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05-13-2011, 05:13 PM #1Junior Guru Wannabe
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Leaseweb or OVH
Hey guys,
I'm trying to work out the better dedicated server offer, One from leaseweb or OVH, leaseweb would come cheaper, What I need to know though is: Does leaseweb have a better network than OVH?
Hope you can help,
Jamie
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05-13-2011, 05:19 PM #2Junior Guru Wannabe
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I've not used Leaseweb, though I have used OVH. I would say OVH are fantastic! In the past i've always received great speeds from them.
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05-13-2011, 05:23 PM #3Junior Guru Wannabe
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05-13-2011, 05:34 PM #4Web Hosting Guru
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If you are looking for a dedicated server is there any reason you are limiting yourself to just two companies? I think your best bet is to shop around and get multiple quotes. Also check out the reviews of companies, this board is a great place for that too.
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05-13-2011, 05:35 PM #5Junior Guru Wannabe
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05-13-2011, 06:12 PM #6Junior Guru
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OVH has 14 public and 17 private peers with other networks/ISPs.
Leaseweb got 23+22.
Of course if they renew their peering DB :-)
Besides that, Leaseweb overall bandwidth capacity and network are great.
OVH doesn't announces capacity or network, only this:
http://www.ovh.co.uk/aboutus/visits/network.xml#
Leaseweb got this on the other hand,
http://www.leaseweb.com/en/help/all-...astructure-map
But except their networks, what about yours ?
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05-13-2011, 06:42 PM #7Junior Guru Wannabe
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never had any (major) problems with OVH. they're the bee's knees.
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05-13-2011, 06:46 PM #8
So you don't have any direct experience of them?
Really? What about...
http://weathermap.ovh.net/
http://www.ovh.co.uk/aboutus/ovh_infra.xml
Leaseweb and OVH both have great European networks. Leaseweb possibly have the edge on USA connections but OVH seem to be doing something about that recently and adding new routes and capacity.
As chrismfz said, it's really more about where your target audience is. You need to find which suits you best. If you tell us more about your intended usage we might be able to help you better.
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05-13-2011, 06:53 PM #9Web Hosting Master
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Doesn't Leaseweb make you pay 3 months in advance if it's under a certain euro amount?
Also OP, your site's footer is completely screwed up with PHP code leaking out, just saying
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05-13-2011, 06:55 PM #10Junior Guru
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05-13-2011, 07:00 PM #11Aspiring Evangelist
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If your audience is in the USA, go with leaseweb. (and buy something there)
If not, ovh has the best European network, no dubts about that. Also, I find ovh to have better prices, but maybe you got a custom quote from leaseweb.
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05-13-2011, 08:44 PM #12Web Hosting Master
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It's worth pointing out that there are other companies that can offer better prices and have the servers located in the same datacenters Leaseweb uses.
I'll mention just dediserv.eu and swiftway.co.uk
With the last, I currently have a 100mbps unmetered server but as far as I know most cheap servers are located by Leaseweb in Evoswitch datacenter and (I'm almost sure) my server is in the other datacenter (Schubert Phillips or something).
I'm very happy with the speed, I'd say as fast as I would be with Leaseweb... probably the only complain would be lowish speeds to Australia and Singapore (60k-200k) but then again i have very few users from there and maybe they also had slow internet plans.
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05-13-2011, 09:12 PM #13
That's down to routing. The vast majority of traffic from Europe to Asia and Oceana will go west cross-Atlantic, then across the USA to Los Angeles / San Jose / Fremont (or possibly Seattle) to pick up a trans-Pacific cable. It's effectively going the long (wrong) way round the globe
If you're lucky you'll pick up an eastern routing, like Tata. OVH get that one best via Paris...
2 <1 ms * * rbx-1-6k.fr.eu [91.121.130.1]
3 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms rbx-g2-a9.fr.eu [91.121.131.14]
4 4 ms * 4 ms th1-1-6k.fr.eu [91.121.131.142]
5 7 ms 4 ms 13 ms tata.as6453.fr.eu [213.186.32.242]
6 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms if-10-1456.tcore1.PYE-Paris.as6453.net [80.231.154.77]
7 112 ms 122 ms 112 ms if-3-2.tcore1.MLV-Mumbai.as6453.net [80.231.154.69]
2 1 ms 13 ms 1 ms te0-1-0-1.ccr21.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com [149.6.129.49]
3 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms te0-2-0-1.ccr21.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.48.166]
4 15 ms 12 ms 12 ms te0-1-0-7.mpd22.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.49.170]
5 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms tata.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.15.150]
6 133 ms 133 ms 132 ms if-4-2.tcore1.PVU-Paris.as6453.net [80.231.153.10]
7 148 ms 132 ms 127 ms if-2-2.tcore1.PYE-Paris.as6453.net [80.231.154.18]
8 156 ms 142 ms 162 ms if-3-2.tcore1.MLV-Mumbai.as6453.net [80.231.154.69]Last edited by Postbox; 05-13-2011 at 09:16 PM.
