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05-06-2011, 02:34 PM #1Newbie
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Hosting VPN services on a VPS
Hello All,
this is my first post here on WHT and I welcome all feedback, help suggestions etc.
VPN Service
I'm looking to setup a VPN server (US IP address) and have multiple users connect to the server to stream content (hulu, netflix, youtube), surf the web etc.
User Base
Initially it will be a relative small user base (ie. just friends etc) lets say 10 using it 24/7. If there is enough interest, i would like to scale to support more users 50 - 100 or so.
Server Specs
As this is my first time owning / running a server i'm not too sure what kind of specs i need. From my research on lowendbox it seems like most vps offer about:
* 512 MB
* 10GB HD (seems like more than enough for a vpn server)
* 1TB BW (this will be what kills me.... as traffic in and out is counted)
* 10 - 100 mbps (shared across X nodes)
ranging in price from 3 - 10$ / month
Budget
I don't want to go over 10$ (6 - 7$ would be perfect) a month for now and i plan on considering a dedicated server later on. First i want to see this running and ppl on it before i invest more money.
I need help deciding the following:
* VPS Hosting Provider - (i'm guessing speed and bandwidth will be the biggest concerns)
* Operating System - (leaning towards ubuntu server 10.10 64bit because of large community and it's the latest version)
* VPN Software - (So far i only know of OpenVPN)
* Other considerations - anything else i should be considering
My objective is not to oversaturate the VPS but to provide rock solid vpn performance for users. I'm on a 10mbit connection myself and would love to have something that would allow a 3- 5 users to be on watching hulu / netflix simultaneously without experiencing hiccups. As i said before if interest is there ... i would scale and invite more users but quality of service is paramount.
Any advice would be appreciated!
Cheers,
SR.
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05-06-2011, 02:40 PM #2Web Hosting Master
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- why 64bit if you don't have >3.5g ram
- openvpn
- hulu will blacklist you for having like 10 viewers on one ip, won't they
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05-06-2011, 02:50 PM #3Newbie
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05-06-2011, 10:55 PM #4Junior Guru Wannabe
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Where are your users from? This should be the first question when it comes to VPN.
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05-08-2011, 05:26 PM #5Newbie
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05-08-2011, 10:38 PM #6Web Hosting Master
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Yeah, right, 1TB of transfer for 3$. Good luck with that...
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05-08-2011, 10:55 PM #7Web Hosting Guru
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64bit uses significantly more RAM on a small VPS (do to larger pointer and data sizes), so unless you have more than 2GB of RAM, running 64bit will just slow you down. When you're running at least 3GB of RAM is when you should consider switching to 64bit.
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05-09-2011, 01:02 AM #9Web Hosting Master
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05-09-2011, 11:13 PM #10Newbie
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Fair enough.... the 3$ is a stretch.
OS - > Still leaning towards 64bit..
Any suggestions in terms of hosting companies?
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05-09-2011, 11:19 PM #11Poooooonnyyy :*
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05-09-2011, 11:20 PM #12Newbie
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05-09-2011, 11:47 PM #13Newbie
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05-10-2011, 09:49 AM #15Disabled
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Make sure you do not use a VPS in Germany for Openvpn (VPN). The laws in Germany are the worst ever and the dead of your service.
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05-10-2011, 09:49 AM #16Web Hosting Master
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05-10-2011, 10:05 AM #17Disabled
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You do not have a second chance in Germany. They will shutdown you and sue you for your TOS/Privacy Terms (because they are not complete, wrong etc) and you are fully responsible for anything - nobody cares if you did it or a customer. I never heard of a such happening in the US.
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05-10-2011, 10:26 AM #18Newbie
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05-10-2011, 10:31 AM #19Newbie
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05-11-2011, 12:23 PM #21Newbie
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what do you mean about the tricks?
This is my VPS on germany, has been running for several months.
I bought it through my friends. All this time this time I used it to Rapidleech and torrent. And I ever asked, no problems if used for vpn.
Code:Welcome to Ubuntu! * Documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com/ You have new mail. Last login: Wed May 11 19:49:22 2011 from 125.160.106.230 root@vserver1:~# wget http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test --2011-05-11 20:20:49-- http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test Resolving cachefly.cachefly.net... 140.99.93.175, 140.99.93.175 Connecting to cachefly.cachefly.net|140.99.93.175|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream] Saving to: `100mb.test.3' 100%[======================================>] 104,857,600 22.6M/s in 5.7s 2011-05-11 20:20:55 (17.7 MB/s) - `100mb.test.3' saved [104857600/104857600] root@vserver1:~#
4 Core CPU Access
768/1536 MB RAM
Storage 90 GB
2TB/month
Network 100 mbps
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05-11-2011, 12:46 PM #22Web Hosting Master
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Well, a download from cachefly which you show like this doesn't in fact show anything. Cachefly is a CDN, so they well might have a node on the same data center. When showing a download like that, you should as well show a traceroute (and best would be to do it with MTR). Please do...
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05-11-2011, 07:11 PM #23Newbie
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Hmm, maybe cachefly not accurate to test network speed...
but I am quite satisfied with the vps that I bought, I also try to test directlink from microsoft site. I don't know if microsoft using CDN as well as cachefly, but I'm sure if my vps node different from the node that owned by microsoft.
