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[target]

Originally Posted by Matt R

I never ran the business into the ground, Jacob did. I spent all of my time attempting to clean up after the mess he put the company into.

Oh my God, Matt 'i didn't do anything wrong, it somebody else his fault' is back in town.

Take some of the advices here in this topic and just keep quiet or very low profile until you payed everyone back. I prefer the first, keep quiet.

[thezombiehunter]

Originally Posted by HR-Martin

At the risk of creating more problems, can I ask "thezombiehunter", if you were/are so keen to make sure customers didn't get screwed over so much and wanted to help them as best you could, why are you insistent on getting money back from Matt ahead of all the paying customers? Surely that's putting yourself before them?

Just to note, I am not condoning what happened, the actions of Matt or anyone else. This is just an observation and genuine question.

I have debts to pay. If we had been given a two week notice, we could have at least made other arrangements. Unfortunately, due to the lack of notice we've already had one of our old co-workers lose his apartment.

It's real lives being affected because of Matthews lack of action. Matthew admitted to me a while back that he wanted nothing to do with BH. I'm not surprised he wasn't paying attention to anything and it cost us the company.

Also, when you consider the size of our old customer base and the amount of money we were getting per month, $500 is going to be a drop in the bucket compared to what Matt owes all of our old customers.

[thezombiehunter]

http://dsservers.net/images/Screensh...1_11.05.59.png

Interesting read.

[deeplist]

Originally Posted by thezombiehunter

http://dsservers.net/images/Screensh...1_11.05.59.png

Interesting read.

I'd say that now he's in violation of Florida code by dissolving a business fraudulently and lying about having all debts taken care of.

[kjetterman]

I agree with Target, Matt. Perhaps silence is your best friend at this point.

None of this is old news IMHO. The wounds are still fresh on this one for many people. So nice that you have gotten over it Matt, but many of us haven't.

I feel bad for the former employees who are not getting their last paycheck. THEY really assisted YOUR former customers in getting data back while you were on vacation.

[ZKuJoe]

Uh oh... (Check www.sunbiz.org for more details.)

http://www.fliptel.net/
http://beyondtheseat.com/
http://www.dijistudios.com/
http://www.rackhero.com/

[JoeMcluer]

Hmm that does not sound good. Well this things happen when that large amount of debt to softlayer is at hand.

[deeplist]

Ha... He might have to dissolve a few of his other "companies" to pay off these debts.

[kjetterman]

Rack Hero? Oh great another hosting company.

[Laststop]

Originally Posted by ZKuJoe

Uh oh... (Check www.sunbiz.org for more details.)

http://www.fliptel.net/
http://beyondtheseat.com/
http://www.dijistudios.com/
http://www.rackhero.com/

Matt (or CU owners/staff) own these site's also? I think I missed the response to this thread where these came into play with the CU and BH matters, if you can fill me in would be great.

They seem all different, and I can't find anything on the first two linking back to Matt or people I've seen or know of CU team.

[Matt R]

Originally Posted by Laststop

Matt (or CU owners/staff) own these site's also? I think I missed the response to this thread where these came into play with the CU and BH matters, if you can fill me in would be great.

They seem all different, and I can't find anything on the first two linking back to Matt or people I've seen or know of CU team.

Fliptel and Diji Studios do belong to myself, yes. RackHero is owned by Ben Gabler, the founder of HostNine. The other site isn't one I've heard of nor recognize. They have absolutely nothing to do with CU or BH in any manner shape or form. People are just bringing them up because they are/were attached to me in any way.

[Matt R]

Originally Posted by deeplist

I'd say that now he's in violation of Florida code by dissolving a business fraudulently and lying about having all debts taken care of.

Incorrect. Brohoster LLC has no debt. Club Uptime LLC has debt as it carried all financials and was the parent to Brohoster LLC. We can not dissolve Club Uptime LLC until all debts are cleared.

[Laststop]

Nevermind, to my above response.

I seen the attached screen shot, I didn't overlook at that at first, very sorry. Mod's can remove my post if needed.

That's strange, even one of the site's are still hosted on a Softlayer Machine it looks like.

Matt, your really in debt to Softlayer for over 60k+? How in the hell would you manage it to get that far in debt, and why the hell would SL allow you to get that far in debt w/ them, and allow you to keep power to the servers and services provided to you by them, Softlayer has strict and tight billing for the time I've used them, Maybe that's changed and they are more, um. Easier?

Thanks,
Warm regards.

[IRCCo Jeff]

Originally Posted by Matt R

"Staff" were contracted on a 1099 status for $500 per two weeks of service to Club Uptime, LLC. They were paid via PayPal at their request.

IRS defines them as employees. They are preferred creditors. In bankruptcy they would be paid first. If you're not technically in bankruptcy, they can file a bankruptcy on your behalf and request that the trustee reverse preferential transfers (any money you paid to vendors, customers, etc. before taking care of your employees). The trustee would literally sue anyone you paid in the past 90 days (365 days if they're related or closely associated with you) in order to give preference back to your employees.

[target]

Originally Posted by kjetterman

I agree with Target, Matt. Perhaps silence is your best friend at this point.

I don't think he will do that