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05-13-2011, 10:06 PM #14Web Hosting Master
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I agree. I have actually had only once an issue with routing to a particular datacenter in US, sent a ticket and very promptly they tweaked the routing and asked me for feedback. (Not sure this would be even possible with Leaseweb as with one server you're probably just too small for them to care)
So I know it's possible to ask them to at least try to improve some routing but for me it's just not that important.
Here's some traceroutes, for comparison:
PHP Code:|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| 94-100-29-121.static.swiftnoc.com - 0 | 44 | 44 | 0 | 2 | 65 | 0 |
| fbra2-c.ams.nl.eu.swiftway.net - 3 | 40 | 39 | 0 | 12 | 168 | 1 |
|-0-1.1051.mpd21.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com - 0 | 44 | 44 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 1 |
| te7-3.mpd01.ams04.atlas.cogentco.com - 0 | 44 | 44 | 1 | 16 | 188 | 2 |
| tata.ams04.atlas.cogentco.com - 0 | 44 | 44 | 1 | 5 | 15 | 1 |
|f-3-3205.tcore1.AV2-Amsterdam.as6453.net - 0 | 44 | 44 | 1 | 4 | 17 | 1 |
| if-5-2.tcore1.FNM-Frankfurt.as6453.net - 0 | 44 | 44 | 7 | 8 | 31 | 7 |
| if-7-2.tcore1.FR0-Frankfurt.as6453.net - 0 | 44 | 44 | 7 | 8 | 40 | 7 |
| if-4-2.tcore1.PVU-Paris.as6453.net - 0 | 44 | 44 | 16 | 20 | 78 | 17 |
| if-2-2.tcore1.PYE-Paris.as6453.net - 0 | 44 | 44 | 16 | 17 | 38 | 17 |
| if-3-2.tcore1.MLV-Mumbai.as6453.net - 0 | 44 | 44 | 124 | 127 | 147 | 124 |
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PHP Code:|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| 94-100-29-121.static.swiftnoc.com - 0 | 18 | 18 | 0 | 10 | 160 | 0 |
| gige-g2-1.core1.ams1.he.net - 0 | 18 | 18 | 0 | 2 | 8 | 1 |
| 10gigabitethernet4-1.core1.nyc4.he.net - 0 | 18 | 18 | 86 | 90 | 97 | 88 |
| 10gigabitethernet5-3.core1.lax1.he.net - 0 | 18 | 18 | 148 | 151 | 159 | 153 |
| ge-2-3-0.bb1.a.lax.aarnet.net.au - 0 | 18 | 18 | 309 | 315 | 396 | 309 |
| so-4-0-0.bb1.b.syd.aarnet.net.au - 0 | 18 | 18 | 309 | 310 | 311 | 310 |
|bitethernet0.er4.csiro.cpe.aarnet.net.au - 0 | 18 | 18 | 309 | 319 | 457 | 309 |
| gw1.er4.csiro.cpe.aarnet.net.au - 0 | 18 | 18 | 310 | 311 | 319 | 311 |
| www.csiro.au - 0 | 18 | 18 | 310 | 310 | 312 | 310 |
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PHP Code:
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| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| 94-100-29-121.static.swiftnoc.com - 0 | 19 | 19 | 0 | 16 | 196 | 196 |
| fbra2-d.ams.nl.eu.swiftway.net - 7 | 16 | 15 | 0 | 2 | 21 | 1 |
|-0-1.1051.mpd21.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com - 0 | 20 | 20 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 1 |
|te0-1-0-2.ccr21.lpl01.atlas.cogentco.com - 0 | 20 | 20 | 10 | 11 | 16 | 11 |
|te0-2-0-4.ccr21.ymq02.atlas.cogentco.com - 0 | 19 | 19 | 81 | 81 | 83 | 82 |
|te0-0-0-7.mpd21.yyz02.atlas.cogentco.com - 0 | 19 | 19 | 101 | 101 | 103 | 103 |
|te0-2-0-6.mpd21.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com - 0 | 19 | 19 | 100 | 100 | 104 | 104 |
|te0-1-0-2.mpd21.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com - 0 | 19 | 19 | 112 | 112 | 114 | 112 |
|te0-3-0-3.mpd21.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com - 0 | 19 | 19 | 150 | 150 | 152 | 151 |
|te0-2-0-0.ccr22.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com - 0 | 19 | 19 | 150 | 150 | 151 | 150 |
| te4-2.ccr02.sjc04.atlas.cogentco.com - 0 | 19 | 19 | 150 | 151 | 152 | 152 |
| singtel.sjc04.atlas.cogentco.com - 0 | 19 | 19 | 158 | 165 | 227 | 158 |