From Micro$oft
Code:Welcome to Ubuntu! * Documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com/ You have new mail. Last login: Wed May 11 20:15:33 2011 from 125.160.106.230 root@vserver1:~# wget http://xpsp.dlservice.microsoft.com/download/d/3/0/d30e32d8-418a-469d-b600-f32ce3edf42d/WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86-ENU.exe --2011-05-12 03:07:38-- http://xpsp.dlservice.microsoft.com/download/d/3/0/d30e32d8-418a-469d-b600-f32ce3edf42d/WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86-ENU.exe Resolving xpsp.dlservice.microsoft.com... 92.123.69.27, 92.123.69.25 Connecting to xpsp.dlservice.microsoft.com|92.123.69.27|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 331805736 (316M) [application/octet-stream] Saving to: `WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86-ENU.exe' 100%[======================================>] 331,805,736 16.6M/s in 22s 2011-05-12 03:08:01 (14.2 MB/s) - `WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86-ENU.exe' saved [331805736/331805736] root@vserver1:~#
Code:root@vserver1:~# wget http://ubuntu.pesat.net.id/releases//natty/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso --2011-05-12 03:22:37-- http://ubuntu.pesat.net.id/releases//natty/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso Resolving ubuntu.pesat.net.id... 202.182.182.183 Connecting to ubuntu.pesat.net.id|202.182.182.183|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 718583808 (685M) [application/octet-stream] Saving to: `ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso' 100%[======================================>] 718,583,808 6.34M/s in 2m 27s 2011-05-12 03:25:05 (4.66 MB/s) - `ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso' saved [718583808/718583808]
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Oops sorry, I think micro$oft using CDN too.. (akamai), I'm update test with server Indonesia, my country...Last edited by venantius; 05-11-2011 at 07:26 PM.
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05-12-2011, 03:48 AM #24Web Hosting Master
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I say it again: don't provide just a wget, also provide the traceroute.
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05-12-2011, 04:39 AM #25Newbie
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ok, like this?
Code:root@vserver1:~# tracert cachefly.cachefly.net -bash: tracert: command not found root@vserver1:~# traceroute cachefly.cachefly.net traceroute to cachefly.cachefly.net (140.99.93.175), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 static.***.91.4.46.clients.your-server.de (46.4.91.***) 0.053 ms 0.020 ms 0.020 ms 2 213-239-224-193.clients.your-server.de (213.239.224.193) 0.169 ms 213-239-224-129.clients.your-server.de (213.239.224.129) 0.144 ms 0.178 ms 3 hos-bb1.juniper1.ffm.hetzner.de (213.239.240.224) 4.787 ms 4.810 ms 4.797 ms 4 r1fra1.core.init7.net (77.109.135.17) 12.144 ms 12.190 ms 12.240 ms 5 xe-7-2-0.fra20.ip4.tinet.net (77.67.76.237) 4.836 ms 4.871 ms 4.851 ms 6 xe-0-0-0.fra23.ip4.tinet.net (89.149.186.38) 30.729 ms xe-1-0-0.fra23.ip4.tinet.net (89.149.186.182) 4.971 ms xe-3-0-0.fra23.ip4.tinet.net (89.149.184.78) 4.950 ms 7 vip1.fra1.cachefly.net (140.99.93.175) 5.530 ms 5.523 ms 5.496 ms root@vserver1:~#
Code:root@vserver1:~# traceroute ubuntu.pesat.net.id traceroute to ubuntu.pesat.net.id (202.182.182.183), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 static.***.91.4.46.clients.your-server.de (46.4.91.***) 0.061 ms 0.028 ms 0.024 ms 2 213-239-224-129.clients.your-server.de (213.239.224.129) 0.146 ms 213-239-224-225.clients.your-server.de (213.239.224.225) 0.127 ms 213-239-224-129.clients.your-server.de (213.239.224.129) 0.138 ms 3 hos-bb1.juniper4.ffm.hetzner.de (213.239.240.230) 4.827 ms 4.830 ms 4.805 ms 4 amsix2-hetzner.aixit.net (83.141.1.57) 11.848 ms 11.901 ms 11.933 ms 5 TenGE13-2.br02.ams01.pccwbtn.net (195.69.145.37) 20.208 ms 20.564 ms 20.367 ms 6 bharti.pos11-0.cr02.sin02.pccwbtn.net (63.218.165.214) 295.490 ms 295.559 ms 295.557 ms 7 * * * 8 AES-Static-026.1.22.125.airtel.in (125.22.1.26) 370.133 ms 370.146 ms 370.122 ms 9 IP-112-238.MCS.napinfo.net (119.110.112.238) 393.348 ms 393.401 ms 393.450 ms 10 IP-121-70.MCS.napinfo.net (119.110.121.70) 395.253 ms 397.067 ms 397.048 ms 11 116.58.193.74 (116.58.193.74) 387.937 ms 385.930 ms 385.847 ms 12 ro-core-mk.eoip.pesat.net.id (202.95.128.25) 366.196 ms 366.180 ms 366.209 ms 13 fw-nat-mgk.pesat.net.id (202.95.128.3) 396.590 ms 396.292 ms 396.907 ms 14 * * * 15 * * * ....>>>> 30 * * * root@vserver1:~#
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