Results 1 to 24 of 24
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Ferenginar
    Posts
    4,157

    * Resellers with non-Softlayer servers?

    As the title suggests I'm looking for reseller suggestions that have servers at DC's anywhere but Softlayer.

    WHT don't let me down!
    What's your budget?

    Seriously, what's your budget?

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    San Diego, California
    Posts
    865
    Off the top of my head, I believe InnoHosting and Eleven2 don't use Softlayer. Trying to avoid SoftLayer, eh?
    Othio Hosting - Private-Label cPanel Reseller Hosting
    True 24x7 Support | SSD Storage | cPanel+WHM | R1Soft Backups

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    1,112
    You're looking for a provider which resells themselves but not from Softlayer? That's the way I originally read it but that seems a bit of an odd request. or, are you looking for providers which have reseller programs (and aren't reselling servers from Softlayer themselves)?

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Ferenginar
    Posts
    4,157
    Quote Originally Posted by BrettB View Post
    Off the top of my head, I believe InnoHosting and Eleven2 don't use Softlayer. Trying to avoid SoftLayer, eh?
    Yep.

    In the perfect world I would find a top notch quality host* for $10/mo, LiteSpeed, in business for 5+ years run by more than 2 adults, near 100% uptime and WebNX datacenter.

    *My personal definition of top notch quality host: httpme, idologic, clook, rochen, knownhost (no longer offers reseller), etc.

    EZPZ and InnoHosting are currently on my short list. I'll have to double check where HawkHost and DowntownHost's servers are located. I wish StableHost was cheaper and offered a WHT coupon.

    OK end of "the perfect world", back to reality.
    What's your budget?

    Seriously, what's your budget?

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    4,124
    EZPZ use softlayer for their Dallas Operations.
    Kushal || Host4Geeks || Operating Fully Owned Infrastructure out of 4 Global Datacenters US / UK / India
    Reseller Hosting - Pure SSD | Nginx + LSAPI | Let's Encrypt | WHMCS or Blesta | DDoS Protection| 24x7 Support
    Fully Managed SSD VPS - cPanel /WHM | Softaculous | Let's Encrypt | DDoS Protection | Proactive Monitoring | Server Hardening
    Datacenters - Los Angeles, CA | Lenoir, NC | London, UK |Pune, India

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Ferenginar
    Posts
    4,157
    Quote Originally Posted by PromptSpace-Kushal View Post
    EZPZ use softlayer for their Dallas Operations.
    Per their Reseller Hosting Offers thread dated 12/5/2011:

    We operate servers from three locations, the UK (Kent Science Park) and the US (Softlayer Dallas and WebNX LA) to give you the fastest connection possible.

    More on the datacentres can be found here.
    What's your budget?

    Seriously, what's your budget?

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Montreal
    Posts
    1,697
    If you don't mind me asking, why do you want to avoid SoftLayer?
    CrocWeb Cloud - High Availability Cloud Website Hosting
    > NVMe Storage, LSCache, Redis, Global CDN, Unlimited SSL
    > Triple Data Replication, Automated Server Failover
    > Bad Bots, Malware, DDoS Protection

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    4,124
    Quote Originally Posted by CrocWeb View Post
    If you don't mind me asking, why do you want to avoid SoftLayer?
    Although never used them, but they supposedly provide inferior quality hardware.
    Kushal || Host4Geeks || Operating Fully Owned Infrastructure out of 4 Global Datacenters US / UK / India
    Reseller Hosting - Pure SSD | Nginx + LSAPI | Let's Encrypt | WHMCS or Blesta | DDoS Protection| 24x7 Support
    Fully Managed SSD VPS - cPanel /WHM | Softaculous | Let's Encrypt | DDoS Protection | Proactive Monitoring | Server Hardening
    Datacenters - Los Angeles, CA | Lenoir, NC | London, UK |Pune, India

