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03-01-2012, 03:07 PM #1Web Hosting Master
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Anyone using Samsung 830 SSD
Has anyone tried using one of these Samsung 830 SSD's in a server?
Looking for feedback to see if they will end up stable like an Intel 320 (stable) or if this will be more like a Vertex 3 (unstable)
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03-01-2012, 03:15 PM #2THE Web Hosting Master
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We just got a set in and just started internal testing. We'll hopefully have some results to post in the next several days.
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03-01-2012, 03:22 PM #3Death Penalty for Spamers
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03-01-2012, 03:45 PM #4Aspiring Evangelist
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Any reason why you'd like to try samsung but not any other brand ?
We've been using Mushkin SSDs in heavy duty servers (4 - 8 of them in raid-10 setup, 24/7 running as database server) and they perform ridiculously better than Intel SSDs !
We are using them for around 2 years now in -multiple- servers/setups, none failed (knock on the wood).
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03-01-2012, 04:00 PM #6Aspiring Evangelist
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My bad, thought you are strictly asking for Samsung.
We started using them since they released the Io series (very first ones) and never had any issue with any of them (Io ones had 2 failure on heavy duty, RMA was fast enough).
Then started using Callisto Deluxe on 4x raid-10 setup servers, heavy duty web and mysql servers.
And using Chronos Deluxe now with Adaptec 6405 and 6405E to enable 6Gb/s in a raid-10 setup, customer flies along the server, just waved hand.
None failed yet, on single or raid setup, had absolutely no issues and are very happy with them.
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03-01-2012, 04:01 PM #7Hello World
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Instant face change of customer from crying to :- D after changing from intel 320 to mushkin callisto deluxe would do.
The mysql server that had 4x 120GB Intel 320 on adaptec 2405 raid-10 setup couldn't handle the load without IO Wait and after changing to mushkin callisto deluxe at that time, we never had any report about IO Wait again.
What sort of proof are you referring to by the way ?
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03-01-2012, 04:12 PM #9Hello World
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03-01-2012, 06:14 PM #11THE Web Hosting Master
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Intel 520 and Mushkin use Sandforce controllers, so I simply don't trust those. Sandforce is a small company with a poor history of QA. They push for performance, not reliability and compatibility.
Intel, Samsung, and Fusion-io are the only brands I trust in SSDs.Karl Zimmerman - Founder & CEO of Steadfast
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03-03-2012, 10:23 AM #12Hello World
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I agree and I think most web hosts and clients in the know, would too.
Original poster's question goes to stability and reliability of the SSD not it's performance, which usually would rule out Sandforce based SSDs.
I just got myself some Samsung 830 SSDs to try out but in local test environment so not production server. I think the only concern I have with is how Samsung 830's doesn't do active garbage collection compared to Intel 320s if you read review at http://www.anandtech.com/show/4863/t...ssd-830-review and specific page regarding Samsung 830 GC http://www.anandtech.com/show/4863/t...d-830-review/6
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03-04-2012, 12:38 AM #14THE Web Hosting Master
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In our basic testing, very basic at this point, the 64GB Samsung 830 is basically the same speed as a 300GB Intel 320 in basically all cases, except in sequential reads, where it is twice as fast, likely from SATA3. Now, this may not seem like much, but a SSD 5 times the side should trounce a much smaller drive, the fact they're basically even at that spec, and a Samsung 830 256GB will be twice as fast, their is a significant speed advantage to the Samsung 830.
The thing we're going to be testing next is how the garbage collection difference works in a real world scenario. That testing will take longer, but we'll see.Karl Zimmerman - Founder & CEO of Steadfast
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03-04-2012, 03:34 AM #15Web Hosting Master
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looking forward to see the test results
samsung 830 looks petty nice~
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04-04-2012, 08:58 PM #16Web Hosting Guru
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I am curious if you guys had any results yet you would like to share :-)
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I've had a 128GB Samsung 830 in my Thinkpad for about a month now and it definitely performs pretty well...
Interested in seeing how they do in a server environment
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04-04-2012, 09:27 PM #18Solid State
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I'm fairly sure I have that line of SSDs on my ReliableSite nodes and they have been great for the past few months.
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Oh, we have some results, I don't have the specifics here, but the Samsung 830 is SIGNIFICANTLY faster than the Intel 320's. We had a 64GB Samsung 830 keeping up with the Intel 320 300GB, except much faster in sequential reads, where it took advantage of SATA3, but then going to a 256GB Samsung most tests were easily twice the speed as the 300GB Intel 320. Through our testing, they've been quite reliable, and we really didn't see much performance degradation in real-use type scenarios, all that was easily restored with a trim as well then.
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I'm using some 830 SSD's in a few MySQL DB servers. I must say, i'm very happy with the results! The throughput for these SSD's are great, and they much much! faster than the Intel 320 SSD's.
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04-07-2012, 07:13 AM #24Web Hosting Master
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how many yeas could we expect samsung 830 to run fine until it becomes read-only? let's say we use 830 on a forum that always have 20,000 people online?
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