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    Talking What do you HONESTLY think?

    So I received a quote on a Dell configuration I was looking into and was wondering if you guys think it is fair or not.

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    16GB Memory (4x4GB), 1333MHz, Dual Ranked UDIMM
    Intel® Core® I3-2100 3.10GHz, 3M cache, Dual Core/4T (65W)
    (2) 500GB 7.2k RPM Serial ATA 3Gbps 3.5-in Cabled Hard Drive

    Cost: $1,500.00

    Any thoughts?

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    It seems like it's expensive to me.
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    That seems pretty expensive given the components.

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    I wouldn't even pay 1k for that. Build your own, save some money.

    I quick google search on some on those components and found that it's worth just under 1k w/ a standard chassis and mobo.

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    If it was half that price it would still be a little high. You can buy 16GB of desktop non-ECC RAM for under $200.
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    Quote Originally Posted by srider View Post
    If it was half that price it would still be a little high. You can buy 16GB of desktop non-ECC RAM for under $200.
    It's a rack server, the chassis will probably not be cheap and they're usually $200+

    A good chassis would cost $300-$400

    So half the price is a little exaggerating...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TinyVox View Post
    It's a rack server, the chassis will probably not be cheap and they're usually $200+

    A good chassis would cost $300-$400

    So half the price is a little exaggerating...
    You're right. And on closer examination it seems the RAM is not just ordinary desktop RAM. My bad.
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    Yeah I knew it was still quite expensive. Where would you guys recommend buying all of the parts? I have been looking into SuperMicro servers as well.

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    I'm going to join the chorus in saying that sounds high.

    To put it in context, I just put together a Supermicro barebones system that includes:

    - Xeon E3-1240
    - 16GB (4x4) of ECC UDIMMs
    - 2 x WD RE4 1TB drives (chassis has 4 x hotswap bays)

    Total cost was right about $1k even.

    The other huge benefit is the Supermicro boards with IPMI 2.0 include KVM and virtual media functions on the board ready to go -- Dell seems to want $300+ for iDRAC6 Enterprise on their systems to get the same functionality. The iDRAC has other features that are great if you're running an enterprise setup, but for a server or two I'm not sure it's worth the premium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandomMaker View Post
    Yeah I knew it was still quite expensive. Where would you guys recommend buying all of the parts? I have been looking into SuperMicro servers as well.
    Yea why not? supermicro case, dual cpu supermicro mobo, 1 xeon, lots of memmory it doesn't have to be ECC, 2x hdd, it would be much less than $1500
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    Quote Originally Posted by spaethco View Post
    I'm going to join the chorus in saying that sounds high.

    To put it in context, I just put together a Supermicro barebones system that includes:

    - Xeon E3-1240
    - 16GB (4x4) of ECC UDIMMs
    - 2 x WD RE4 1TB drives (chassis has 4 x hotswap bays)

    Total cost was right about $1k even.

    The other huge benefit is the Supermicro boards with IPMI 2.0 include KVM and virtual media functions on the board ready to go -- Dell seems to want $300+ for iDRAC6 Enterprise on their systems to get the same functionality. The iDRAC has other features that are great if you're running an enterprise setup, but for a server or two I'm not sure it's worth the premium.
    That sounds fair and is there RAID? I am also curious as to where you got the parts too and would appreciate if you could tell me I've been looking through NewEgg and found their prices to be quite cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandomMaker View Post
    That sounds fair and is there RAID?
    I'm planning on mdraid with CentOS/SciLinux, so I didn't include a hardware RAID card.

    Quote Originally Posted by RandomMaker View Post
    I am also curious as to where you got the parts too and would appreciate if you could tell me I've been looking through NewEgg and found their prices to be quite cheap.
    I sourced some of the parts from NewEgg, and some from a vendor we use at work that offers an employee purchase discount.

    I'm sure others can point you to more public places to get discounted hardware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spaethco View Post
    I'm going to join the chorus in saying that sounds high.

    To put it in context, I just put together a Supermicro barebones system that includes:

    - Xeon E3-1240
    - 16GB (4x4) of ECC UDIMMs
    - 2 x WD RE4 1TB drives (chassis has 4 x hotswap bays)

    Total cost was right about $1k even.

    The other huge benefit is the Supermicro boards with IPMI 2.0 include KVM and virtual media functions on the board ready to go -- Dell seems to want $300+ for iDRAC6 Enterprise on their systems to get the same functionality. The iDRAC has other features that are great if you're running an enterprise setup, but for a server or two I'm not sure it's worth the premium.
    Our latest Sandy Bridge setup is similar to that, so I will also agree. $1,500 is way to much.
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    eWiz is good for parts, eBay is good as well..
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    Seems ok.....

    Edit: you forgot the riser card.

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    You might want to look at this post and give a few of them a call and get quotes... You might be able to save a little on that config..

    http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1016394

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    Did your initial quote from Dell include a warranty?

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    Yes I believe it did come with a Warranty.

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    Get a Supermicro box from Amadi Systems - http://www.amadisystems.com/ Contact them though, the pricing on the site is out of date. You'll get a better price from them, a higher quality product (at least I've never been a fan of Dell's lowest bidder power supplies) and better support.
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