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    It would have been wise if you invested it three years back.
    If you invest now, I feel its still wise
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    many people start investing in gold but when investors start to panic gold can become overpriced This in turn, means that your investment could lose value once the price corrects itself

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    hey pal, go on and invest in gold. the more ou think, more the price it will rise

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    Gold is a good investment, but the bottom line here is that you will not see the levels of incremental growth that there were over the last few years. It will no doubt reap 5-10% but that will require some shrewd sell pointing.

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    Investing in gold is always wise

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    To all those people that say gold will always rise, it's worth noting that since it peaked at around $1,900 / oz in early September, it's lost about 16% of it's value (now at around $1,590 / oz)

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    To the guy who posted above me, I forgot to tag your message as a quote... Where did you get that information from? As locally here gold is worth more then that here - Chicago, then as you listed that what it's worth now at $1590/oz. I went with a buddy of mine just last week and he had about a oz and a quarter of gold, and a crap load of copper from the drains he replaced in his home, and he wended up getting a total of $2200 for the gold even. Was around $1780-1800/oz.

    I just picked up some gold actually from a estate sale here locally the lady was selling her whole home to buy a new house and start over, and she had some jewerely, all real gold and I wended up getting it all for a good price, I'm not 100% sure on the weights of everything but I paid $100 for 5 10k gold chains, $54 for four gold bracelets - 10k, and then I picked up 2 gold chains that were 18k, and one that was 14k, and 10 rings that 6 were 10k and 3 were 14k and one was 18k for $300.

    Was a good day for me there, I personally estimated it out to be close to a half of a oz at least because few of the chains are very thick and heavy, and the rings are big and heavy, I'm going to crush them down myself and melt them into blocks so I get the most of 'em as I know if we provide it with diamonds and such, you get less money which is strange to me! But, hey I can't complain.

    My buddy I talked about earlier in my response own's his own gold shop, he runs a company called Mr GoldMaster and buys all people's used or no more wanted jewelry. Im going to go start a business with 'em soon.

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    I have an account with FXCM, I think what I'm seeing is what's called the spot price, not sure how that relates to retail prices of jewellery

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandomLittleHost View Post
    I have an account with FXCM, I think what I'm seeing is what's called the spot price, not sure how that relates to retail prices of jewellery
    It relates to the value of the raw gold content. Sometimes jewelry is worth more than the raw "melt value" of the gold, though.

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    do a balanced portfolio. divide your money in between gold, treasury bonds, stocks.

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    Historically, Gold had been a bad investment. It feel from heights in 1980.

    I believe in efficient markets. If too many people folk to a certain investment, it is time to get out. And therefore, lay man investors like us are disadvantaged. We are just betting at 50-50% success rate.

    PHD analysts have the advantage - they have sophisticated formulas and deep insights to know more than median investors. It is a zero sum game. We are losing to professional investors.

    So if we believe in efficient markets with the flaw that human beings are also emotional, we can make use of Buffet's rule - buy when everyone is scared.

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    gold is in demand because the current fiat currency, $, is basically empty behind ( being printed like a banana republic ) and the wall street scam caused financial assets and money to be poisoned worldwide with no foreseeable recovery. ( poisoned assets are going on creating poisoned assets )

    so, in this environment, gold, is a reliable standard/investment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unity100 View Post
    gold is in demand because the current fiat currency, $, is basically empty behind ( being printed like a banana republic ) and the wall street scam caused financial assets and money to be poisoned worldwide with no foreseeable recovery. ( poisoned assets are going on creating poisoned assets )

    so, in this environment, gold, is a reliable standard/investment.
    What you said, translated into economics, it means is gold a good hedge against inflation?

    Printing money = higher inflation = less value of the currency

    Historically, gold wasn't a good hedge against inflation, as this chart will show: http://inflationdata.com/inflation/i...tion_chart.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellind2 View Post
    What you said, translated into economics, it means is gold a good hedge against inflation?

