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02-07-2012, 10:28 AM #1Newbie
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Is this allowed on a VPS ? Please help
Hello,
I was wondering if scanning for USA socks 4/5 from a VPS is allowed or is it illegal ?
If its allowed, do you know any providers that don't have anything against this practice ?
Or should I look for a dedicated server instead of a VPS ?
I am not that tech savvy and I appreciate your help, thank you.0
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02-07-2012, 10:31 AM #2Web Hosting Master
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This is port scanning and is usually against many hosts terms of service. It doesn't matter if you use a VPS or Dedicated Server, check their terms.
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02-07-2012, 10:41 AM #3Newbie
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Thank you for your reply.
Do you know of any provider which allows port scanning ? On either one, vps or dedicated ?
Any other opinions ?0
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02-07-2012, 10:52 AM #4Managed VPS Experts
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02-07-2012, 11:13 AM #5Newbie
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Thank you guys for the replies. I am not sure if this is illegal or not.
Anyway, I assume most of the domestic USA providers don't allow this if its against the law in some states.
Do you know of any other offshore reliable providers which may allow port scanning ?
Thank you again0
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02-07-2012, 12:56 PM #6Newbie
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It is kind of bizarre to visit a forum where many participants expend significant effort defending against port scanning (and its associated hacking) and asking for advice on finding a host that allows it to be done.
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02-07-2012, 12:56 PM #7WebHostingTalk Lover
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Most likely this is not ok, but feel free to try the Find a Host option here on WHT and see if any hosts can help with it
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02-07-2012, 01:00 PM #8Newbie
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02-07-2012, 02:28 PM #9Web Hosting Master
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02-07-2012, 03:31 PM #10Newbie
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Thanks again.
Lets get things straight. I have no idea about servers and vps and thats why I came here asking for help and guidance, not to be insulted and accused.
Second, I have no intent to do anything illegal or hacking or anything like that, this is the main reason I am asking for a hosting company which allows this activity.
Third, I plan to scan for socks 4/5 which are public from my knowledge and the IP's will be used for regular web browsing and thats it.
So, if anyone can help me find a hosting company suited to my needs ? its great.
I appreciate this forum and the people around either way.0
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02-07-2012, 03:36 PM #11Web Hosting Master
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Network/port scanning is (should be) forbidden by any decent ISP.
That being said, by the amount of port scanning i see from Amazon AWS address space i would say they don't care too much about these things.0
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02-07-2012, 03:41 PM #12Newbie
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02-07-2012, 03:55 PM #13Newbie
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Yes I need it, for advertising purposes. Why are you so disturbed by it ?
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02-07-2012, 04:51 PM #14Newbie
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So, once again, can anyone recommend me a provider which has nothing against this type of activity ?
Thank you in advanced, I appreciate all answers.0
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02-07-2012, 06:43 PM #15Newbie
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What you call "advertising" is what I call spam. That makes you a parasite in the Internet community.
If you find a sleazy ISP to host with, you will find out why so many ISP's won't let you do what you want to do.
Your bad behavior gets their server IP addresses blacklisted.0
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02-07-2012, 07:04 PM #16Aspiring Evangelist
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Port scanning is considered "hostile" activity. If you port scan any US government website, they will send someone to tell you to knock it off (not from my personal experience, but from other people doing it at jobs where I was managing the network).
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02-07-2012, 07:07 PM #17Hello World
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02-07-2012, 08:10 PM #19Newbie
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You have no clue about advertising and spam, rest assure I am not spamming and I am not engaged in any illegal activity. Heres a question for that bee brain of yours:
Why would I ask any advice if what I was doing was illegal or spammy ? And why would I comply with a hosting provider TOS ? Couldn't I just buy one, use it, get kicked and buy another one and so on ?
Answer: What I am doing and what I plan to do is beyond your comprehension and thats why I don't intend to explain it. Your judgement is full of flaws but I wont teach you about logic and arguments. You have a lot to learn about advertising.
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02-07-2012, 08:17 PM #20Newbie
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02-07-2012, 09:51 PM #21(formerly WhichGunDotCom)
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Unless you can explain why you need to do this for legitimate activity I doubt you will receive any help here.
You claim to "have no idea about servers", yet you seem to require something very specific (and that someone who truly knows nothing would not be familiar with). Then, when asked why you need to be able to do this, first you say it's "for regular web browsing", then say it's "beyond our comprehension".
So if you truly want our help, you are going to need to explain exactly what you need and why. Without this information, we are not able to give any assistance. If you have a truly legitimate need for this capability, surely you don't have any problems explaining it, right?Last edited by VectorVPS; 02-07-2012 at 09:54 PM.
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02-07-2012, 09:54 PM #22Web Hosting Master
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What reason would you need to port scan servers for "advertising" purposes? I'm curious.
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02-08-2012, 02:38 AM #23Web Hosting Master
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02-08-2012, 09:22 AM #24Newbie
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I will try to answer your questions.
I am not a tech person but I am very specific to my needs because I hired a person who will manage the server for me and I took on the task to find a reliable provider since I am paying, so here I am.
The socks will be used for regular web browsing, with "beyond your comprehension" I was referring to the member who accused me and what I meant was its not easy or simple to explain how is this related to advertising and what or how I am doing exactly what I plan to do. Rest assured its nothing illegal or spammy or anything related to such activities. Since the ultimate goal is to make money I reserve the right to keep the details for myself. I hope nobody will be offended.
I learned about port scanning from a members post above, what I initially asked and what I need is US socks 4/5 which will be used for regular web browsing by me employees just like a proxy or vpn but this solution is cheaper in regards to the number of IPs. This is directly related to advertising and this is the part that is complicated.
Again, thank you for your replies, I appreciate the concerns from the community.
If you can suggest such a provider please do so.0
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02-08-2012, 11:18 AM #25WHT Addict
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I'm not defending the op here (I'm actually against his intentions) but port scanning can be used as a security measure if you are checking to make sure only specific ports on another server you already own is open. I think this is a legitimite use of the requirement (port scanning in general).
Now then you should never port scan an IP without the owner's consent. So just randomly scanning for open ports is not advisable and can cause your service to be suspended or terminated by the provider.
Given that there are providers who are almost completely hands off where they will let you do what you want assuming it isn't illegal and doesn't result in a distributed denial of service attack.
Now then. The op's post said he wanted to scan for Socks 4/5 proxies. Well good luck because that will get your account suspended eventually on any provider. That will not be permitted by anyone since you will be falling into paragraph 2 above. If you need a proxy beyond what is out there for free then you will just have to go and subscribe to one. No way around that.
FYI - Port scanning my server's IP will likely end up getting your IP temporarily blocked since it may be detected as a hostile activity.0
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