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    .XXX Domains

    I think the rumors about the .xxx .shop domains that are bieng released in october have been going around. i already pre-ordered a few, though i have my doubt about these extensions

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    i already pre-ordered a few,
    AFAIK the ICM registry only allows you to "apply to reserve names" if you own the same domain name in another extension or want to protect a trademark. There is no "pre-order". You didn't pay any money did you?

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    The way I see it, it should be a direct hit. But my real concern is what happens to those adult sites that are on other TLDs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamchi View Post
    though i have my doubt about these extensions
    You can read more about this domain extension at here: chotocheeta.com/2010/06/26/icann-to-approve-xxx-domain-extension-for-adult-porn-industry/

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    Quote Originally Posted by nancysmith View Post
    You can read more about this domain extension at here: chotocheeta.com/2010/06/26/icann-to-approve-xxx-domain-extension-for-adult-porn-industry/
    how can i read, It's not working properly.

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    They have opened up pre-regs. Why dont you just go ahead and get it done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamchi View Post
    I think the rumors about the .xxx .shop domains that are bieng released in october have been going around
    Registrations are not going to be cheap, and some "generic" names will be held back after the sunrise periods for use by ICM as "directories" of approved .xxx sites

    You can register your "interest" in domains, but no date is available yet for when the sunrise/landrush periods will start
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    Registrations are not going to be cheap, and some "generic" names will be held back after the sunrise periods for use by ICM as "directories" of approved .xxx sites
    Indeed. Such industry always have a lot of money involved. So I suppose that not a problem for such companies to pay a high fee.

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    will the domain name price will be same as in .com etc or there will be some difference in price? n what is the exact date of release of such extensions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aliza Shehpati View Post
    will the domain name price will be same as in .com etc or there will be some difference in price? n what is the exact date of release of such extensions?
    I doubt they will be priced the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HundredProof View Post
    my real concern is what happens to those adult sites that are on other TLDs?
    Nothing at all, they will remain. It's incredibly unlikely they will be asked or forced to release any names already in use, so this will be just another extension that is far too easy to block. I have no doubt they will sell plenty of them, but adult on every TLD is probably a permanent condition.
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    IMO total waste of time and money getting .XXX approved.

    dunno what the heck ICANN is doing recently...
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    the good thing is that you can get your trademark blocked for a fee.So nobody can register the domain.

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    where i can buy type domain?

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    you can not buy this domains yet .
    you can only preorder them .

    informations can you find here

    http://dd24.net/?js=1&language=en

    and here http://www.domainmonster.com/domain-name/xxx/

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    This is the first I have heard of the .shop extension, got any links to more info.

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    yes there is one registrar who is applying at icann for dotshop

    their homepage is http://www.dotshop.org . the registrars is a japanease registrar called gmo

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    Quote Originally Posted by bear View Post
    Nothing at all, they will remain. It's incredibly unlikely they will be asked or forced to release any names already in use, so this will be just another extension that is far too easy to block. I have no doubt they will sell plenty of them, but adult on every TLD is probably a permanent condition.
    Ok. But in actuality, the question is what happens to my domains in terms of value and SEM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bear View Post
    Nothing at all, they will remain. It's incredibly unlikely they will be asked or forced to release any names already in use, so this will be just another extension that is far too easy to block. I have no doubt they will sell plenty of them, but adult on every TLD is probably a permanent condition.
    I'd have to disagree with you there... give it some years and .xxx will be the only place you are allowed to host nude pics/vids. This will not happen right away, but it will happen.