| 203.208.171.153 - 0 | 19 | 19 | 158 | 161 | 189 | 158 |
| so-2-0-0-0.sngtp-cr1.ix.singtel.com - 0 | 19 | 19 | 158 | 217 | 343 | 158 |
| 203.208.153.161 - 0 | 19 | 19 | 332 | 340 | 352 | 345 |
| ae0-0.sngtp-cr1.ix.singtel.com - 0 | 19 | 19 | 329 | 342 | 382 | 338 |
| 203.208.153.66 - 0 | 19 | 19 | 330 | 344 | 411 | 352 |
| 202.157.128.5 - 0 | 19 | 19 | 339 | 347 | 384 | 350 |
| server01.apc.sg - 0 | 19 | 19 | 332 | 344 | 356 | 351 |
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I think you could almost describe OVH's behavior as scamming, giving completely different network quality to their speedtest server and customer servers.
Code:sv2:~# wget http://proof.ovh.net/100Mio.dat -O /dev/null --2011-05-14 20:01:36-- http://proof.ovh.net/100Mio.dat Resolving proof.ovh.net... 188.165.12.106, 2001:41d0:2:876a::1 Connecting to proof.ovh.net|188.165.12.106|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream] Saving to: `/dev/null' 100%[======================================>] 104,857,600 1.97M/s in 37s 2011-05-14 20:02:13 (2.72 MB/s) - `/dev/null' saved [104857600/104857600]
Code:sv2:~# wget http://netburst.co.uk/100Mio.zip -O /dev/null --2011-05-14 20:14:29-- http://netburst.co.uk/100Mio.zip Resolving netburst.co.uk... 188.165.193.84 Connecting to netburst.co.uk|188.165.193.84|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/x-zip-compressed] Saving to: `/dev/null' 9% [==> ] 10,311,649 385K/s eta 4m 18s
Code:[root@nlweb ~]# wget wget http://netburst.co.uk/100Mio.zip -O /dev/null --2011-05-14 18:16:47-- http://wget/ Resolving wget... failed: Name or service not known. wget: unable to resolve host address `wget' --2011-05-14 18:16:47-- http://netburst.co.uk/100Mio.zip Resolving netburst.co.uk... 188.165.193.84 Connecting to netburst.co.uk|188.165.193.84|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/x-zip-compressed] Saving to: `/dev/null' 100%[====================================================================>] 104,857,600 8.99M/s in 11s 2011-05-14 18:16:59 (9.04 MB/s) - `/dev/null' saved [104857600/104857600]
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I think you could almost describe OVH's behavior as scamming, giving completely different network quality to their speedtest server and customer servers.
Your Server is most likely on 100/1000Mbit - Theirs is on 10Gbit, which eliminates already Switch speed problems, yours is most likely loaded, theirs not due to the 10Gbit...
And so on.
They certainly wont tweak 50+ Backbone routers to get 10-20% better performance to some special IP.
Austria:
Code:X:~# wget http://proof.ovh.net/100Mio.dat -O /dev/null --2011-05-14 18:49:22-- http://proof.ovh.net/100Mio.dat Resolving proof.ovh.net... 2001:41d0:2:876a::1 Connecting to proof.ovh.net|2001:41d0:2:876a::1|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream] Saving to: `/dev/null' 100%[======================================>] 104,857,600 28.0M/s in 4.6s 2011-05-14 18:49:27 (21.7 MB/s) - `/dev/null' saved [104857600/104857600]
Code:X:~# wget ftp://ftp.ovh.net/test.bin --2011-05-14 18:50:17-- ftp://ftp.ovh.net/test.bin => `test.bin' Resolving ftp.ovh.net... 213.186.33.9 Connecting to ftp.ovh.net|213.186.33.9|:21... connected. Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in! ==> SYST ... done. ==> PWD ... done. ==> TYPE I ... done. ==> CWD not needed. ==> SIZE test.bin ... 104857600 ==> PASV ... done. ==> RETR test.bin ... done. Length: 104857600 (100M) 49% [==================> ] 52,038,680 1.04M/s eta 52s ^C
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