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    Processing for movies web site

    Hi everybody!

    We are looking for processing company for site like this
    r o l l y dot c o m

    We do not have licenses for movies
    Maybe Asian processors do not need a license to the content?

    Thank's!

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    what do you mean? pirated products are always prohibited.

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    Better you go legally for good response and growth.

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    Even if you choose Asian processors that offer V/MC processing, they will still need to comply with copyright laws. A processor that would claim otherwise can lose business any time when uncovered, which will affect you. Non-licensed content is prohibited. The penalties are severe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexPaySafe View Post
    Even if you choose Asian processors that offer V/MC processing, they will still need to comply with copyright laws. A processor that would claim otherwise can lose business any time when uncovered, which will affect you. Non-licensed content is prohibited. The penalties are severe.
    You're right. It may negatively effect to his business.

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    Ok honesty time! No bank in the Visa/MC network is going to process for copyright infringement. The liability is too great, and it's illegal to do in any country who has any kind of treaty with the U.S. Visa/MC has many different offices and none of them will allow you to process credit card payments for copyrighted material you don't have the right to.

    I know the name of one place that might be the only chance to do it, but I won't tell you because this whole line of thought is at aimed at ripping people off for their work and investment. No way.
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    so basically you're pushing warez and malware pay per install downloads. no.

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    Yes, that's exactly what he's planning and I won't mention the one name of anyone who would process for this kind of crap. Let him spend a few years to find out who it is.
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    Hi Fabian and welcome to the forum.

    Although unlicensed content is frowned upon by many, there certainly are solutions out there that work with the clients to make processing capable. You need to speak with someone that truly understands the high risk business.

    Just NEVER pay anyone upfront!
    And don't pay over 8% unless they give you are REAL good reason to do so.

    Again, welcome to the forum and good luck ... I hope this helps!
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    Hi ! Fabien !

    I think you should do this legally, it's more beneficial for you than Illegal Process.

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    If you try to accept credit cards for illegal content, the owners of the content will find you. RIAA has teams to do this. They will complain to VISA/MC and take legal action to blow up whatever MID you use. Nobody in their right mind is going to let you risk their merchant ID for this. Anyone telling you that you can do this is most likely going to advise you to get approved for a shell company/site and just let you process until it blows up. No bank or wallet will knowingly do illegal transactions.
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    Many thanks for answering my question.

    But in fact r o l l y dot c o m and some other movie site don't have copyrights and still work. It's impossible to realise who process this site.

    For example some of such sites use ipadna and netbutpro.

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    I promise that whoever is processing their transactions doesn't know about it. They most likely got another business/site approved and are sending orders through it from that one. Any bank on the Visa/MC network wouldn't approve it.

    It's very common for things like casinos to use shell companies, get setup, and then toss orders from a different business through it. The downside of this method is it usually doesn't last. A RIAA investigator will purchase something then trace it to them by sending a subpoena into Visa/MC to find out the acquiring bank and processor. They're using a shell company and I promise their bank doesn't know about the site, not yet anyway.

    Nick
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    Thanks again!

    Such sites as r o l l y com still work, take money by credit cards for monthly subscribe for moviebase. If it's easy to catch them, close the site and shut done the processing why are they still working fine?

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    With the major crackdown by the ICE, FBI, and other justice departments I would stay away from any streaming content distribution channels that are copyrighted materials. You will continue to read about high fines and jail time... legitimately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FabienMenz View Post
    Thanks again!

    Such sites as r o l l y com still work, take money by credit cards for monthly subscribe for moviebase. If it's easy to catch them, close the site and shut done the processing why are they still working fine?
    Just because one person is doing illegal things doesn't mean it makes it okay for you to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by quantumphysics View Post
    Just because one person is doing illegal things doesn't mean it makes it okay for you to?
    You don't think that argument will hold up in court? Well I only did it because roll y dot com did it and they didn't get shut down ? lol.

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    It's because RIAA hasn't taken aim at them yet. I'm sure they have a lot of sites like these they're going after, just a matter of time. They could get reported to Visa/MC as well, but RIAA has a lot more interest in them going down.
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    Very true Nick .. I think it is only a matter of time.

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    It's really easy to close them if you report them to RIAA. Their processor doesn't know they're doing it for illegal content and would shut them down in a heartbeat if they knew. RIAA will go after them with fangs out.

    I promise you they are processing under a different URL that was approved and the processing place isn't doing a reverse DNS lookup to assure the orders are being taken from that URL. Accounts like that are hard to get now with the credit crunch. If you want to torpedo them, report them to RIAA and they'll do the work.
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    * With the greatest respect..

    Judging by FabienMenz's posting history so far either they are looking for the quickest way to get rich quick from blackhat business, or they are a clumsy shill for someone investigating the blackhat processing market.

    "Processing for OEM soft website"
    "Processing for movies web site"
    "Please recomend processing for replica site"

    I guess we will see the true scumbag 'high risk' brokers come out from under the forum floor boards to post soon enough -- many of them here don't seem to be able to resist.

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