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[Jonathan - Limestone]

How do you guys feel about this billboard going up by PETA

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/09/29...n-is-over-top/

[dlewis23]

I just don't see how people can give PETA money with a straight face on.

[BeZazz]

They are a bunch of kooks.

[Mambug]

That billboard makes me feel that I need to hunt sharks more often in order to protect other humans.

I am one of those who does spearfishing, and I've been in waters with sharks swimming around me.

[KMyers]

PITA may have gone too far with this. I cannot even see how they have any supporters. They cannot understand something simple.

ANIMALS EAT OTHER ANIMALS!!!

The Science is simple

There are Herbivores - Whos bodies have been designed to eat plants. This is a biological adaptation not a choice.

There are Carnivores - Whos bodies have been designed to eat meat, again this is biological not a choice

Finally there are Omnivores whos bodies have been designed to eat a combination of both, This is again a biological adaptation not a choice.

[prashanth[HC]]

I can only opine that PETA are fools really. Why are they affecting other people's sentiments? If they have some personal preference let them follow assiduously. Why recommend ideas to others?

[fwaggle]

Originally Posted by dlewis23

I just don't see how people can give PETA money with a straight face on.

I believe much of their money comes from well-meaning pet owners who don't realize that PETA would love to do away with pet ownership completely. Your money's better spent donating to the humane society, the WSPCA, or buying a couple bags of dog/cat food, some blankets and some bleach and dropping them off at your local shelter (ask first, because mine doesn't need dog food, they have a corporate sponsor for that and only need cat food).

[MattS]

Originally Posted by KDisk

PITA may have gone too far with this. I cannot even see how they have any supporters. They cannot understand something simple.

ANIMALS EAT OTHER ANIMALS!!!

The Science is simple

There are Herbivores - Whos bodies have been designed to eat plants. This is a biological adaptation not a choice.

There are Carnivores - Whos bodies have been designed to eat meat, again this is biological not a choice

Finally there are Omnivores whos bodies have been designed to eat a combination of both, This is again a biological adaptation not a choice.

Yup PITA sounds more like it much better than PETA

[unity100]

Originally Posted by KDisk

PITA may have gone too far with this. I cannot even see how they have any supporters. They cannot understand something simple.

ANIMALS EAT OTHER ANIMALS!!!

The Science is simple

There are Herbivores - Whos bodies have been designed to eat plants. This is a biological adaptation not a choice.

There are Carnivores - Whos bodies have been designed to eat meat, again this is biological not a choice

Finally there are Omnivores whos bodies have been designed to eat a combination of both, This is again a biological adaptation not a choice.

and then there are cannibals - as in members of same species eating others. back a few million years ago, it was very common. now, its very rare. it was even practiced amongst people. apparently, nature was designed so that doing that was possible. and actually some species still have it as a means to ensure survival right after reproduction by feeding the female.

i wonder why that design of nature is missing nowadays. wouldnt it be more in line with natural laws that the practice was still around ? like in humans too - which was something they were doing 1000-2000 years ago in many parts of the world ? and still being done in some places as a tradition ?

maybe the reason it is not as such anymore because there is evolution eh ? like how the biosphere is much more less wild than it was back a few hundred million years ago when dinosaur ilk roamed the world ?

.........

nature is not something stagnant. it evolves. laws of today, are the 'past' of tomorrow. this includes concepts of herbivore, omnivore, carnivore.

[Shannara]

Originally Posted by BeZazz

They are a bunch of kooks.

Terrorists, are the proper name. But sanctioned by the USA. They are a registered business, eh?

[Sinoco]

Honestly, if someone pitched this campaign to me, I would laugh them out of house and home. Really, going vegan isn't going to do anything about shark attacks (though their really just taking advantage of an incident). It's quite pathetic and I'm actually surprised the family isn't more upset about the campaign. I'd feel like I was being taken advantage of.

[Gerrit]

Not the first time PETA makes fools of themselves, although it is obviously not sure if the campaign accidently occurs after the shark attack or if the ad was chosen as a response to that attack. I think it's a bit over the top in the latter case ; if it was coincidence that the ad came so shortly after the incident it's a different case because sometimes you just need to shock to get people's attention. And what that shark is doing on the billboard is a lot less cruel than what some people do with animals. So unlucky timing, yes. But to say the billboard is wrong? I wouldn't say that.

