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09-02-2011, 08:16 AM #1Web Hosting Guru
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What to do with a monster VPS like this?
Not sure how many people here have visited LEB lately but this seems to be the hot post of the week:
http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/chicag...ps-in-chicago/
My question is: what do people plan to do with this? I mean, Minecraft would probably ask for this much memory, but then again, how many people are actually interested in playing Minecraft? 0.001% of the Internet? Besides Minecraft, I do not think even installing MySQL + Apache + PHP without ANY optimization would use more than 1.5GB of memory. Obviously unless you live in Chicago, the box is perhaps too slow for you to run a graphical desktop there as well (and since Windows is not available anyways, who needs graphical desktop?)
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09-02-2011, 08:33 AM #2Web Hosting Guru
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And I think although the RAM power is there, I highly doubt the CPU power of the VPS would be as good as my laptop that I am using right now since you are sharing the CPU power with a dozen other people...
I guess my point is, are there really many uses for a VPS like this or ChicagoVPS is just betting on the fact that nobody is ever going to use the full amount of resources?█96MB.com
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09-02-2011, 08:47 AM #3Web Hosting Master
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I suppose the possibilities are endless.
2GB for $7 though... if they have figured out how to do that without overselling (based on the fact the XEN packages are the same price I suspect they don't oversell much) and actually make a sustainable profit then good luck to them.
I am 50/50 without knowing the company background or much about them at all unless they have limited it to say first 20 sign ups then this could make or break them.
I guess uses would be hosting a large amount of sites, cPanel Server, DA Server, Shoutcast Server, slow VMWare Server (free edition) (and would run like crap), Counter strike servers.
My fear for them would be that the minecraft fans catch wind of this and they sell 200 overnight and the nodes commit suicide.█ -> INCEPTION HOSTING LIMITED Since 2010!
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09-02-2011, 08:49 AM #4Web Hosting Master
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Fair point about the CPU.
I might just buy one of these out of curiosity to see what the situation is.█ -> INCEPTION HOSTING LIMITED Since 2010!
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09-02-2011, 09:01 AM #5Web Hosting Master
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Is it Xen? Can you install your own kernel? Then split it into several smaller OpenVZ VPSes No idea what to do with the smaller VPSes though. Maybe just experiment and learn.
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09-02-2011, 09:08 AM #6Web Hosting Master
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This offer is OpenVZ I should have been more clear, I was refering to thier standard packages on their site which interestingly for $7 from their site you only get 256mb ram.
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09-02-2011, 09:26 AM #7Web Hosting Master
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Here is what I might use it for.
- Not use it.
- Use it as a MySQL instant replication server for my DBs.
- Use it to host a low resource web site.
- Use it to host a medium resource website.
- Use it to cut down on bandwidth usage of my main server. (I.E - host my images there).
- Not use it.
- Create a VPN, IRC bouncer, or something of the sort.
- Use it to host my friends' websites.
- Use it to host a charitable website.
- Not use it.
- Use it as a mail server.
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09-02-2011, 09:54 AM #8WHT Addict
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EndServer, that was awesome! I needed a good laugh, that one hit the spot! I like it when we can interject a little humor into WHT, makes it more fun.
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09-02-2011, 10:24 AM #9Web Hosting Master
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I made my comments on this offer on LEB. Its not possible, i don't care what they say. Its probably the most ridiculous offer i have seen to date.
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09-02-2011, 10:31 AM #10Web Hosting Master
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Let's say it's a 48 GB node, that is 25% oversold. 60GB of RAM sold.
60GB total RAM/2GB packages = 30 total packages.
30 * 6 (assuming it's $6 after fees) = $180/month
Since you can get a 100 Mbps un-metered port for $100 a month, it is possible. It's probably never going to be profitable, but it really gets them out there. It's easily possible, just not profitable.SiFuQi.net - Affordable Dedicated Servers in Los Angeles, California
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09-02-2011, 10:39 AM #11Hello World
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09-02-2011, 10:40 AM #12WHT Addict
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They are new probably just trying to get some clients to grow faster.. this is a promotional price..
I would use for some testing purpose.
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09-02-2011, 12:23 PM #13Web Hosting Master
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09-02-2011, 12:30 PM #14Web Hosting Master
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09-02-2011, 12:31 PM #15Web Hosting Master
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09-02-2011, 12:56 PM #16Web Hosting Evangelist
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I'm wondering how much he oversells the servers and the exact vps node specifications....
