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    WHT Wall of Shame

    Hello,

    It seems like every day there are hosts who are caught ripping designs or using nulled billing scripts. It seems they never learn as others re-offend once caught.

    It would be nice if WHMCS had a "Wall of Shame" for hosts who have
    • Ripped a Website Design
    • Using Nulled Scripts (WHMCS)
    • Spamming others to get customers
    • Pasting False Reviews


    They should be listed on this for a pre-determined amount of time (120 days)
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDisk View Post
    Hello,

    It seems like every day there are hosts who are caught ripping designs or using nulled billing scripts. It seems they never learn as others re-offend once caught.

    It would be nice if WHMCS had a "Wall of Shame" for hosts who have
    • Ripped a Website Design
    • Using Nulled Scripts (WHMCS)
    • Spamming others to get customers
    • Pasting False Reviews


    They should be listed on this for a pre-determined amount of time (120 days)
    I think that's an excellent idea. Personally, I think maybe a little longer period of time might be better.
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    yea like a year!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichelleH View Post
    yea like a year!
    Yeah, thats more like it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichelleH View Post
    yea like a year!
    And anyone who PM Spams should be made a Sticky
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDisk View Post
    And anyone who PM Spams should be made a Sticky
    Try not to give me any ideas haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDisk View Post
    It would be nice if WHMCS had a "Wall of Shame"
    You should ask them.

    If not for our privacy policy, naming and shaming PM spammers would be interesting. But we can't, and aren't looking to hurt those that break our rules...just stop them from doing it. There have been a few rather prolific ones lately, brought to light by one or two reports at most...only to find quite a lot were sent. Spam is up, reports to get it to stop are down.
    Shame, that.

    As for a separate forum for name and shame of rippers and warez licensing and so on, this is thankfully a smallish percentage of incidents overall, so no real need for a separate section for it, I feel. Don't let that stop you asking and discussing it, though. Change sometimes comes about from ideas like this. Have at it.


    [PERSONAL OPINION]
    Having one for that purpose might cause the ripper to go after WHT/iNet as the source of the accusations, since the forum section could be seen as endorsing or even encouraging that type of post. Could make for interesting legal issues.
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    anyone who PM Spams should be made a Sticky
    The member? eww..
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    Quote Originally Posted by bear View Post
    You should ask them.
    Hint taken

    The Ripped Template one is still a hot topic... Its rare but happens
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDisk View Post
    Ripped a Website Design
    Some of the hosts accused of doing this merely have very similar-looking designs, so this one would have to be policed after setting up rules for what considers a rip. And once you have rules, people find ways to avoid them just narrowly enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by KDisk View Post
    Using Nulled Scripts (WHMCS)
    There are places in the world where this is not illegal. Furthermore, would the host be removed once they have purchased a legal version of WHMCS? Whose job will it be to maintain the list?

    Quote Originally Posted by KDisk View Post
    Spamming others to get customers
    If this includes signature spammers, I support it wholeheartedly!

    Quote Originally Posted by KDisk View Post
    Pasting False Reviews
    This can be next to impossible to prove. Some people are so happy about their host that they will make it sound like an ad. It's better to just remove such reviews, if not verification from the user is supplied. I believe this is the case already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bear View Post
    [PERSONAL OPINION]
    Having one for that purpose might cause the ripper to go after WHT/iNet as the source of the accusations, since the forum section could be seen as endorsing or even encouraging that type of post. Could make for interesting legal issues.
    [/PERSONAL OPINION]
    Lemme just add a point behind this. There is a really really really huge hardware community known as anandtech. In there is a sales/trade/buy section, and from there they have pinned topics of users that scammed, who they scammed, a link to the thread that it happened and even full details on the person.

    To date i've heard of no lawsuits and the sections are still up and strong.

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    I think it's a great idea!

    Of course, people will just re-invent themselves and turn up under another name.....but they always get found out.

    I reckon it would be a very popular section and bearing in mind how some people are "playing the system" here, it would visibly show that WHT take it seriously.

    Let's be honest here....how many times have we seen "hosts" ignore their trainwreck threads while continuously posting offers and dragging more people in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr X View Post


    There are places in the world where this is not illegal. Furthermore, would the host be removed once they have purchased a legal version of WHMCS? Whose job will it be to maintain the list?
    Regardless of the Legalities, this is purely a matter of Ethics... Would you trust your domain to a company who blatantly steals from others with no remorse?

    I was thinking of putting together a blog/list of these hosts byt thought WHT may be a better medium as it is a high traffic site
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    I think they would ignore this thread anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDisk View Post
    Regardless of the Legalities, this is purely a matter of Ethics... Would you trust your domain to a company who blatantly steals from others with no remorse?
    It is indeed a matter of ethics. I wouldn't trust my domain to a company that wishes to name and shame others as if we're in the Middle Ages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 8088 View Post
    It is indeed a matter of ethics. I wouldn't trust my domain to a company that wishes to name and shame others as if we're in the Middle Ages.
    I forgot to mention, it is not abnormal for "Nulled" scripts to have backdoors in them. So you can either pay for it the right way or pay for it by having your accounts terminated by the attacker
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