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    4,332
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueHayes View Post
    You're looking for a provider which resells themselves but not from Softlayer? That's the way I originally read it but that seems a bit of an odd request. or, are you looking for providers which have reseller programs (and aren't reselling servers from Softlayer themselves)?
    AFAIK the OP is looking for reseller hosting services.
    [ James Lee - Cloud & Web Hosting Specialist 10+ Years WHT Veteran]

    [ Magento Performance Consultation by Magento Master ]

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Modesto California
    Posts
    6,858
    Quote Originally Posted by PromptSpace-Kushal View Post
    Although never used them, but they supposedly provide inferior quality hardware.
    Thats not a very good assumption to be making, hardware will vary from web host to web host (not resting solely on the DC in which the servers are located in).

    @ OP I think you are putting to much of an emphasis on items that wont necessarily guarantee a solid service. Example, you mentioned Litespeed (which is pretty much irrelevant to the end user for shared web hosting). Looking at DC's is important, but ultimatley it really comes down to Network speed, hardware, how the company is managed and how many users the company is generally putting on each box.
    Looking for an awesome VPS Offer? CLICK HERE

    "Knowing is not enough, we must apply. Willing is not enough, we must do." – Bruce Lee

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    Spain
    Posts
    4,251
    TurnkeyInternet and Hostdime.....both they have their own DC's.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Ferenginar
    Posts
    4,157
    Quote Originally Posted by CrocWeb View Post
    If you don't mind me asking, why do you want to avoid SoftLayer?
    Because I'm the OP and that's what I want?

    As a consumer (I'm not a web host) I like to have choices.

    Thank you everyone for the replies and please keep the suggestions coming in.
    What's your budget?

    Seriously, what's your budget?

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Internet
    Posts
    113
    Quote Originally Posted by PromptSpace-Kushal View Post
    EZPZ use softlayer for their Dallas Operations.
    Dan, mentioned that most of its recent problems are caused by poor hardware SoftLayer and poor support.

    http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1111639

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Ferenginar
    Posts
    4,157
    Quote Originally Posted by Hexpress View Post
    Dan, mentioned that most of its recent problems are caused by poor hardware SoftLayer and poor support.

    http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1111639
    Bingo, that's what caused me to create this thread.

    To be fair, I had a shared hosting account with HawkHost.com at Softlayer Dallas or Seattle. The web site isn't mission critical and AFAIK the uptime has been very good.
    What's your budget?

    Seriously, what's your budget?

  15. #15
    I recommend Hostdime/Surpasshosting.
    domainCart - PHP / AJAX Domain and Hosting Order Script | WHMCS Alternative
    Supports 700+ domain extensions, 27+ payment gateways, multi-currency with auto exchange..
    www.domaincart.net | Demo (all in one - without template)

  16. #16
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
    Posts
    1,783
    Quote Originally Posted by PromptSpace-Kushal View Post
    Although never used them, but they supposedly provide inferior quality hardware.
    At one time we had utilized Softlayer servers for our shared hosting nodes. We did have some issues with hardware and although the support was quick, it was quite limited considering the high prices we were paying per server.
    U.S.A. High Resource allocation global cloud hosting serving 310,000 clients since 2008 | Offering both cPanel & DirectAdmin
    WebsitePlex.com | Instant Activation | Alpha, Master, Reseller & Cloud Hosting
    Recurring Affiliate Program Pays 20% of total revenue for life | 30 Day Trial

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Kepler 62f
    Posts
    16,703
    Stablehost, Stream101 and SpeedySparrow are all non-SL that I know of.
    Each is a reseller host I'd trust in North America.
    || Need a good host?
    || See my Suggested Hosts List || Editorial: EIG/Site5/Arvixe/Hostgator Alternatives
    ||

  18. #18
    Join Date
    Apr 2001
    Location
    Paradise
    Posts
    12,052
    I'll have to double check where HawkHost and DowntownHost's servers are located
    We have servers in different datacenters (including SL/The Planet)
    Shared Web Hosting - Reseller Hosting - Semi-Dedicated Servers - SolusVM/XEN VPS
    LiteSpeed Powered - R1Soft Continuous Data Protection - 24/7 Chat/Email/Helpdesk Support
    Cpanel/WHM - Softaculous - R1soft Backup - Litespeed - Cloudlinux -Site Builder- SSH support - Account Migration
    DowntownHost LLC - In Business since 2001- West/Center/East USA - Netherlands - Singapore

