scalable solutions with AS54527 Premium Performance and Canadian Optimized Network (Level3, Shaw, CogecoPeer1, GTT/Tinet),
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03-08-2012, 06:42 AM #14WHT Addict
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DedicatedNow seems to be saying they don't support managing PostgreSQL via email.
HostDime state on their website full management is only offer with cPanel.
Unixy looks promising.
Thanks for all the comments so far.Last edited by BLazeD; 03-08-2012 at 06:45 AM.
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