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Old 02-07-2012, 12:02 PM
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"Taxation by Misrepresentation", an E-book by John W. Benson, is by far the best explanation of our income tax system and the laws involved in compelling citizens to pay income tax.

All IRS processes and procedures are based on the revenue procedures employed by the king's revenue officials in the Exchequer (Treasury) in 1791, dressed up in modern garb. [more]
I have been hearing bits and pieces along these lines over the last few years...

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Old 02-07-2012, 12:33 PM
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This is one of those internet myths do not always believe what you read.

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Old 02-07-2012, 12:50 PM
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Income Tax is Voluntary
The income tax is not voluntary, some countries like China has the lowest tax, other parts of the world up to 40% (Example: UK, depends on income)

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Old 02-07-2012, 02:26 PM
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Good government not need a TAX

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Old 02-07-2012, 05:18 PM
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Oh ... that is an interesting view. How do government get money in order to operate?

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Old 02-07-2012, 05:26 PM
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Prior to personal income tax, the main source of taxation in the US was tariffs.

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Old 02-07-2012, 05:33 PM
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Oh ... that is an interesting view. How do government get money in order to operate?
Government is the biggest business in the country. They can easily work out a way to be profitable without taxes.

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Old 02-07-2012, 06:06 PM
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Government is the biggest business in the country. They can easily work out a way to be profitable without taxes.
Maybe open up a couple hot dog stands?

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Old 02-07-2012, 06:20 PM
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Government is the biggest business in the country. They can easily work out a way to be profitable without taxes.
How exactly?

Just to keep the MoD in action is a pretty number per year let alone everything else...

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Old 02-07-2012, 08:17 PM
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Is this a Matthew Lesko production?

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Old 02-07-2012, 11:28 PM
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"Technically" income tax is voluntary, to an extent.

Depending on what you claim on your taxes, depends on how much of an interest free loan the government gets every year.

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Old 02-07-2012, 11:35 PM
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Government is the biggest business in the country. They can easily work out a way to be profitable without taxes.
Yes, but it would involve them operating like a business: no financial hand-outs, free services (except as "upsell opportunities"), etc.

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Old 02-08-2012, 08:14 AM
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I WISH that income tax was voluntary

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Old 02-08-2012, 08:29 AM
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Old 02-08-2012, 08:40 AM
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They don't mind putting their ex agents that have claimed this in jail, nor do they mind putting Irwin Schiff away (a wealthy man through tax protest activity, even while sitting long times in jail)

If they didn't work for them, I doubt their arguments will work for you.

Social Security was also a 'voluntary' program when it was passed and even newspapers ads of old can be found touting that, but it is enforced as mandatory.

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