What would happen if many clients buy a vps like that and actually use that amount of ram.... For just $140 per month you've got 40GB of ram with him:p
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09-02-2011, 04:40 PM #17Poooooonnyyy :*
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I think the majority of the people buying these will be minecraft users, so you can expect them to pass a policy banning minecraft like ipapco did.
Given the through-put IO tests that were done they're running a software RAID1. I'm figuring they're using 24G setups and will just stack it really high to break even. They stated they brought up a SINGLE fresh node for this all so it's obvious they're packing it pretty good. If we start seeing vz20+ then they got more, but as of right now it's just vz19 according to Chris.
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09-02-2011, 05:36 PM #18Web Hosting Master
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If anyone was wondering:
Fresh install CentOS 5 64 bit
Code:free -m total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 2048 24 2023 0 0 0 -/+ buffers/cache: 24 2023 Swap: 0 0 0
Code:df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/simfs 50G 767M 50G 2% / none 1.0G 4.0K 1.0G 1% /dev
Code:free -m total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 2048 218 1829 0 0 0 -/+ buffers/cache: 218 1829 Swap: 0 0 0
Code:df -i Filesystem Inodes IUsed IFree IUse% Mounted on /dev/simfs 26214400 33276 26181124 1% / none 262144 96 262048 1% /dev
Code:procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- --system-- -----cpu------ r b swpd free buff cache si so bi bo in cs us sy id wa st 1 0 0 1872996 0 0 0 0 0 184 0 4167 6 2 92 0 0
Code:Version: 2.5 uid resource held maxheld barrier limit failcnt 925: kmemsize 3658503 4779619 2147483646 2147483646 0 lockedpages 0 0 999999 999999 0 privvmpages 55998 154957 524288 524288 0 shmpages 641 687 524288 524288 0 dummy 0 0 0 0 0 numproc 30 34 999999 999999 0 physpages 6839 104655 0 2147483647 0 vmguarpages 0 0 524288 2147483647 0 oomguarpages 6839 104655 524288 2147483647 0 numtcpsock 6 26 7999992 7999992 0 numflock 5 9 999999 999999 0 numpty 1 1 500000 500000 0 numsiginfo 0 5 999999 999999 0 tcpsndbuf 667480 719992 214748160 396774400 0 tcprcvbuf 98304 1359712 214748160 396774400 0 othersockbuf 37248 46560 214748160 396774400 0 dgramrcvbuf 0 8472 214748160 396774400 0 numothersock 53 72 7999992 7999992 0 dcachesize 0 0 2147483646 2147483646 0 numfile 786 895 23999976 23999976 0 dummy 0 0 0 0 0 dummy 0 0 0 0 0 dummy 0 0 0 0 0 numiptent 83 83 999999 999999
Code:dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k count=16k conv=fdatasync 16384+0 records in 16384+0 records out 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 10.4106 seconds, 103 MB/s dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k count=16k conv=fdatasync 16384+0 records in 16384+0 records out 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 12.7212 seconds, 84.4 MB/s dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k count=16k conv=fdatasync 16384+0 records in 16384+0 records out 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 18.3831 seconds, 58.4 MB/s
Code:--- / (simfs /dev/simfs) ioping statistics --- 1000 requests completed in 1005779.6 ms, 178 iops, 0.7 mb/s min/avg/max/mdev = 0.1/5.6/418.2/26.2 ms
Code:cat /proc/meminfo MemTotal: 2097152 kB MemFree: 1872440 kB Buffers: 0 kB Cached: 0 kB SwapCached: 0 kB Active: 0 kB Inactive: 0 kB HighTotal: 0 kB HighFree: 0 kB LowTotal: 2097152 kB LowFree: 1872440 kB SwapTotal: 0 kB SwapFree: 0 kB Dirty: 2080 kB Writeback: 0 kB AnonPages: 0 kB Mapped: 0 kB Slab: 0 kB PageTables: 0 kB NFS_Unstable: 0 kB Bounce: 0 kB CommitLimit: 0 kB Committed_AS: 0 kB VmallocTotal: 0 kB VmallocUsed: 0 kB VmallocChunk: 0 kB HugePages_Total: 0 HugePages_Free: 0 HugePages_Rsvd: 0 Hugepagesize: 2048 kB
