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[uriko]

Is it possible to have Gnome and Kloxo or Webmin at the same time in 1 vps and be able to use them both?

I've been searching for the answer to that question but simply clueless, i hope someone can help I'm still starting out in using vps thanks in advance!

[SwellJoe]

Gnome has nothing to do with the question.

Kloxo and Webmin might coexist peacefully, but I doubt it. Most control panels (except for Webmin and Virtualmin) generate their configuration files from templates, and so it's not safe to modify those files outside of the control panel...meaning if you modify something outside of Kloxo in Webmin, Kloxo would probably not respect those changes. Webmin, on the other hand, does respect changes made outside of Webmin; Virtualmin does so, as well, except for a few specific cases.

So, I'd suggest not trying to run both Webmin and Kloxo. And I would strongly suggest not running Gnome at all on a server. X and Gnome serve no purpose on a server, and just waste resources and add further potential vectors for attack (every service you run is another vector for attackers; so don't run anything you don't need, and a server needs X and Gnome like a fish needs a bicycle).

Virtualmin can be found here: http://www.virtualmin.com and installation instructions here: http://www.virtualmin.com/download

If you did want a web server control panel to run with Webmin, you could run Virtualmin. It is a web server control panel that is built on top of Webmin; so you get both a general purpose systems management UI (Webmin) and a web hosting control panel (Virtualmin) and they work well together because they're developed by the same people. But, if you want Kloxo, you'll pretty much need to just use Kloxo.

[uriko]

so meaning to say, Gnome doesn't have much use?

[care4server]

Gnome you can install if you are trying to have GUI when accessing the server remotely, but most of people here is just happy with the command line interface that is there

[Walter [LxCenter]]

Let me clear this up.

Webmin parses configuration files (apache, ssh, ftp, etc) and manipulates them. On the other hand, Kloxo just keeps your settings in the database and generates configuration from it.

You can run both Kloxo and Webmin at the same time but Kloxo will frequently overwrite Webmin configuration changes. You either have to change things in the Kloxo panel (or via the api) or the template files.

As to "Gnome", you can use it just fine if you have the RAM to spare. Just follow this guide: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/FreeNX

Of course, you don't want to try this if you have less than 1GB of RAM and no swap (OpenVZ/Virtuozzo).

[uriko]

Originally Posted by Walter [LxCenter]

Let me clear this up.

Webmin parses configuration files (apache, ssh, ftp, etc) and manipulates them. On the other hand, Kloxo just keeps your settings in the database and generates configuration from it.

You can run both Kloxo and Webmin at the same time but Kloxo will frequently overwrite Webmin configuration changes. You either have to change things in the Kloxo panel (or via the api) or the template files.

As to "Gnome", you can use it just fine if you have the RAM to spare. Just follow this guide: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/FreeNX

Of course, you don't want to try this if you have less than 1GB of RAM and no swap (OpenVZ/Virtuozzo).

Thank you very much! I already have Gnome using FreeNX so then can I have Kloxo at the same time?

I don't think Webmin and I will be friends. At least for now I have only seen it once and I couldn't understand most of it unlike Kloxo :-S

[WebalizerME]

In my opinion don't use Gnome not if you have 2GB+ memory plus if you gonna have a control panel it should be webmin not kloxo since kloxo takes about 300MB memory just on it's own nvm gnome+vnc Here's a tip google EyeOS it might have what ya searching for