    I don't see how anyone thinks "what_nude_pics2222.com" will be out there... they may have to point their .com to a .xxx... but that will be blocked, as you stated. That is the key.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hekwu View Post
    give it some years and .xxx will be the only place you are allowed to host nude pics/vids. This will not happen right away, but it will happen.
    So you suggest that they will make people who have registered and promoted these domains hand them over or disable access simply because there's a new TLD launched? The uproar would be huge and lawsuits would be legion. Then there's the decision on what is adult, and what is art (for instance). Some art can be considered titillating, while some p0rn could be considered 'artistic', I suppose. Interesting to see how they nail down *that* definition.
    they may have to point their .com to a .xxx... but that will be blocked, as you stated.
    The point is, xxx is easy to filter. I believe this won't replace other TLDs, though it may see some popularity as another place to get adult content. Early on, ".com" was supposed to be commercial only, ".net" for network providers and ".org" for non-profits only. That shifted once it was realized names were finite, and/or people ignored the restrictions enough that it became logistically impossible to "police" it.
    While they may consider such a restriction on xxx vs other mainstream tlds, I seriously doubt they will force compliance of one TLD only for adult (and if you consider they're getting sales for all TLDs, it's in their best interest not to do this).

    The thought of having to find, contact, argue, disable, then fight the inevitable lawsuits from every adult site/domain currently out there just staggers the imagination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bear View Post
    So you suggest that they will make people who have registered and promoted these domains hand them over or disable access simply because there's a new TLD launched? The uproar would be huge and lawsuits would be legion. Then there's the decision on what is adult, and what is art (for instance). Some art can be considered titillating, while some p0rn could be considered 'artistic', I suppose. Interesting to see how they nail down *that* definition.

    The point is, xxx is easy to filter. I believe this won't replace other TLDs, though it may see some popularity as another place to get adult content. Early on, ".com" was supposed to be commercial only, ".net" for network providers and ".org" for non-profits only. That shifted once it was realized names were finite, and/or people ignored the restrictions enough that it became logistically impossible to "police" it.
    While they may consider such a restriction on xxx vs other mainstream tlds, I seriously doubt they will force compliance of one TLD only for adult (and if you consider they're getting sales for all TLDs, it's in their best interest not to do this).

    The thought of having to find, contact, argue, disable, then fight the inevitable lawsuits from every adult site/domain currently out there just staggers the imagination.
    Probably they would later migrate them to their .xxx ancillary TLDs.

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    I think a good idea would be to restrict adult content to only .xxx domains, would help regulate things much more.

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    No i didnt pay money, and i mean "reserve" i only pay when i get the domain.

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    Almost everyone I know in the adult industry (I've sold a lot of adult domains in the past), no one is keen on adopting .xxx. Regardless of any speculative hype put on it initially, it is bound to fail.
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    The problem is that it is now more than a quarter of a century since the first .com was registered. This is the 21st century .xxx missed the boat long ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NixDot View Post
    I think a good idea would be to restrict adult content to only .xxx domains, would help regulate things much more.
    I can see that "coming down the pipe" eventually. Give it another 10 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bear View Post
    So you suggest that they will make people who have registered and promoted these domains hand them over or disable access simply because there's a new TLD launched? The uproar would be huge and lawsuits would be legion. Then there's the decision on what is adult, and what is art (for instance). Some art can be considered titillating, while some p0rn could be considered 'artistic', I suppose. Interesting to see how they nail down *that* definition.
    All jokes aside, yes, I do believe (seriously) that the launch of this xxx will be the death of porn sites on .com. I don't see how it could not eventually lead to that happening.

    If the US passes a law mandating this, it will happen. You can sue as much as you want. No one in DC will fight for some porn site being allowed on .com. Think about that for a second. Really... you can argue free speech and all that jazz... but people are tired of having their kids allowed to visit porn sites.

    Will they have to nail down the art vs. porn? Yes... that is a given. Eventually, when domainers start losing domains to the DOJ, they will conform. We all want to protect our kids against this crap. And hell, you know (or have the ability to know) that I own some porn site domain names.

    We (domainers) might not like the change... but will it be good for the "global community"? That is the question we must ask ourselves and what many countries will eventually ask (IMO). That is how laws are made. Not that laws are always right...