Code:wget http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test --2011-09-02 15:41:59-- http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test Resolving cachefly.cachefly.net... 205.234.175.175 Connecting to cachefly.cachefly.net|205.234.175.175|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream] Saving to: `100mb.test' 100%[====================================================================>] 104,857,600 10.3M/s in 9.8s 2011-09-02 15:42:09 (10.2 MB/s) - `100mb.test' saved [104857600/104857600]
Code:Benchmark Run: Fri Sep 02 2011 16:24:37 - 20:53:24 4 CPUs in system; running 4 parallel copies of tests Dhrystone 2 using register variables 42992965.0 lps (10.0 s, 7 samples) Double-Precision Whetstone 10378.3 MWIPS (9.6 s, 7 samples) Execl Throughput 6635.5 lps (30.0 s, 2 samples) File Copy 1024 bufsize 2000 maxblocks 324566.1 KBps (30.0 s, 2 samples) File Copy 256 bufsize 500 maxblocks 93404.7 KBps (30.0 s, 2 samples) File Copy 4096 bufsize 8000 maxblocks 660138.5 KBps (30.1 s, 2 samples) Pipe Throughput 3161505.1 lps (10.0 s, 7 samples) Pipe-based Context Switching 907402.3 lps (10.0 s, 7 samples) Process Creation 28403.3 lps (30.0 s, 2 samples) Shell Scripts (1 concurrent) 9663.3 lpm (60.0 s, 2 samples) Shell Scripts (8 concurrent) 1758.9 lpm (60.1 s, 2 samples) System Call Overhead 2652983.7 lps (10.0 s, 7 samples) System Benchmarks Index Values BASELINE RESULT INDEX Dhrystone 2 using register variables 116700.0 42992965.0 3684.1 Double-Precision Whetstone 55.0 10378.3 1887.0 Execl Throughput 43.0 6635.5 1543.1 File Copy 1024 bufsize 2000 maxblocks 3960.0 324566.1 819.6 File Copy 256 bufsize 500 maxblocks 1655.0 93404.7 564.4 File Copy 4096 bufsize 8000 maxblocks 5800.0 660138.5 1138.2 Pipe Throughput 12440.0 3161505.1 2541.4 Pipe-based Context Switching 4000.0 907402.3 2268.5 Process Creation 126.0 28403.3 2254.2 Shell Scripts (1 concurrent) 42.4 9663.3 2279.1 Shell Scripts (8 concurrent) 6.0 1758.9 2931.5 System Call Overhead 15000.0 2652983.7 1768.7 ======== System Benchmarks Index Score 1757.3
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09-02-2011, 06:12 PM #19Web Host Reviewer
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Some of those LEB offers are more ridiculous than the concept of unlimited.
If that's what you get for $7, I'll gladly pay $15 for something sane. Or $30. Or $60.
I need a good server that I know works, not paid space on an experiment.
I often wonder how much people save after blowing money on hosts that disappear, or leave with paid time.
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09-02-2011, 11:21 PM #20Web Hosting Master
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well not even 24 hours uptime so far:
Code:13:40:13 up 8:41, 1 user, load average: 0.06, 0.01, 0.00
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09-03-2011, 09:19 AM #22Web Hosting Guru
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I signed up for one yesterday out of curiosity, and it is on node 19, and someone who singed up like an hour after me was on 19 too.
I think honestly I would not be surprised if companies like IPAP.co are willing to take those kind of risk, I mean, honestly, when it is coming to die today or die 3 months later (and screw more people along the way), I think the choices are pretty clear, but really, Chicago VPS has such a solid reputation in the LEB community.
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09-03-2011, 10:40 AM #23Web Hosting Guru
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My uptime just passed one day
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22:39:15 up 1 day, 7 min, 2 users, load average: 4.90, 3.77, 2.99█96MB.com
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09-04-2011, 09:16 PM #24Web Hosting Guru
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All right, here is the 96MB review for them, I was surprised by how good the performance are like and honestly I really can not figure out how they could do it:
http://www.96mb.com/96mb-low-end-vps...ps-enterprise/
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09-04-2011, 11:30 PM #25Aspiring Evangelist
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The only thing I would run to use 2 GB of RAM is 2 minecraft servers. Otherwise, 128mb is enough for me.
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