    Printing money = higher inflation = less value of the currency

    Historically, gold wasn't a good hedge against inflation, as this chart will show: http://inflationdata.com/inflation/i...tion_chart.htm
    well, 'economics', as we call it, is only valid with its mechanics and behavior set during times of proper stability. stability required for it to be valid is very little, indeed. but, if there are situations that shake the foundations of economics or society, economics becomes non-useful to predict anything.

    you could predict stuff even during world war ii.

    but, when the very core of economics is being shaken, like the worldwide financial asset poisoning caused by wall street fraud, and the fiat currency used by world ($) becomes empty behind, then the very tools of economics becomes dangers in themselves.

    think - there are endless number of investment funds that contain poisoned assets. there are endless number of solid investments like built factories, traded commodities, which were done with poisoned assets. there have been endless number of products produced and sold, which origin from some spending done by poisoned assets or with cash taken by loan against poisoned assets.

    the reason the world is in crisis is, because noone knows how badly the world financial wealth was poisoned. noone trusts noone, so everyone lends to everyone else as little as possible.

    there is endless entanglement in between financial wealth and its tools in between themselves right now. even gold or gold-backed funds are not immune from this. someone may have bought gold or gold backed funds, but, where did that wealth to buy them come from ? who knows how much of that wealth originated from poisoned assets ?

    that said, this leaves gold, as a solid commodity, the most reliable valuable and financially tradeable item. gold is gold. even if the entire world order crumbles into medieval ages, gold will keep value.

    of course, someone investing in gold, will lose a lot of potential profit that could be made from this or that tool, by following the immense fluctuations (luckily) in chaotic economic times. however, that requires either huge amount of luck, or insider info.

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    Warren Buffett has weighed in on gold.

    I tend to agree with him about gold from a fundamental perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike - Limestone View Post
    Warren Buffett has weighed in on gold.

    I tend to agree with him about gold from a fundamental perspective.

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    that's quite an insightful article. the parts about facebook and linkedin too. and how the author responds to buffet's preference of stocks and the prediction of how things will stay 'as they were', is also very precise.

    today is not like 1960s. its a totally different world now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unity100 View Post
    that's quite an insightful article. the parts about facebook and linkedin too. and how the author responds to buffet's preference of stocks and the prediction of how things will stay 'as they were', is also very precise.

    today is not like 1960s. its a totally different world now.
    For what it's worth, I sold nearly all of my gold holdings near the high of $1900 an ounce. Gold is at $1723 an ounce right now (down about 10% from when I sold). It's hard to say what will come!

    I can't criticize anyone who buys gold. I just personally feel that the value might be propped up a bit too much, and I would potentially expect some losses in value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike - Limestone View Post
    For what it's worth, I sold nearly all of my gold holdings near the high of $1900 an ounce. Gold is at $1723 an ounce right now (down about 10% from when I sold). It's hard to say what will come!
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    well, definitely have to materialize the earnings by selling at a point in time.

    tho most who buy gold, buy it for security.

    and in some retrospect, its a curious imbalance - when gold goes down, economy generally goes up and its easier to find jobs or make money. when gold goes up, economy generally goes down. so, it seems a wise investment - if you are working.

    still i would prefer balanced portfolios. distributing the risk in between stocks, bonds, gold and interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unity100 View Post
    still i would prefer balanced portfolios. distributing the risk in between stocks, bonds, gold and interest.
    Right. Portfolio theory came around in the 1960s, if I recall correctly. That advocated the asset splits, such as 60/40 stocks vs. bonds.

    The only downside to "balanced" portfolios is that they tend to limit gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike - Limestone View Post
    Right. Portfolio theory came around in the 1960s, if I recall correctly. That advocated the asset splits, such as 60/40 stocks vs. bonds.

    The only downside to "balanced" portfolios is that they tend to limit gains.

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    yes they tend to limit gains. but, can they be just left alone and still make noticeable gains, or, even at least protect their value against inflation ?

    that's what im wondering these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unity100 View Post
    yes they tend to limit gains. but, can they be just left alone and still make noticeable gains, or, even at least protect their value against inflation ?

    that's what im wondering these days.
    As someone who invests a fair bit, I would argue that diversification usually runs counter to high wealth growth. Diversification seems great for wealth preservation, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike - Limestone View Post
    For what it's worth, I sold nearly all of my gold holdings near the high of $1900 an ounce. Gold is at $1723 an ounce right now (down about 10% from when I sold). It's hard to say what will come!

    I can't criticize anyone who buys gold. I just personally feel that the value might be propped up a bit too much, and I would potentially expect some losses in value.

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    just by talking to average man in the street, most are not savvy investors, they just follow the trend.

