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05-08-2011, 12:56 AM #1Web Hosting Master
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How many of you use RAID version HDs in reality?
I am looking at WD RE4, yea it is designed for RAID, BUT in reality do you consider RAID version is necessary?
How many of you just use normal drives for RAID setup, let say adaptec 2405, and work just fine?
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05-08-2011, 01:02 AM #2Retired Moderator
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You want the enterprise versions such as RE4 for TLER support so drives don't just fall out of HW raid arrays.
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05-08-2011, 01:22 AM #3Web Hosting Master
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I see that quiet often many providers see normal HDs for RAID and want to ask how normal HDs work in practice on real expereinces
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05-08-2011, 01:30 AM #4Web Hosting Master
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We all live in reality here, and we use RE drives for our online, critical workloads because there are differences between them and the regular versions. Mostly it's just that TLER setting that WD won't let us manually change ourselves anymore. Once they stripped that away, you can't avoid paying the RE tax.
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05-08-2011, 01:19 PM #5Web Hosting Master
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We tried WD Blue drives for backup nodes, but still had a relatively higher failure rate. We are using only RE3s and RE4s now.
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05-08-2011, 01:29 PM #6Southern Yankee
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If using a RAID card, we only use WD RE or SAS drives
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05-08-2011, 01:44 PM #7Hello World
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05-08-2011, 01:45 PM #8Web Hosting Master
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over time I have found that the for raid 1
normal drives seem to work fine raid 5 or above enterprise class is they way to go
and savings you get by getting a cheaper drive are not worth it as they fail lot sooner
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05-08-2011, 02:48 PM #9Web Hosting Master
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05-08-2011, 05:49 PM #10Web Hosting Master
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We use only RE drives on SATA RAID setups.
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05-08-2011, 05:53 PM #11Web Hosting Master
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05-08-2011, 07:11 PM #12
If you are using hardware raid, I would recommend raid edition hdds.
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05-08-2011, 08:42 PM #13Junior Guru
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Obviously raid qualified hdds are the way to go with raid setups. I've been using WD Blacks on some setups without any issues at all.
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05-08-2011, 09:50 PM #14Web Hosting Master
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05-08-2011, 09:58 PM #15Hello World
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I just gave a Samsung 1TB disk with enclosure to my mother in replacement for her old IDE 40GB Backup drive, She was chuffed to bits how it had 1,000GB's (Of course not exactly 1,000GB)
She doesnt know am buying her an all singing all dancing NAS with RAID 1 for christmas
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05-08-2011, 10:16 PM #16Web Hosting Master
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for shared hosting server
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05-09-2011, 12:19 AM #17Web Hosting Evangelist
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WD RE for anything production, Samsung Spinpoint for backup servers.
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05-09-2011, 05:48 PM #18Web Hosting Guru
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that TLER enabled hard drives aren't very relevant in a software RAID array? I assume this is because the time alloted by the controller to let the hard drive(s) perform their error recoveries is significantly longer than the time alloted by a RAID card's controller?
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05-09-2011, 06:00 PM #19Retired Moderator
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05-09-2011, 06:07 PM #20Corporate Member
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Same, we only use RE3/RE4 enterprise drives in our hardware SATA arrays. By using the best hardware possible you can focus your time and energy on excellent customer service, rather than chasing around after hardware issues.
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05-10-2011, 04:57 AM #21Web Hosting Master
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05-16-2011, 09:19 PM #22Junior Guru Wannabe
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Anyone here have any experience using 2.5" Velociraptors in a R710 ? I'm leaning on buying our own sleds/velociraptor drives.
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05-16-2011, 09:36 PM #23Web Hosting Evangelist
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I'd go with SAS drives over the Velociraptors. Depending on capacity needed, the cost can be pretty similar. Maybe they are better now, but Raptors used to be pretty bad in terms of reliability.
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05-17-2011, 12:46 AM #25Web Hosting Evangelist
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Dell R710 should take SAS drives.
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