PETA however often take things into the ridiculous, harming the vegetarian cause more than doing it any good. Remember when Obama squatted a fly live on TV, and PETA made a lot of fuzz about that? This just takes the animal rights struggle a bit into the ridiculousness.

For your info: I am a near-vegan strict vegetarian (= I abstain entirely from meat and fish, abstain from cheese entirely too and try to avoid milk and butter as much as I can). Turned vegetarian when I was 6 and I'm nearly 30 now, so you can calculaye the years (my family are not vegetarians, it was my own choice). So I will be the last person ever criticising animal rights activists, on the contrary I am very strict and passionate about my vegetarianism. However, one lesson is important: you will make sense to people (when trying to explain the benefits of vegetarianism) much more if you explain them without trying to preach or convert. People listen a lot sooner when you respect their choices, even when they choose not to go vegetarian in the end. If you try to make your point aggressively, people won't even listen. I don't disrespect those who eat meat, as long as they respect my choice not to eat it. I am happy to explain the benefits of vegetarianism if asked, but I won't preach about it.

My issue with PETA is that they just take things too far and thereby harm the vegetarian cause. Other animal rights campaigners do it in a much better way than PETA because they do it without trying to be preaching.

I respect everyone's choice, veg or not. The only thing I do need to answer to is the one line in this topic stating that nature decides for us. Yes, humans are omnivores, but we have the brain to make a choice. A choice to eat meat, or abstain from it. Our body can handle both meat and other food, but it doesn't necessarily need meat. I am only one of countless vegetarians proving that point. A well balanced and diverse vegetarian diet works as well as eating meat (if excluding my psychological issues, I've needed a doctor on average less than once a year). You need to keep balance, which means vegetables but also tofu, potatoes, pasta, ... but a balanced vegetarian diet is perfectly healthy even when your body can also process meat. It however doesn't have to.
However, those who choose to eat meat, I won't be criticising your choice.

Enjoy your meals everyone, for me it will likely be a rice plate with vegetables

[Gerrit]

Originally Posted by prashanth[HC]

I can only opine that PETA are fools really. Why are they affecting other people's sentiments? If they have some personal preference let them follow assiduously. Why recommend ideas to others?

Hmmm, then you can abolish EVERY charity, abolish politics, and turn people into a totalitarian society of equals who either have no opinions or are afraid to out them.

Nothing wrong with some debate and giving people some theme for thought. As long as you're not forcing anyone to adopt your own ideas, there's nothing wrong to just share your ideas. It's up to each his own in the end if he'll agree or disagree with the idea you're presenting.

Originally Posted by Shannara

Terrorists, are the proper name. But sanctioned by the USA. They are a registered business, eh?

While surely they have bad taste (I mean when it comes to commercials), they have never physically attacked someone. There was another animal rights organisation though that has, and has burned some fastfood restaurants. No mentally sane vegetarian will ever approve such acts, may this be clear (even though McDonald's is something I do boycot myself since they lied to us vegetarians by baking veggie burgers in the same grease as regular burgers - thus it's not a veggie meal anymore. But again this is just my personal choice not to consume there anymore and I'll wish everyone a happy meal who chooses to do visit McDonald's)

[unity100]

come to think of it, a shark or alligator attack is a 'terrible, terrible thing', and we punish even elephants when they kill humans. but people keep slaughtering and eating other animals without a second thought. hypocrisy much ?

the people who were victims of shark attack said that they found those ads very distasteful. and yet, im sure they keep eating dead animals every day in burger joints. why a shark feeding itself by killing another animal is distasteful, but the latter isnt ?

i found the ad quite queer at first, but now i think there may be some point to that peta campaign.

[MannDude]

They do stuff like this to simply remind us, "Hey everyone, we still exist. Go animals!"

I don't think PETA seriously thinks Americans are just going to change their diets and become Vegans from that silly billboard, they simply want attention and to remind us that they still exist.

PETA should be changed to: "People Eating Tasty Animals", because well... animals are tasty.

EDIT: Should be noted that i'm against factory farming and killing animals just for their fur. But i've been turkey and rabbit hunting (used for food), my parents raise cattle (organic), and when I visit home I get to take advantage of living in the 'country' by getting farm fresh eggs and other high quality non-mass produced meats and vegetables from neighbors.