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    Moving From Reseller To Dedicated (Advice Needed)

    Hi, I could really do with a little bit of help in finding the right option for me. Currently we are a small web development that use a reseller account with HeartInternet (500 per year) but we need something better.

    HeartInternet are not all bad, there support is the fastest I've ever had but there uptime must be somewhere about 80% and the connection speed can become unusable.

    So we've decided moving to a dedicated server is the right choice. We have a budget of 1200 per year. I found one on 1and1.co.uk that seems good:

    Quad-Core XL
    CPU: AMD X4 2.3GHz
    RAM: 8GB DDR2
    HDD: 1TB Usable
    Connection: Unlimited 100 Mbit
    Software: Parallels Small Business Panel
    SSL: 1

    Now my only problem with 1and1 is how slow they are at everything. Getting back to customers and even registering domain names. For example as a test I recently ordered a .com address from 1and1.co.uk and an hour later tried registering it with name.com and the name.com got it first which is a little silly.

    Could anyone recommend other hosts with similar packages that might be better than 1and1?
    Cheers, Jason

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    There are many hosts that provide dedicated servers. You can see them in the offers section. Also, don't narrow your search to a single host. You will get a nice deal.

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    Stay far and away from 1&1 . I've got friends that got ran over by their billing and support . Your budget per year is a bit small but you can find quite a few decent servers .

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    Check out this thread. I recently got servers from them and I use them to split and sale through my web-hosting site. Things are cool and I have 10 users in this server right now. They are satisfied and I still can add some more. Their support is outstanding thought servers are semi managed.
    http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?p=7469770

    Highly Recommended.

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    hi, I am working for Coreix. Im just going to mention a few things here and not give our prices or deals (they are on the site).
    1.check if the BW is contended or uncontended. .
    2.Check their network connectivity. Understand what it means to be connecting to a T1 provider vs multiple T2s or just BT.
    3.Ask for specifics about the hardware, i.e. chassis type, chip code, ram type, HDD type, you can then get some idea about how old the gear is that you are dealing with - older means more chance of failure.
    4. Going back to the chip - check the rating at cpubenchmark or similar.

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    Is UK location a requirement?

    Quote Originally Posted by dciso View Post
    HeartInternet

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    Cheers everyone for the quick replies. Nope UK location isn't a requirement although most people accessing the server will be from the UK & EU. I've been having a look at LeaseWeb, they seem pretty good even if they would cost a little more than the budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dciso View Post
    Cheers everyone for the quick replies. Nope UK location isn't a requirement although most people accessing the server will be from the UK & EU. I've been having a look at LeaseWeb, they seem pretty good even if they would cost a little more than the budget.
    You may also want to consider eUKhost.

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    Hi,
    If you notice a slow responce on the stage of ordering, imagine what kind of reaction time you'll get when the money has already been paid to the hoster and you ask for some help from the support. Such delays should be a signal.

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    Leaseweb might be a host for you to check out.

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    Hi OP, the 1st few things you need to think about is as below. Best if you could actually answer them which would actually make the search a little narrower than it is now.

    1. Where must the host be located at?
    2. How much bandwidth are you using?
    3. Server specs and what you're using it for?
    4. Do you need it managed or unmanaged? How good are your Linux/Windows server management skills? (Most important question)
    5. Do you need a Control Panel? If yes, which do you need?

    Those are the few things which you really need to know before you consider moving. Do answer those questions and then your scope of search will become more refined and more to the point.
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    1. Where must the host be located at?
    - Europe

    2. How much bandwidth are you using?
    - This is what I am unsure off because our in house server used a university network which we didn't have to pay for because they where providing support for small local businesses so I have no idea how much we where using that's why I have been looking at 100Mbit Unmetered.

    3. Server specs and what you're using it for?
    - 1TB Storage
    - RAM 4GB - 8GB
    - Quad-Core

    4. Do you need it managed or unmanaged? How good are your Linux/Windows server management skills? (Most important question)
    - Unmanaged, We currently have a server running in our office which has a dedicated IP from our ISP but we are moving office so we no longer have that option. So I feel thats given me the enough experience to go unmanaged.

    5. Do you need a Control Panel? If yes, which do you need?
    - I would prefer to have cPanel as I've used it before but Plesk would do.

    I thinking about getting the 100 Mbps Unmetered - M on LeaseWeb for 113.20, would you recommend updating to the SLA Bronze (24x7xNBD) which would push the price up to 158.20?

    Cheers, Jason.

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    With your answer now comes mine...

    You should be good to go with Providers such as Hetzner, OVH and etc. Their prices should suit your needs perfectly fine

    Since you're looking for an unmanaged service, you should be good to go with most any providers available.
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    If you go with Leaseweb, definitely get their support package otherwise you may need to wait a long time for a reply.
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    Thanks everyone for your replies, I've had a good look around a lot of hosts and I'm very keen to go with OVH:

    EG 2011 AMD
    - AMD Opteron 4174 6x 2.30+ GHz
    - 32 GB DDR3
    - 2x 2TB - SATA2
    - 1 Gbps (If you exceed 20 TB / month, the connection will be limited to 10 Mbps)
    - cPanel (CentOS 5 64bit)

    Cost: 1800 per year (I'll be able to claim the VAT back so it will work out at 1500)

    The plan is to order the server next week so if anyone has any thoughts on this one please let me know.

    Cheers, Jason.

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    Are majority of your customers based in France? You may want to do some research for them on here. I have never used them, but I'm pretty sure I saw others say that their network is not that good outside of France.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ayksolutions View Post
    If you go with Leaseweb, definitely get their support package otherwise you may need to wait a long time for a reply.
    Actually, you will get a response fast, if you submit a ticket. Some issues take more time than others to resolve, but a "best efforts" SLA is included with all equipment leases, which covers no charge support for parts and labor to return the server to original operating condition, if a hardware issue arises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeaseWeb View Post
    Actually, you will get a response fast, if you submit a ticket. Some issues take more time than others to resolve, but a "best efforts" SLA is included with all equipment leases, which covers no charge support for parts and labor to return the server to original operating condition, if a hardware issue arises.
    I was just mentioning what I have read here. It seems like the consensus is that it's worth getting the support package with you to get quicker responses, that's all. If you can get the same level of support by default, then of course the sla package is not needed.
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