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  1. #1
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    Low End Box - what services do you run?

    Hi Guys,

    I have 4 low end boxes (128MB RAM), and I basically use them for testing, learning the various distros, software (nsd, postfix, dovecot, etc). Nothing serious.

    In a couple of months time, I hope to use them for "production" - e.g. real sites that don't get clobbered every 2-3 weeks :-)

    So, my questions to you guys who are running similar specs VPSs (leb, 96mb, etc) - what other services do you run on your VPS beside the LAMP or the LNMP stack?

    Do you run:

    - dns (eg nsd3)
    - mail services (eg. postfix, dovecot)
    - ftpd
    - or any other services on your VPS?

    Or just the LAMP/LNMP stack?

    Cheers!

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    ftp - big nono. use sftp/scp/ssh
    mail - i use rackspace for mail
    dns - use a third party provider

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    Hi QuantumPhysics,

    So I gather you only run the LAMP/LNMP stack on your vps?

    which dns provider do you use? Your Domain Name Registrar?


    Thanks!

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    I prefer my mail services on Google actually. For $50/year you can't beat the services.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vpswing View Post
    Hi QuantumPhysics,

    So I gather you only run the LAMP/LNMP stack on your vps?

    which dns provider do you use? Your Domain Name Registrar?


    Thanks!
    Zerigo/8x8 , Amazon Route 53, or DME
    I mostly deal with pgsql as opposed to mysql, but yeah, that's about it.

    I really do not recommend mail services running locally in any form, because other people do it better and more competently. You try running filtering or something in 128MB you're going to kill your box/resources. If you don't run either, have fun talking to nigeria and drowning in spam.

    Even on production stuff (x-xxGB range memory, not low end) I wouldn't run mail locally.

    Free: http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/business/index.html http://domains.live.com/

    I don't want to deal with the headache or the BS of dealing with mail and all of the fun things that come with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Techy View Post
    I prefer my mail services on Google actually. For $50/year you can't beat the services.
    Do you have a link to that service? I thought google provides free email (25 accounts or so if I remembered correctly).

    I assume the paid email service is free from ads?


    cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vpswing View Post
    Do you have a link to that service? I thought google provides free email (25 accounts or so if I remembered correctly).

    I assume the paid email service is free from ads?


    cheers!

    paid - http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/business/index.html
    free - http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/group/index.html (10 accounts)

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    Quote Originally Posted by quantumphysics View Post
    You try running filtering or something in 128MB you're going to kill your box/resources. If you don't run either, have fun talking to nigeria and drowning in spam.
    lol ... that's funny! But very true!

    Thanks for the link, appreciate it!

    Cheers!

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    btw - it used to be 50 accounts, but changed to 10.

    old domains are grandfathered in at 50.
    in either case, if this is primarily for you, you can just make one mailbox or two mailbox and just alias sales@ whatever@ hello@ (infinite) all to one

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    Quote Originally Posted by quantumphysics View Post
    btw - it used to be 50 accounts, but changed to 10.

    old domains are grandfathered in at 50.
    in either case, if this is primarily for you, you can just make one mailbox or two mailbox and just alias sales@ whatever@ hello@ (infinite) all to one
    My domain registered from 2008 got 2000 free accounts
    Last edited by dasklney; 08-24-2011 at 01:16 PM.

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    Overall got 2 128mb boxes (1 xen, 1 openvz). One I use for some free VOIP (That would be xen) for Mumble, TS, Ventrilo emulated by wine. Second (openvz) is VPN (PPTP), Nginx with Piwik, file streaming and rsync backups.
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    Depends on the project, but I've used them in the past for DNS, mail, and low traffic web servers. They're also perfect for failover VMs (in case a main site goes down, at least there's a VM ready to cutover with the static content), and for low-resource backup/archive systems.
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    3rd DNS and mx backup.
    - do it your self.

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    I have used LEB 128MB Ram VPSes - For DNS (cPanel DNS ONLY) and single websites used with Kloxo
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    what's running on just one of my 128mb VPSs?

    nginx, php, mysql, pptpd, exim (outgoing only) and nsd (part of my 3 server cluster, not a single box has more than 128mb and one has 96mb). It runs a site which brings in more money per month than it costs per year.

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    On my current LEB I have Apache2 and Transmission for torrents installed - Along with SSH ofcourse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quantumphysics View Post
    btw - it used to be 50 accounts, but changed to 10.

    old domains are grandfathered in at 50.
    Actually the new limit of 10 is effective only to new organizations (users).

    BTW it used to be unlimited. All domains I have using Google Apps display this:

    You can create up to 100 user accounts for this organization.
    Request more users
    You will only find out how good a provider is when the going gets tough

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    Since you are trying out distributions right now, you might want to look at FreeBSD. I think it does better with low memory than most Linux distributions. I generally try to run NTP as well. It doesn't use much memory and provides verifiable time services.

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    debian, nginx, mysql, php, postfix/dovecot/spamassassin, nsd3, vsftpd, and occasionally openvpn. Runs at about 90-100MB idle.

    Oh, and maybe 1 or 2 spam mails get through my filters each week. SPAM is NOT a problem on a 128MB VPS unless you're getting a large volume of mail. Here are my mail stats for this week thus far ...
    Code:
    Grand Totals
    ------------
    messages
    
        404   received
        493   delivered
          4   forwarded
          0   deferred
          0   bounced
        607   rejected (55%)
          0   reject warnings
          0   held
          0   discarded (0%)
    
       9066k  bytes received
       9970k  bytes delivered
         95   senders
         68   sending hosts/domains
         36   recipients
          8   recipient hosts/domains
    
    
    Per-Day Traffic Summary
        date          received  delivered   deferred    bounced     rejected
        --------------------------------------------------------------------
        Aug 21 2011        26         17          0          0        134 
        Aug 22 2011       160        296          0          0        161 
        Aug 23 2011       122        100          0          0        162 
        Aug 24 2011        92         76          0          0        141 
        Aug 25 2011         4          4          0          0          9
    This is just from postfix logs via pflogsumm. After postfix accepts the mail, then spamassassin checks it for it's own spam filters.
    Last edited by portalgod; 08-25-2011 at 09:40 AM.

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