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12-30-2011, 01:46 AM #1Grand Nagus
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Resellers with non-Softlayer servers?
As the title suggests I'm looking for reseller suggestions that have servers at DC's anywhere but Softlayer.
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12-30-2011, 02:07 AM #2Web Hosting Master
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Off the top of my head, I believe InnoHosting and Eleven2 don't use Softlayer. Trying to avoid SoftLayer, eh?
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12-30-2011, 02:15 AM #3Web Hosting Master
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You're looking for a provider which resells themselves but not from Softlayer? That's the way I originally read it but that seems a bit of an odd request. or, are you looking for providers which have reseller programs (and aren't reselling servers from Softlayer themselves)?
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12-30-2011, 02:21 AM #4Grand Nagus
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Yep.
In the perfect world I would find a top notch quality host* for $10/mo, LiteSpeed, in business for 5+ years run by more than 2 adults, near 100% uptime and WebNX datacenter.
*My personal definition of top notch quality host: httpme, idologic, clook, rochen, knownhost (no longer offers reseller), etc.
EZPZ and InnoHosting are currently on my short list. I'll have to double check where HawkHost and DowntownHost's servers are located. I wish StableHost was cheaper and offered a WHT coupon.
OK end of "the perfect world", back to reality.What's your budget?
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12-30-2011, 02:29 AM #5Managed Services Specialist
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EZPZ use softlayer for their Dallas Operations.
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12-30-2011, 02:36 AM #6Grand Nagus
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Per their Reseller Hosting Offers thread dated 12/5/2011:
We operate servers from three locations, the UK (Kent Science Park) and the US (Softlayer Dallas and WebNX LA) to give you the fastest connection possible.
More on the datacentres can be found here.What's your budget?
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12-30-2011, 03:50 AM #7
If you don't mind me asking, why do you want to avoid SoftLayer?
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12-30-2011, 04:19 AM #8Managed Services Specialist
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12-30-2011, 05:58 AM #9Cloud & Web Hosting Specialist
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12-30-2011, 07:21 AM #10Moving the Web Forward
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Thats not a very good assumption to be making, hardware will vary from web host to web host (not resting solely on the DC in which the servers are located in).
@ OP I think you are putting to much of an emphasis on items that wont necessarily guarantee a solid service. Example, you mentioned Litespeed (which is pretty much irrelevant to the end user for shared web hosting). Looking at DC's is important, but ultimatley it really comes down to Network speed, hardware, how the company is managed and how many users the company is generally putting on each box.Looking for an awesome VPS Offer? CLICK HERE
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12-30-2011, 07:56 AM #11ShillBuster
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TurnkeyInternet and Hostdime.....both they have their own DC's.
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12-30-2011, 09:21 AM #12Grand Nagus
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12-30-2011, 10:14 AM #13WHT Addict
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Dan, mentioned that most of its recent problems are caused by poor hardware SoftLayer and poor support.
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1111639
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12-30-2011, 10:20 AM #14Grand Nagus
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What's your budget?
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12-30-2011, 11:04 AM #15Web Hosting Master
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I recommend Hostdime/Surpasshosting.
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12-30-2011, 01:04 PM #16Web Hosting Master
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12-30-2011, 01:13 PM #17Web Host Reviewer
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Stablehost, Stream101 and SpeedySparrow are all non-SL that I know of.
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12-30-2011, 02:13 PM #18Web Hosting Master
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12-30-2011, 09:43 PM #19Web Hosting Master
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This is news to us and looking at all the hardware we have with Softlayer. I think this is a matter of people confusing a single failure and associating that with an entire datacenter. The reality is hardware does fail and it's only a matter of time until you encounter it. You can decrease your chances by using more reliable hardware. Always use raid so single drive failures there is a less chance of total data loss. If you're using SATA disks then consider SAS disks they are a heck of a lot more reliable in a server environment.
This doesn't even take into account the total lack of due diligence a lot of people take with their servers. They don't run their own tests on them when being deployed. They do not actively monitor file system health, disk health or anything of that nature. So a minor issue becomes a major issue 3 months later when something fails in a catastrophic way. If you had medium errors from a disk for 3 months you should have it replaced if they did not stop within a short time. You did not so it ends up eventually failing and in the process causing file system issues.
Sorry for the rant but I think to lump anyone using a datacenter in as having inferior hardware because some providers had issues. So what they had issues but who knows the true details as to why. I've heard of providers not knowing how to do file system checks. So an issue where they need to fix things with an alternative super block highly unlikely to happen. If it wasn't Softlayer but someone else I would say the same thing here.█ Tony B. - Chief Executive Officer
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12-31-2011, 12:16 AM #20Junior Guru Wannabe
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There are several DC Hosting firms to consider ----
SingleHop is one, there are also several resellers that offer multihome space at various Geo Locations, Softlayer is one of the largest and most resellers are resellers from softlayer, planet, hostgator which all reside in the Softlayer Network....
If you are looking for a reseller, server owner, outside the softlayer netowkr do a whois on their IP it will show what DC they are using on their main IP then contact their support staff and ask what Geo Location they service out of ...
Dallas, Washington, Seattle = SoftlayerRodney Payne
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12-31-2011, 02:24 AM #21Web Hosting Master
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+1 for Hostdime they provide service from owned Datacenter
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01-04-2012, 05:51 PM #24New Member
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I would argue SoftLayer uses the best quality hardware. Servers, switches, storage, components - all first rate. Everything is enterprise class unlike a number of hosts selling desktops as servers.
From what I've read in both threads - this one and the EZPZ one referenced. It appears as though there was a drive issue. So what would be an inferior drive?
With only a few drive manufacturers left, I guess one would have to deduce the inferior product came from either Seagate, Western Digital / Hitachi, or Toshiba. Having had extensive experience with all three drive vendors, I wouldn't classify any of them as offering inferior product.
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