    The point is, xxx is easy to filter. I believe this won't replace other TLDs, though it may see some popularity as another place to get adult content. Early on, ".com" was supposed to be commercial only, ".net" for network providers and ".org" for non-profits only. That shifted once it was realized names were finite, and/or people ignored the restrictions enough that it became logistically impossible to "police" it.
    I'm not suggesting this will happen tomorrow... I think it will happen over the course of several years. How long? I don't know... maybe five years.

    Eventually the governments are going to look at domains and come up with ways to regulate them. Right now you have a mess... hackers are leading the way toward this reform...

    Many don't know it, but we are living history that will impact the net forever. I am having so much fun reading and watching all of this unfold.

    While they may consider such a restriction on xxx vs other mainstream tlds, I seriously doubt they will force compliance of one TLD only for adult (and if you consider they're getting sales for all TLDs, it's in their best interest not to do this).

    The thought of having to find, contact, argue, disable, then fight the inevitable lawsuits from every adult site/domain currently out there just staggers the imagination.
    And again, once case law is made with one case, the others will fall very quickly. See my point? Really... think about that. If the government decides this is going to happen and it has public support, good luck.

    I often tell people to read the history of radio to understand what can happen to the internet. Heck, look at how ATT is coming back together... how to you get your internet? All of this stuff is connected. Regulation is not out of the question...

    I don't think you are many others are looking at this issue in the correct way. ICANN won't have a say in what will happen. Hell, they will be happen with raising rates and making new domains somehow. ICANN does not care about domainers... of course, that is my opinion.

    My bottom line:

    Domains need to put themselves in positions to ensure they are not caught off guard. I don't think this will be something they can battle. Dpn't think they should give up.. but just ensure they have a "way out" in case things go bad and they have to go .xxx.

    Am I promoting .xxx? I think it will be overpriced BS. Every new URL release stiffs domainers more and more... Domainers will need to decide what is good for them... may other extentions? I can't say since I've not decided what I'm going to do.

    Yea, Bear, you actually caught me thinking seriously about something. And I might not be right... I could be wrong....
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    The government cannot/will not force websites to switch to a monopolistic privately-owned for-profit registry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Techno View Post
    The government cannot/will not force websites to switch to a monopolistic privately-owned for-profit registry.
    I agree 100%. The "free speech and all that jazz" argument holds no water.

    If you have underage children browsing the Internet, why aren't they supervised by an adult? And not just because of so-called 'porn' sites. There are far worse sites out there. Do you want your young child to stumble on an animal torture site? How about a legitimate research site that studies vehicle accidents, complete with crash site pictures showing dismembered humans, blood, and gore?

    If the argument is that "it's for the children" then a rude awakening is probable because adult content isn't the only content that could cause some sort of harm to a child.

    If the argument is that "it's easier to filter" then I submit that that's a cop-out. Even if "adult" sites migrate to .xxx, what about the various blog hosting sites? There are plenty of adult pictures on those sites, so you still have a filtering problem.

    Regardless, Techno's right: No sites will be forced to move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Techno View Post
    The government cannot/will not force websites to switch to a monopolistic privately-owned for-profit registry.
    Government cannot? Just like the government cannot take a domain. Wait. Remember that argument?

    I think you underestimate the power of government... and I'm sure you can come up with an instant were the government has forced someone to use mono private for profit company before. Instances all around us... Government regulates all kinds of products/services.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domainitor View Post

    If the argument is that "it's easier to filter" then I submit that that's a cop-out. Even if "adult" sites migrate to .xxx, what about the various blog hosting sites? There are plenty of adult pictures on those sites, so you still have a filtering problem.
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    What does being a blog has to do with anything? Just because you have a blog, you still can't host your child porn.

    Oh, wait... why can't you host child porn again? For some that would be free speech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hekwu View Post
    What does being a blog has to do with anything? Just because you have a blog, you still can't host your child porn.

    Oh, wait... why can't you host child porn again? For some that would be free speech.
    I'm not talking about child porn. Odd that you would take it there....