    We amateur investors can still make leftover money left from professionals. The one to lose are the uneducated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike - Limestone View Post
    As someone who invests a fair bit, I would argue that diversification usually runs counter to high wealth growth. Diversification seems great for wealth preservation, however.

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    yes, the foremost point of diversification is preservation. but, it should be possible to make a modicum of profit.

    Quote Originally Posted by hellind2 View Post
    just by talking to average man in the street, most are not savvy investors, they just follow the trend.

    We amateur investors can still make leftover money left from professionals. The one to lose are the uneducated.
    volatile times, or volatile economies (local or global) are places where small investors' money is shaken off by the big.

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    history tid bit: Gypsies have invested in gold for a very long time. Not trusting banks they fashioned all their jewelry out of solid gold and literally wore the wealth with them at all times. Silver was used as jewelry for their horses.

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    A wit...to share with electronics2011, if Gold makes you rich, in coming years, Bappi Lahiri is gonna be the richest person in India (Indians love him for that)

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    i also think gold is a universal and best currency/investment. you rather should invest in values like gold or good properties rather than cash due to inflation. but i would also add that the prices of gold went up due to high demand of gold...
    historically seen gold was always a reliable asset in time of financial crisis (big crash) or war..

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    Here in Italy, not so many years ago during the war, the ownership of gold was illegal.
    It wouldn't surprise me if this is going to happen again.

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    Here in Italy, not so many years ago during the war, the ownership of gold was illegal.
    It wouldn't surprise me if this is going to happen again.
    illegal?! crazy! hope those things will never happen today! unbelieveable!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cedivad View Post
    Here in Italy, not so many years ago during the war, the ownership of gold was illegal.
    It wouldn't surprise me if this is going to happen again.
    How about diamonds?
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    A wit...to share with electronics2011, if Gold makes you rich, in coming years, Bappi Lahiri is gonna be the richest person in India (Indians love him for that)

    why not

    inflation will definitely raise the value of the yellow metal
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    Quote Originally Posted by AsianHost View Post
    How about diamonds?
    No, only gold.

    So my point is ok, buy as much gold as you wish to - but keep it a real secret.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cedivad View Post
    No, only gold.

    So my point is ok, buy as much gold as you wish to - but keep it a real secret.
    Indeed. If it's all stolen, then that's a bad investment "return".

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    Hey pal, you know one small info. last year police raided house of a Dean of a medical college in India. You know what they took gold in kilograms. about hundreds of kilos. So, i think these rats will have more gold than Bappi Lahiri

    Quote Originally Posted by dareORdie View Post
    A wit...to share with electronics2011, if Gold makes you rich, in coming years, Bappi Lahiri is gonna be the richest person in India (Indians love him for that)

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    Gold is never a bad investment in my opinion.

    Another great investment at the moment is oil with the situation in Iran and syria.

    This may come as a shock but in the Netherlands we pay $ 9,10 a gallon to fill up your car at the moment. So oil is the big thing :p

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    The Chairman of the World Gold Council expects gold to "skyrocket" in the months ahead. In 2012, Gold is the asset of choice!

    Gold makes the most sense when government, corporate and personal debt levels are higher than during the Great Depression.

    From Europe to China, the U.S to Russia, those in "the know" are making the move, expecting gold to challenge the +2400% gains experienced during the 1970's under less severe economic conditions.

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    I have a friend who makes a living off of gold, he makes upwards of $30,000 per month, so my opinion: it's definitely worth investing into.

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    I have a friend who makes a living off of gold, he makes upwards of $30,000 per month, so my opinion: it's definitely worth investing into.
    do they buy and re-sell it?

    The good article about gold investment.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_as_an_investment
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    I have a friend who makes a living off of gold, he makes upwards of $30,000 per month, so my opinion: it's definitely worth investing into.
    I have it from absolutely incredible sources that Silver will be around $565 per ounce by August of this year. To the moon.

    The ShadowStats inflation adjusted high for silver is over $300. The last number I saw from John Willliams re silver was about $450 ounce to reach the inflation adjusted equivalent of 1980.

    In year 1980, USA debts were $1 Trillion and Silver was $50 an ounce. This is most important hidden information. Today USA debts has reached $100 Trillion so Silver should be $3,500 an ounce today.

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    Gold/silver is no more an "investment" than real estate or baseball cards.
    Most of the people who push it as such are just financial scammers.

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