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    MineCraft

    Is there money there to be made? how hard is it to setup?

    seems like its popular but i dont get why.

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    It is easy to setup and it is a nice game. I think those setup are for private servers, you can make money from the hosting of such servers. It is rather a niche market though

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    I set up a server the other day to give it a go, there's something about it that's pretty great however I couldn't spend too long on it, Battlefield 3 on the xbox is my kind of thing. As for the original question though, I believe it's a risky market, with Minecraft being a possible short-term hype. I think if you were to go into hosting Minecraft then you should open up to other releases too, probably not those with large license fees though like some EA titles.

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    Where there's a demand there is money to be made!

    They are rather easy to setup. It's just keeping onto of the resource usage for Java.

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    Seems like it could be a 'fad.' Be careful.
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    If you already have a virtualisation service adding MineCraft services will not cost you anything... There are many companies now offering MineCraft services and it seems to be growing all the time. It might not be worth it if you are starting from new and you need to buy/rent hardware just for this service.

    Personally I would say go for it if you can then offer it! Just make sure you can support it well enough!

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    It's the fad I wonder about now... could be a big hype issue. and fact its java means heavy resources means you need serious hardware to run the games so high start up costs.

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    The "fad" has been going strong for over a year now and I don't think it is slowing any. Lego is looking at creating a Minecraft set of their building blocks.
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    Minecraft can be a pig. I suspect it's quite a bit different resource-wise than your TF2's, BC's, etc.

    In FPSers you can estimate peak resource usage; X amount of CPU per slot, Y amount of memory per map, etc.

    But Minecraft is an ever-evolving world. It gets bigger and bigger. So there can--long term--be a storage component to it you'd have to monitor. Moment-to-moment, resources will be based on how much of the world is loaded in order to present it to the players; they could all be in one area or spread out, which can make a huge difference.

    In general it's a memory hog, I think. So that's the resource you want to be most careful with.

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    I'd also mention that Minecraft can bring in a whole new kind of attitude. Because this is a world the players themselves build, they can become very attached to it. If something happens to the game it can't just be reinstalled; their created world could disappear. That said, you might look into offering regular world backups for an added fee.

    If something does happen that loses the world, expect extremely irate users. Even hosting a small MC server for my clan, there was epic drama of the likes you'd never see in a FPS where people just blow each other up.
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    "a pig" is massively understating how much it abuses resources
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    sounds like its more stressful then worth dealing with

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    It's certainly stressful given the many factors that go into keeping a server stable. Not to mention keeping hundreds running. You need serious CPU power and plenty of RAM.
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    The game is resourceful.

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    If you know what you're doing, you can get a lot of business for MC servers. It's MASSIVE!
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    We have quite a few customers who sell Minecraft servers, and they seem to be doing well for themselves. I would tell you to give it a serious look!
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    We never originally intended Minecraft hosting at all but we had a few VPS customers request installation of it. We then started getting direct emails asking for specific Minecraft packages so the company was relaunched including a Minecraft host offering ... and now it's our most popular product.

    It certainly presents a very different set of challenges to offering shared / VPS hosting. The clients tend to have a lot more support requests such as plugin installation and if you don't manage your servers well you very quickly find yourself maxing out on RAM and CPU. It's certainly been a learning process for the company. Also a lot of the clientele are under 18 -- you need to ensure that if this is the case you get the parents to make the order. We've had a couple of orders that have gone through where we've later been (quite rightly) contacted by the parents and had to provide a refund.

    My main advice to anyone looking to get into this market is to make sure you spend plenty of time getting to know how Minecraft servers work -- play around a little running one on a spare VPS or something. You'll need to ensure you have plenty of RAM and *fast* disks if you don't want lag. And don't "fill" a box, thinking that you've got loads of spare RAM /disk space. Remember your clients resource usage will creep as they increase the size of their world data and start loading lots of plugins. And tweak the hell out of your Java configuration so that it's optimized for Minecraft.
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    Minecraft

    They can use lots of memory though! Be careful not to oversell!

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    It's a fantastic game and it's only going to get bigger and bigger as more mods become available. There's definitely a big market for it.

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    Last I heard, Minecraft was going to be available on XBox. That's a huge statement if anyone's considering entering the market. I host a few Minecraft servers, and the game sure is a resource hog. It's a more "Breaking Even" niche because competition is really driving down prices. Money can be made by having value added services.

    Minecraft Installation: $x.xx
    Minecraft Control Panel: $xx.xx/mo
    Minecraft Bukkit Installation: $x.xx
    Minecraft Configuration: $x.xx
    etc etc,.

    Also, kids are running their own "Hosting Companies" reselling other companies servers / VPSes. The kids are the under cutters, so beware when entering this market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawrence Wright View Post
    Last I heard, Minecraft was going to be available on XBox. That's a huge statement if anyone's considering entering the market. I host a few Minecraft servers, and the game sure is a resource hog. It's a more "Breaking Even" niche because competition is really driving down prices. Money can be made by having value added services.

    Minecraft Installation: $x.xx
    Minecraft Control Panel: $xx.xx/mo
    Minecraft Bukkit Installation: $x.xx
    Minecraft Configuration: $x.xx
    etc etc,.

    Also, kids are running their own "Hosting Companies" reselling other companies servers / VPSes. The kids are the under cutters, so beware when entering this market.
    Yes, it's really terrible... They compete to see who can charge the least because they aren't even in the market to make money.
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    And after prices diving by kids other companys must do it same or they will not have customers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawrence Wright View Post
    Also, kids are running their own "Hosting Companies" reselling other companies servers / VPSes. The kids are the under cutters, so beware when entering this market.
    I'll agree on this, it's quite frustrating to hear the horror stories some of our clients have had in the past. I mean, do you really expect to get a 1GB server for only $10 when the cost /GB on a dedicated server is significantly higher? Plus the added costs for licensing, taxes, and even staff?

    I don't even understand why these people even bother..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cookiesowns View Post
    I'll agree on this, it's quite frustrating to hear the horror stories some of our clients have had in the past. I mean, do you really expect to get a 1GB server for only $10 when the cost /GB on a dedicated server is significantly higher? Plus the added costs for licensing, taxes, and even staff?

    I don't even understand why these people even bother..
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    I expect that Minecraft, being a game that seems to hit the online equivalent of 'new vintage', will eventually fade down to a cult following after a few years... however I expect that 10 years from now there will still be groups of people passionate about the game looking for servers to host it on!
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    Definitively money to be made, and fast money as this is a special service that is in high demand with less competition than you'll find for regular hosting services.

    I'm actually providing support services to one and have spoken to a few others, they all say sales are booming all with free advertising a word of mouth.

    "hey cool you have your own minecraft server! where can I get one!?"

    You cannot oversell any services as minecraft is a resource hog, most of the people are ignorant kids who ask a lot of questions for support.. But then they tell all their friends how to get a minecraft server..

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