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07-16-2011, 10:24 AM #1Hello World
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Why do people think CloudFlare will stop DDoS attacks?
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Over the last few weeks I have been seeing more and more people start to recommend CloudFlare for the prevention of DDoS attacks, Why is this?0
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07-16-2011, 10:36 AM #2Aspiring Evangelist
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Cause people have no money for real DDOS protection or they don't want to spend big bucks. So any small glimmer of hope is worth clinging to .. for them
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07-16-2011, 10:40 AM #3Web Hosting Master
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because they do.. until they realize it's your site being hit and change the A record so all traffic goes directly to you
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07-16-2011, 10:51 AM #4New Member
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I used cloud flare to make my dns load faster for my site, didn't work... Changed my computers DNS to google's 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 and it loaded my site instantly after a second of updating it, but if cloud flare doesn't speed up the load time then it sure doesn't stop ddosing...
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07-16-2011, 11:14 AM #5Web Hosting Master
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CloudFlare and DDoS
Most of the time I see this happen because someone mistakenly thinks we are a DDoS service & mentions it on board. When it comes to an attack, unfortunately, people rush to find a quick fix to the problem.
There are some things that we do that can help with smaller attacks & there are some things in the threat control panel you can do as well. But a monster attack will most certainly cause us to go direct to a site...0
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07-16-2011, 01:47 PM #6Eternal Member
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The nature of the service alone allows traffic to be spread across various POPs, which can help isolate a DDoS attack pretty well. This alone doesn't do much to help with larger attacks (for that, you'll need other mitigation methods), but I can see CloudFlare being useful for smaller attacks.
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07-16-2011, 02:27 PM #7Hello World
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07-16-2011, 07:36 PM #8Web Hosting Master
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07-16-2011, 07:38 PM #9Web Hosting Master
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CloudFlare and DDoS
Because we don't want to be looked at as a DDoS solution. Generally speaking, people that are having a DDoS look for a quick fix & we do not guarantee that we will stop an attack. We will most certainly go direct to a server when the attack is large & starts to impact other customers.
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07-16-2011, 07:41 PM #10Web Hosting Master
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07-16-2011, 07:51 PM #11Web Hosting Master
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that's ... pretty much a dns change isn't it
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07-16-2011, 07:53 PM #12Web Hosting Master
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07-16-2011, 08:08 PM #13Web Hosting Master
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CloudFlare doesn't work well on high-end DDoS attacks (Ex: 100mbit+), but works fine when script kiddies attempt to take your website(s) offline.
Most script kiddies have a tool which they refer to as a "Booter". A Booter, in logical terms, is a program which sends a command to multiple hacked servers. These hacked servers use their connection to attack your website's IP Address.
When your site is behind CloudFlare, the hacked servers attack CloudFlare, instead of your website. CloudFlare isn't really made for DDoS protection, BUT it is able to filter these small attacks much better than your average web host.
To sum this post up: Yes, CloudFlare is able to filter small DDoS attacks, but not large ones. If you are experiencing DDoS attacks, it's worth trying CloudFlare (It's free), but KEEP IM MIND, that if the script kiddie trying to take your website offline attacks your NON-CLOUDFLARE IP Address, your site will go offline. (Note: Your Non-CloudFlare IP is the IP you had before you switched to CloudFlare's DNS servers).0
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Appdeveloper, the "booters" you are talking about all use cloudflare and I'm sure they regularly get attacks.
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07-16-2011, 09:47 PM #21Web Hosting Master
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07-16-2011, 09:48 PM #22Hello World
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Come on guys, Lets not turn this into a pissing contest...
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07-16-2011, 09:54 PM #24Web Hosting Master
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