  19. #19
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    3,785
    Quote Originally Posted by PromptSpace-Kushal View Post
    Although never used them, but they supposedly provide inferior quality hardware.
    This is news to us and looking at all the hardware we have with Softlayer. I think this is a matter of people confusing a single failure and associating that with an entire datacenter. The reality is hardware does fail and it's only a matter of time until you encounter it. You can decrease your chances by using more reliable hardware. Always use raid so single drive failures there is a less chance of total data loss. If you're using SATA disks then consider SAS disks they are a heck of a lot more reliable in a server environment.

    This doesn't even take into account the total lack of due diligence a lot of people take with their servers. They don't run their own tests on them when being deployed. They do not actively monitor file system health, disk health or anything of that nature. So a minor issue becomes a major issue 3 months later when something fails in a catastrophic way. If you had medium errors from a disk for 3 months you should have it replaced if they did not stop within a short time. You did not so it ends up eventually failing and in the process causing file system issues.

    Sorry for the rant but I think to lump anyone using a datacenter in as having inferior hardware because some providers had issues. So what they had issues but who knows the true details as to why. I've heard of providers not knowing how to do file system checks. So an issue where they need to fix things with an alternative super block highly unlikely to happen. If it wasn't Softlayer but someone else I would say the same thing here.
    Tony B. - Chief Executive Officer
    Hawk Host Inc. Proudly serving websites since 2004
    Quality Shared and Cloud Hosting
    PHP 5.2.x - PHP 8.1.X Support!

  20. #20
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Dallas Texas
    Posts
    78
    There are several DC Hosting firms to consider ----
    SingleHop is one, there are also several resellers that offer multihome space at various Geo Locations, Softlayer is one of the largest and most resellers are resellers from softlayer, planet, hostgator which all reside in the Softlayer Network....
    If you are looking for a reseller, server owner, outside the softlayer netowkr do a whois on their IP it will show what DC they are using on their main IP then contact their support staff and ask what Geo Location they service out of ...
    Dallas, Washington, Seattle = Softlayer
    Rodney Payne

  21. #21
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Pennsylvania
    Posts
    778
    Quote Originally Posted by RossMAN View Post
    Per their Reseller Hosting Offers thread dated 12/5/2011:
    EZPZ does indeed use Softlayer Dallas for their reseller hosting. They use LA for their US-based VPS servers. I have both currently.
    The world would be a better place if people drank better coffee.

  22. #22
    +1 for Hostdime they provide service from owned Datacenter

  23. #23
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    1,112
    Quote Originally Posted by Sreeganesh View Post
    +1 for Hostdime they provide service from owned Datacenter
    I could provide services from my own "datacenter", it doesn't necessarily mean that the service is good at all. In fact, my "datacenter" could be my garage. Poor recommendation.

  24. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by PromptSpace-Kushal View Post
    Although never used them, but they supposedly provide inferior quality hardware.
    I would argue SoftLayer uses the best quality hardware. Servers, switches, storage, components - all first rate. Everything is enterprise class unlike a number of hosts selling desktops as servers.

    From what I've read in both threads - this one and the EZPZ one referenced. It appears as though there was a drive issue. So what would be an inferior drive?

    With only a few drive manufacturers left, I guess one would have to deduce the inferior product came from either Seagate, Western Digital / Hitachi, or Toshiba. Having had extensive experience with all three drive vendors, I wouldn't classify any of them as offering inferior product.

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 2
    Last Post: 09-09-2008, 08:15 PM
  2. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 04-24-2007, 02:10 PM
  3. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 03-24-2007, 09:29 PM
  4. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 03-17-2007, 09:19 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •