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    is LT still selling dedicated server in WHT?

    i have not seen their promote in here for ages.


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    Their website seems to cater more for the upper market now, and their prices have increased a lot too. I wouldn't be surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkywizard View Post
    What is LT?
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    That's what I had thought, but somehow thought they got bought out by ThePlanet a long time ago and stopped being their own brand. Or am I confusing them with someone else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by funkywizard View Post
    That's what I had thought, but somehow thought they got bought out by ThePlanet a long time ago and stopped being their own brand. Or am I confusing them with someone else?
    The Planet was bought by / merged with Softlayer.

    LT was a growing name, until they raised all prices for all customers one day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by interactive3d View Post
    LT was a growing name, until they raised all prices for all customers one day.
    Raising prices is not a bad move if you actually back it up with solid services. Many providers here (and out there) are selling for far less then they could sell for, playing a dangerous game on small margins.
    Besides costs for everything but bandwidth (and this will change soon) is rising year by year, fact is that dedicated servers are rented out below their cost by some parties and thats eventually not good for anyone certainly not for the parties that do play the 'who blinks first' game.
    Healthy margins, solid data-centers, solid gear, professional support will eventually triumph and i am sure everyone realizes this if they think twice about it.
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    We were once a customer of LT .. and believe me they were one of the most pathetic datacenters around..

    Once we had a server crash and the server had two drives.. one was the OS drive and other was backup...

    LT technicians said, the servers main OS primary drive had failed and need to be replaced.. We warned them to preserve our backup drive and authorized them to replace the faulty bad primary OS drive with reloaded OS. Later LT misplaced our backup drive as well and we were left without backups...

    Thank fully we had off site backups (which were a couple of days old) but LT were so careless to misplace our backup drive that instead of refunding us for the inconvenience caused, they did not even bother to appologize.. I am glad they are not around here anymore.. Probably they wer never worth to be in this industry..

    Btw this incident took place in around 2006 when they had not acquired Fastservers till then..
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    Ah, I must have been thinking of ev1 servers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer Robinson View Post
    Btw this incident took place in around 2006 when they had not acquired Fastservers till then..
    Not too defend LT in this, but a lot changes in this industry over weeks or a few months. Reviews that are many months or even years old are pretty much worthless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swiftnoc View Post
    Raising prices is not a bad move if you actually back it up with solid services. Many providers here (and out there) are selling for far less then they could sell for, playing a dangerous game on small margins.
    Besides costs for everything but bandwidth (and this will change soon) is rising year by year, fact is that dedicated servers are rented out below their cost by some parties and thats eventually not good for anyone certainly not for the parties that do play the 'who blinks first' game.
    Healthy margins, solid data-centers, solid gear, professional support will eventually triumph and i am sure everyone realizes this if they think twice about it.
    Absolutely. I think people are saying "o what happened to LT" when they should be admiring the fact that they grew up out of the budget space to healthy margins.
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    LT network is stable for me. i am using Theplanet now, the network looks not that good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolraul View Post
    Absolutely. I think people are saying "o what happened to LT" when they should be admiring the fact that they grew up out of the budget space to healthy margins.
    I agree.. many on WHT should take notes..
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    I believe LT bowed out of the WHT when they purchased FastServers a while back and then raised prices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolraul View Post
    Absolutely. I think people are saying "o what happened to LT" when they should be admiring the fact that they grew up out of the budget space to healthy margins.
    Who defines healthy margins? Some of the more profitable hosting companies cater what Swiftway calls the budget servers. Do they have more downtime and more issues than other parties? I very much doubt it. With scale, business volume, they know downtimes are more expensive than running a quality business.

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    ahh LT one always remembers their first.

    completed freak out for the majority of clients when they raised prices. The discussion about the price hikes were pretty intense in the LT forums (I tried to find the forums,seems they have shut them down).

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    Quote Originally Posted by interactive3d View Post
    Who defines healthy margins? Some of the more profitable hosting companies cater what Swiftway calls the budget servers. Do they have more downtime and more issues than other parties? I very much doubt it. With scale, business volume, they know downtimes are more expensive than running a quality business.

    Don't make the mistake to compare the small price competing hosters with the large industry leaders.
    I don't have any idea what you mean to be honest. What are you saying? Having better margins per unit but still selling lots of units is always a good thing right?

    I have no idea if their volume is the same but I know their margins are better than most hosts on WHT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by interactive3d View Post
    Some of the more profitable hosting companies cater what Swiftway calls the budget servers. Do they have more downtime and more issues than other parties? I very much doubt it.
    I am 100% sure that the Premium industry leading providers provide better service and uptime then the budget industry leaders.
    Thats eventually the inevitable difference between Premium and Budget
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    They grew up out of the budget space to healthy margins.
    Did they really? It's private and I have not seen a lot of financial info about LT. In term of revenues according to Tier1 research they kind of stalled since they acquired FastServers. It terms of margins, it would be interesting to know. My guess is they intended to grow a lot more than they did.
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    I am 100% sure that the Premium industry leading providers provide better service and uptime then the budget industry leaders. Thats eventually the inevitable difference between Premium and Budget
    It depends a lot. Rackspace had their share of datacenter problems in the last years and they are premium. Amazon too and their services are not cheap. I think it depends a lot on really how the infrastructures are managed either if the company is budget or premium.
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    Today they posted a for-hire ad on Cisco-NSP for both Kansas City and Dallas. Can't be doing that bad if they are hiring skilled/technical positions in multiple locations.
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    What's LT ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FastServ View Post
    Today they posted a for-hire ad on Cisco-NSP for both Kansas City and Dallas. Can't be doing that bad if they are hiring skilled/technical positions in multiple locations.
    Eh .. while I understand where you are coming from I have seen departments downsize 5 people and hire back 2 positions a couple of months later. They cut too many positions or jettisoned higher cost employees. It doesn't mean they are doing well from that alone. It just means they have an opening.
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