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Old 08-23-2011, 11:08 PM
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WHT Wall of Shame


Hello,

It seems like every day there are hosts who are caught ripping designs or using nulled billing scripts. It seems they never learn as others re-offend once caught.

It would be nice if WHMCS had a "Wall of Shame" for hosts who have
  • Ripped a Website Design
  • Using Nulled Scripts (WHMCS)
  • Spamming others to get customers
  • Pasting False Reviews

They should be listed on this for a pre-determined amount of time (120 days)



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Old 08-23-2011, 11:11 PM
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Hello,

It seems like every day there are hosts who are caught ripping designs or using nulled billing scripts. It seems they never learn as others re-offend once caught.

It would be nice if WHMCS had a "Wall of Shame" for hosts who have
  • Ripped a Website Design
  • Using Nulled Scripts (WHMCS)
  • Spamming others to get customers
  • Pasting False Reviews

They should be listed on this for a pre-determined amount of time (120 days)
I think that's an excellent idea. Personally, I think maybe a little longer period of time might be better.

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Old 08-23-2011, 11:14 PM
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yea like a year!

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Old 08-23-2011, 11:25 PM
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yea like a year!
Yeah, thats more like it!

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Old 08-23-2011, 11:26 PM
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yea like a year!
And anyone who PM Spams should be made a Sticky

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Old 08-23-2011, 11:27 PM
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And anyone who PM Spams should be made a Sticky
Try not to give me any ideas haha.

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Old 08-23-2011, 11:56 PM
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It would be nice if WHMCS had a "Wall of Shame"
You should ask them.

If not for our privacy policy, naming and shaming PM spammers would be interesting. But we can't, and aren't looking to hurt those that break our rules...just stop them from doing it. There have been a few rather prolific ones lately, brought to light by one or two reports at most...only to find quite a lot were sent. Spam is up, reports to get it to stop are down.
Shame, that.

As for a separate forum for name and shame of rippers and warez licensing and so on, this is thankfully a smallish percentage of incidents overall, so no real need for a separate section for it, I feel. Don't let that stop you asking and discussing it, though. Change sometimes comes about from ideas like this. Have at it.


[PERSONAL OPINION]
Having one for that purpose might cause the ripper to go after WHT/iNet as the source of the accusations, since the forum section could be seen as endorsing or even encouraging that type of post. Could make for interesting legal issues.
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anyone who PM Spams should be made a Sticky
The member? eww..

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Old 08-24-2011, 12:13 AM
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You should ask them.
Hint taken

The Ripped Template one is still a hot topic... Its rare but happens

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Old 08-24-2011, 01:21 AM
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Ripped a Website Design
Some of the hosts accused of doing this merely have very similar-looking designs, so this one would have to be policed after setting up rules for what considers a rip. And once you have rules, people find ways to avoid them just narrowly enough.

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Using Nulled Scripts (WHMCS)
There are places in the world where this is not illegal. Furthermore, would the host be removed once they have purchased a legal version of WHMCS? Whose job will it be to maintain the list?

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Spamming others to get customers
If this includes signature spammers, I support it wholeheartedly!

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Pasting False Reviews
This can be next to impossible to prove. Some people are so happy about their host that they will make it sound like an ad. It's better to just remove such reviews, if not verification from the user is supplied. I believe this is the case already.

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Old 08-24-2011, 02:05 AM
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[PERSONAL OPINION]
Having one for that purpose might cause the ripper to go after WHT/iNet as the source of the accusations, since the forum section could be seen as endorsing or even encouraging that type of post. Could make for interesting legal issues.
[/PERSONAL OPINION]
Lemme just add a point behind this. There is a really really really huge hardware community known as anandtech. In there is a sales/trade/buy section, and from there they have pinned topics of users that scammed, who they scammed, a link to the thread that it happened and even full details on the person.

To date i've heard of no lawsuits and the sections are still up and strong.

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Old 08-24-2011, 03:46 AM
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I think it's a great idea!

Of course, people will just re-invent themselves and turn up under another name.....but they always get found out.

I reckon it would be a very popular section and bearing in mind how some people are "playing the system" here, it would visibly show that WHT take it seriously.

Let's be honest here....how many times have we seen "hosts" ignore their trainwreck threads while continuously posting offers and dragging more people in?

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Old 08-24-2011, 10:15 AM
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There are places in the world where this is not illegal. Furthermore, would the host be removed once they have purchased a legal version of WHMCS? Whose job will it be to maintain the list?
Regardless of the Legalities, this is purely a matter of Ethics... Would you trust your domain to a company who blatantly steals from others with no remorse?

I was thinking of putting together a blog/list of these hosts byt thought WHT may be a better medium as it is a high traffic site

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Old 08-24-2011, 02:04 PM
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I think they would ignore this thread anyway.

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Old 08-24-2011, 02:11 PM
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Regardless of the Legalities, this is purely a matter of Ethics... Would you trust your domain to a company who blatantly steals from others with no remorse?
It is indeed a matter of ethics. I wouldn't trust my domain to a company that wishes to name and shame others as if we're in the Middle Ages.

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Old 08-24-2011, 02:35 PM
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It is indeed a matter of ethics. I wouldn't trust my domain to a company that wishes to name and shame others as if we're in the Middle Ages.
I forgot to mention, it is not abnormal for "Nulled" scripts to have backdoors in them. So you can either pay for it the right way or pay for it by having your accounts terminated by the attacker

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