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    Using different domain registrars

    I was wondering if there is a difference in the time a domain name is identified by the browser depending on which registrar one uses. For example, would a registrar like Godaddy be just as fast as a Network Solutions?

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    Hello
    There should be no difference because they are all writing records to the same shared registry database:
    http://www.crsnic.net

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    Hi jndas,

    While there may not really be a difference in the time it takes for a domain name that has been entered by the Registrar into the common database to begin working on the World Wide Web, you may experience that some Registrars may take more or less time to actually process the registration, for it to be reflected in the main database - which in turn will make it work.

    As a result, registering a domain name with Godaddy may take 72 hours, whereas going with Sunaddy may take only 24 hours.
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    Some registrars, i think dotster.com and stargateinc.com, also offer real-time registrations. The domains are added to the registry within seconds. Although, you still have to wait out the 24-72 hour propagation time to the root servers.

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    Absolutely

    Originally posted by jndas
    I was wondering if there is a difference in the time a domain name is identified by the browser depending on which registrar one uses. For example, would a registrar like Godaddy be just as fast as a Network Solutions?
    Yes, there is a difference, part of it being the time a registrar takes to process a registration, and part of it being when the registry files are actually updated.

    Consider the time for 3 different registrars. Suppose you register 3 different domain names simultaneously (3 browser windows open and the registrations completed within moment of each other).

    1. alldns.com - registrations accomplished by e-mailing a request form to them and hoping they did it as they do not send acknowledgments when there is a problem. They must do manual entries or submissions to All West, the one who maintains the regsitry, and the company they are agents of.

    2. Network Solutions. Several minutes after responding to e-mail forms, you'll know if the registration has been accepted. Updates to the registry are done twice daily, at 5 am and 5 pm ET.

    3. Open SRS - registrations are instantaneous. Any alerts about problems and notices of successful registration are instantaneous as well. Updates are in real time.

    Which registration do you think would show up first?
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    IMO, OpenSRS does not apply to this topic. You can't register a single domain directly with OpenSRS (opensrs.com) and when I say that I mean, at the registrars official web site (godaddy.com, stargateinc.com, networksolutions .com). I'm forced to register through a variety of resellers.

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    Open SRS does apply to this discussion. When a domain is registered through any of their RSPs, 000domains, for instance, you can go to the Open SRS site immdeiately afterward, log in to the Domain Manager there, and see your domain.

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    We have transferred domains from most of the registrars "networksolutions.com, 000domain.com, register.com, bulkregister.com, stargateinc.com etc...) and noted that if everything goes fine it takes approx 24 hours for a domain to transfer from every registrar. But in case if something goes wrong and it needs any manual updates - for sure it will depend upon how responsive your registrar is
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    OpenSRS is not instant registration.

    Most OpenSRS resellers have the data you enter put into the pending registrations file.
    They will then go inand manually approve them once they have checked your credit card.

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    I beg to differ. Maybe it does vary with which RSP is used, but I know for a fact the registration can be instantaneous. I registered a domain for a client last week at 000domains and went to the OpenSRS site afterwards out of curiosity. The domain was already shown there.

    That might be because 000domains has credit card checking so there is no need to hold registrations. Perhaps other RSP's don't have it so they hold registrationsm but the OpenSRS system doe sallow for instant registration and at least one of their RSPs has it.
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    OK. There most likely isn't a single 'correct' answer to this question without defining exactly where in the registration process we are starting.

    Assuming we are talking about when the registration is received at the "REGISTRAR" (not the reseller for the registrar - more on this later), then we can say that the registration is sent to the registry immediatley. Updates to the registry are done twice daily, at 5 am and 5 pm ET. As far as I know, all ICANN "REGISTRARS" submit in real time.

    Now, if we are talking about the reseller, the answer will depend on various factors, submission interface between reseller and registrar, and how the reseller wants to operate their end are the two most important. These will definitely effect how long it takes to get the registration to the registrar.

    For example, we have two programs, one uses an email template, the other is online in real time. Obviously with the email template program, there is a possibility for delays in submission to us.

    There is one surefire place to check that your registration is complete and operational: www.nsiregistry.com You may notice a 24 - 48 hour delay, THIS IS NORMAL! Checking the whois at your REGISTRAR is not sufficient as their database has the information immediately. Checking with another registrar within the 24- 48 hour period is also not sufficient because they may not have updated their whois yet.

    I hope this helps.

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    And just to muddy the water further...........

    OpenSRS recently changed their whois system so that it includes domains which have been submitted but who are not on the central registry yet.

    This was to prevent the "why is my domain showing up as available?" question.

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    Duster are you owner of 000domains.com?

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    Originally posted by GordonH
    And just to muddy the water further...........

    OpenSRS recently changed their whois system so that it includes domains which have been submitted but who are not on the central registry yet.

    This was to prevent the "why is my domain showing up as available?" question.

    Gordon
    Well now....that certainly does muddy the waters!

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    Originally posted by Angel78
    Duster are you owner of 000domains.com?
    No. I'm just one of many very satisfied customers. there are many others on this forum.

    I'm surprised you asked. It's easy enough to find the owners.

    R & K, Inc./ 000Domains.com
    P.O. Box 17352
    Little Rock, AR 72222

    My location is in Miami Beach (Florida, if you didn't know). Granted I could be an absentee owner, although I've never even been to Arkansas. However, unless R & K, Inc. is incorporated in Delaware (or possibly Nevada), doing a corporate search would disclose the officers of the corporation. I'm not one of them.

    I've gotten correpondence from a Roy Kempes there. For all I know, he could be both the R & K. That's just a guess though. It hasn't been important for me to find out.
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