    I'm talking about people posting pictures of themselves, pictures of the ex-girlfriend or ex-boyfriend after a bad breakup, compromising pictures of the neighbors in their back yard, whatever. Having a .xxx TLD does nothing to prevent adult content in the other TLDs. Blogs represent but one example of the myriad realms where adult content is posted regularly, thus presenting a filtering issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hekwu View Post
    Government cannot? Just like the government cannot take a domain. Wait. Remember that argument?

    I think you underestimate the power of government... and I'm sure you can come up with an instant were the government has forced someone to use mono private for profit company before. Instances all around us... Government regulates all kinds of products/services.
    The problem is more an economic one that a political one. By forcing all the adult sites over to one registry they are taking a huge market from all the other tld's, and that's not competitive, it would give a huge advantage to .xxx over any other tld. Hence the monopoly comment -

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    The Sherman [Antitrust] Act, passed in 1890, makes monopolies illegal in the United States. So while government can be powerful, it swings both ways.... (The EU's competition law is relevant, too.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domainitor View Post
    The Sherman [Antitrust] Act, passed in 1890, makes monopolies illegal in the United States. So while government can be powerful, it swings both ways.... (The EU's competition law is relevant, too.)
    Yes, illegal monopolies are illegal. Who decides if something is illegal or legal? lol

    I'd bet you can name some legal monopolies... we all can. Well, maybe some of us can't. I dunno.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coax View Post
    The problem is more an economic one that a political one. By forcing all the adult sites over to one registry they are taking a huge market from all the other tld's, and that's not competitive, it would give a huge advantage to .xxx over any other tld. Hence the monopoly comment -
    Thanks for clarification. My point was and still is that it does not matter. The government has allowed plenty of legal monopolies.

    Monopoly or keeping the kids safe? (That would be the argument.)

    I don't see a monopoly issue anyway... the sites will still have their .com sites and pay $$ for that url. The argument would fall flat, IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domainitor View Post
    I'm not talking about child porn. Odd that you would take it there....
    I would take it there... but of course you missed the point. How did I know that would happen? But child porn is easy since it has a lot of case law already... and it is easy to understand for most people -- no grey area with most people... child porn is illegal. Easy place to start an argument... until people pretend like they don't understand. lol

    To spell it out so you can understand...

    The point was that once something is illegal, it is illegal. Just because you don't want it to be illegal, means very little. If those sites would fail to comply, the gov't would simply take them over. Three years ago, five people would argue that the gov't can't take over a domain and their would be blood in the streets if that happened. Trust me... been in that argument. Now look were we are.

    Anyway, it would take more of an effort from nations so people simply can't move to another tld and rock on... but they could build on top of international criminal law, treaties, or whatever. You start hitting on transnational crime at that point...



    I'm talking about people posting pictures of themselves, pictures of the ex-girlfriend or ex-boyfriend after a bad breakup, compromising pictures of the neighbors in their back yard, whatever. Having a .xxx TLD does nothing to prevent adult content in the other TLDs. Blogs represent but one example of the myriad realms where adult content is posted regularly, thus presenting a filtering issue.
    People can do that... and will. There will be case law on this stuff... it is all new. But like now, I can't put TVs in my car and play porn while driving down the street. Well, I CAN but what would happen if a cop were to see me? I pay a fine...

    How do we pay the salaries of these "new" cops? Did someone say fine? lol

    Mr. Porn King, I've seen your bleak future.

    Think I'll go play some poker on a .com hosted in the USA. Oh, wait...
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    When can we buy any domain? n where to check the names of available domains?

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    you cannot register .XXX yet. And if you are not in the adult biz or have trademarks you will need to wait till the landrush. Landrush willbe dec 6th if all does not get delayed. The EU is not to happy bout this extension is joining forces with the US to get this dropped. Doubt they will be able todo it but delay's may be in order.

    dot shop... This is a generic term and cannot apply for the new gTLD application yet. First round is only for brands (sony, canon, apple, ibm) and geo locations (paris , hamburg, nyc etc),

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